NXWM service changes 4th Sept

[Sh4318]

So the last couple of years their have not been a core certain routes that have received a least 2 min lots  of buses and make overs upgrades , whilst others still get nothing. I'm entitled to my view I know what I see and I've been around long enough to witness it.

Were the 44** Geminis not "made over" or the recent repainted ex CV Geminis?

[Squiz1971]

Last Year
Coventry 2/3 - never before
Walsall 335/6; 70 - last new B6s
several WN routes - never
71/72 - B7RLEs, but that doesn't count as buses in your area never get upgraded
243/244 - never
X51 - Timesaver Metros
9 - 8 years previous E400s
50 - 9 years previous

Shouldn't that be E200MMC's not B7RLE's as they were 12 plates?? @Tony

[2206]

Shouldn't that be E200MMC's not B7RLE's as they were 12 plates?? @Tony

No before the E200 MMC the last new buses were the B7RLE's.

Were the 44** Geminis not "made over" or the recent repainted ex CV Geminis?

Yes but the 94 as well as the 65 and 67 still regularly get 42** B7TL ALX400 some of which have never been internally refurbished.

[Squiz1971]

No before the E200 MMC the last new buses were the B7RLE's.

Ah right I see what Tony is getting at now cheers @2206

[monkeyjoe]

O here we go 71/72 is not in my ex area. My opinion won't change, sorry lol.

[Kevin]

.... My opinion won't change, sorry lol.

We noticed

[Tony]

O here we go 71/72 is not in my ex area. My opinion won't change, sorry lol.

The 72 cannot be far away if you are always moaning about the 94, the 72 is never more than 1/2 mile away from it

[monkeyjoe]

I'm not saying the areas not had any, my local routes were 70/94 and could inc 28 which was impressed had a upgrade which I noticed when back in Brum. However compared to when I was living in Brum distribution of resource then and still seems to be evident winds me up. That is my view. Anyway off to the gym now. Loads of new buses in Ealing lol.

[winston]

I'm not saying the areas not had any, my local routes were 70/94 and could inc 28 which was impressed had a upgrade which I noticed when back in Brum. However compared to when I was living in Brum distribution of resource then and still seems to be evident winds me up. That is my view. Anyway off to the gym now. Loads of new buses in Ealing lol.

Is the 94 your local route, never would have guessed..... You've got new buses on the 94, they're supplied by Claribels and you still don't use them.

[monkeyjoe]

I did used to use them before Uber came out. I love Claribels just wish they would extend their network, there could be more operators like them and Dragons Den could fund more enterprises like them.

Granted took them long enough.

[winston]

I did used to use them before Uber came out. I love Claribels just wish they would extend their network, there could be more operators like them and Dragons Den could fund more enterprises like them.

Granted took them long enough.

Operators like Claribels & Central Buses are few & far between in the current climate.... Claribels have come a long way from the days of using Coaches to compete of the 55 & 94 against WMT

[Stu]

Everyone forgets the 11A/C Outer Circle; upgraded circa 2004 from Metrobuses with brand new Wright Geminis and given Showcase route status, then circa 2012 was 'upgraded' with refurbished Presidents bought in 1999/2000.

Why does no-one moan about the 11?  ;D

[winston]

Everyone forgets the 11A/C Outer Circle; upgraded circa 2004 from Metrobuses with brand new Wright Geminis and given Showcase route status, then circa 2012 was 'upgraded' with refurbished Presidents bought in 1999/2000.

Why does no-one moan about the 11?  ;D

The big problem with upgrading the Outer Circle with a new fleet , is its high pvr

[Tony]

The big problem with upgrading the Outer Circle with a new fleet , is its high pvr

And it avoids all the areas currently putting emission restrictions on!

[winston]

And it avoids all the areas currently putting emission restrictions on!

Exactly, things like that must be a juggling act with such a high concentration of Euro 3 deckers still on fleet