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Repaints & Retrims 2016

Started by Tony, January 07, 2016, 10:34:18 AM

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DavieDD2

Dundee repaints in slow motion I see, how long will we be stuck on 26? the Lamp Posts arrived in XD green, as did the B7RLE's from Walsall, 7001 is in a sponsored livery, the only repaints Dundee has seen (never mind refurbs) are 4076, 7002-7006, I empathise with our Coventry cousins, out of sight... (at least they had their own colours from TWM days...)

GeminiFan1991

Quote from: DavieDD2 on May 17, 2016, 08:23:52 PM
Dundee repaints in slow motion I see, how long will we be stuck on 26? the Lamp Posts arrived in XD green, as did the B7RLE's from Walsall, 7001 is in a sponsored livery, the only repaints Dundee has seen (never mind refurbs) are 4076, 7002-7006, I empathise with our Coventry cousins, out of sight... (at least they had their own colours from TWM days...)

You have to take into account the size of the respective fleets into account. Walsall have to deal with 9 other garages (As well as their own) for repaints and a bus total over 1'600 whereas Dundee is comparatively much smaller. The paint shops reflect this.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/128406405@N06/

DavieDD2

Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on May 17, 2016, 09:13:48 PM
You have to take into account the size of the respective fleets into account. Walsall have to deal with 9 other garages (As well as their own) for repaints and a bus total over 1'600 whereas Dundee is comparatively much smaller. The paint shops reflect this.

Dundee's repaints are done independently from the rest of the NX fleet, (not at Walsall) I wasn't having a go at our Brum masters, more the lack of inactivity from our own minions here in Dundee, the purse strings are inevitably being pulled from down there, there may be other reasons, I don't know, without information I can only speculate... :)

GeminiFan1991

Quote from: DavieDD2 on May 17, 2016, 09:36:16 PM
Dundee's repaints are done independently from the rest of the NX fleet, (not at Walsall) I wasn't having a go at our Brum masters, more the lack of inactivity from our own minions here in Dundee, the purse strings are inevitably being pulled from down there, there may be other reasons, I don't know, without information I can only speculate... :)

I know their done independently (Imagine the dead mileage if their weren't !). I was trying to say, the size of the paint shop at Dundee reflects its fleet size, Walsall has considerably more vehicles to deal with hence why more buses come out.

Do Dundee do a vehicle at a time ?
Please check out my Bus Photos @

https://www.flickr.com/photos/128406405@N06/

DavieDD2

As far as I'm aware. (and I'll gladly be corrected on this), Dundee send their buses through to Motherwell for repaints, they're not done in house.

winston

Quote from: DavieDD2 on May 17, 2016, 09:36:16 PM
Dundee's repaints are done independently from the rest of the NX fleet, (not at Walsall) I wasn't having a go at our Brum masters, more the lack of inactivity from our own minions here in Dundee, the purse strings are inevitably being pulled from down there, there may be other reasons, I don't know, without information I can only speculate... :)

I'd highly doubt the lack of repaints in Dundee is down to a 'tightening of the purse strings', NX aren't exactly shy at present in investing in the fleet. And before you say it, yes Birmingham is taking priority, largely down to the SQPS rules within Birmingham City Centre and new emission rulings due to come on stream from may 2017.

I believe only Dundee's double deckers are painted by an external sub contractor, the two native single deckers 2057/8 were repainted at Dock St in-house by hand

DavieDD2

You're right Winston, 2057/8 were repainted here in Dundee and look what happened, we got 1 with painted window surrounds and 1 left with black surrounds, 4076 appears to have a lighter shade of the lighter green than the repainted Geminis, not looking good so far... :)

winston

Quote from: DavieDD2 on May 17, 2016, 10:29:50 PM
You're right Winston, 2057/8 were repainted here in Dundee and look what happened, we got 1 with painted window surrounds and 1 left with black surrounds, 4076 appears to have a lighter shade of the lighter green than the repainted Geminis, not looking good so far... :)

Exactly, all the fingers point towards Dundee rather than Birmingham. 4076 should have exactly the same shade of light green as per 1774-1786 also painted as WA. I actually prefer the black window surrounds being retained.

DavieDD2

I agree with you Winston, the black window surrounds offset the green nicely and look so much better, let's hope th powers that be an XD read this forum, sadly, I doubt it :(

Tony

Vehicles painted since last update
1937; 1898; 1760

Vehicles currently in paint

AG-      4653
BC      4474,4621,4457; 4443
PB       7019,  4851, 4843, 4852
WB      1945, 1939; 1953
YW      1902; 1906; 1928
PN       4434
WA      1751 


Vehicles painted at Walsall in 2016 so far
1408; 1452
1750; 1752; 1757; 1760; 1763
1898; 1907; 1926
1936; 1937; 1941; 1942; 1943; 1944; 1946; 1947; 1948; 1950; 1952
4076; 4105; 4164; 4369
4439; 4447; 4449; 4455; 4458; 4460; 4461; 4463; 4464; 4465; 4467, 4468
4524, 4525, 4526; 4528; 4532
4631
4638; 4640; 4641; 4642; 4646; 4647; 4648; 4650, 4654; 4655; 4656
4818; 4819; 4821; 4824; 4825; 4827; 4828
4844; 4848; 4849; 4854; 4855
4871; 4872
7020; 7021, 7022; 7025; 7027; 7028; 7029; 7030; 7031; 7032; 7033

Buses in service in new livery
Crimson
WA 1750/2/7/60/3 (5)
PB 1863-1877 (15)
YW 1898 (1)
PB 1905 (1)
YW 1907/26 (2)
WB 1936-8/41-4/6-52 (14)
AG 2201-50 (50)
PN 3301 (1)
PN 4439 (1)
BC 4447/9/55/8/60-8 (13)
AG 4524-34 (11)
BC 4631 (1)
AG 4635/6/8-50/52/4/5-7/9 (21)
WB 4738-62 (25)
PB 4799-815/7-29 (30)
PB 4844/8/9/54/5 (5)
BC 4871/2 (2)
PN 6101-22 (22)
YW 6123-48 (26)
PB 7020-33 (14)

Total 260

Blue
CV 4763-75 (13)

Total 13


Platinum
BC 6701-18 (18)
WA 6719-58 (40)

Total 58

Green
431-5 (5)
1774-86 (13)
2057/8 (2)
4076 (1)
7002-6 (5)

Total 26

Westy


Tony

Quote from: Westy on May 24, 2016, 01:04:02 PM
Thought 1751 had gone in?

Which is why it is listed in the 'vehicles in paint' section

Liverpool Street

#282
@Tony

BC buses in service in crimson list isn't updated to show 4631/4871/72 etc

Tell a lie I just noticed the way you've written it in fleet number order and not garage by garage
Quote from: 2900
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
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until it cought fire

Squiz1971

Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2016, 02:35:29 PM
@Tony

BC buses in service in crimson list isn't updated to show 4631/4871/72 etc
Yes it does @ Liverpool Street you just need to look carefully down the list 4631 is between the 2 sets of AG Gemini's & 4871/2 are above PN E400MMC's

Liverpool Street

Quote from: Squiz1971 on May 24, 2016, 02:40:16 PM
Yes it does @ Liverpool Street you just need to look carefully down the list 4631 is between the 2 sets of AG Gemini's & 4871/2 are above PN E400MMC's

Yeah thanks I just noticed

Must be my age

Sorry fella.
Quote from: 2900
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
Quote from: karl724223
until it cought fire

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