Chiltern Railways

[T840MAK]

TP DMU's 170301-303/305/309 are at Brush Loughborough at the moment being made suitable for use by Chiltern. They are being made compatible with Chiltern's Class 168's and will probably renumbered as 168/3's.

170301 170302 170304 170305 170309 are at Loughborough with 170303 170306 170307 170308 are still in regular use at TransPennine Express and are due to move at a later date, probably the December service changes, or whenever they can get any more extra capacity to cover for the loss of these units.

[broma1k]

Stock changes in Septembers Railway Magazine show 170305/309 renumbered as 168325/329

[T840MAK]

First one released from works at Brush is 168329 ex 170309 **NOT MY PHOTO**

https://www.flickr.com/photos/84539378@N07/20461216042/in/photolist-xb65EW-6HBVqS-pPV85z-mP1zUX-mP1Rzc-qWqnrh-qKwQ4Q-9fkugq-98SimV-jaCTnV-sK1MH-96hEP7-9i8KdW-jzYiZQ-mgoqoE-9J6r9P-9pjzBH-9osTvL-9osTuG-9osTtG-9osTsJ-9osTro-9nUBFZ-9jmtds-9epNP4-9eiwir-9bpRb2-uNss4N-o7sDam-gsRybL-dn4uFT-bWtgxg-8xEVdT-fjVkA1-cp1nL3-cp1nGQ-cnxmEy-c6ZQfC-bzRuPY-bvSpqU-bvwSHJ-bxdgZc-bxcTGp-brCGyr-aYhkUX-ajbuJN-9TS8NK-9MxrAG-9DCJQv-9zyDNh

[Bryan]

Stock changes in Septembers Railway Magazine show 170305/309 renumbered as 168325/329

Does anyone know why the change of Class number?

[Sh4318]

Does anyone know why the change of Class number?

They've had their couplers modified to be compatible with the rest of their fleet

[T840MAK]

168329 has now been delivered to Chiltern on 5Z59 from Loughborough.

[Bryan]

They've had their couplers modified to be compatible with the rest of their fleet

Thanks for that, the reason for the Class 170 to 168 change had me baffled. Having said that I'm not very knowledgeable about the railways.

[Stuharris 6360]

Would like to have seen Chiltern invest in some more loco hauled stock, some services really need it!

[Tony]

Would like to have seen Chiltern invest in some more loco hauled stock, some services really need it!

Much that I like the loco hauled stock as well they actually need the DMUs more, as all vehicles have seats in where two are wasted in the loco hauled sets

[Liberator9]

Yeah the DMUs are needed more - they provide that useful bit of extra capacity. Found one of the problems of the Loco sets at times is that there can be seating issues. Came back from London a few months ago and they had to move standing standard class passengers into the 2+1 config Business Zone seating area. Might not have been such an issue with a DMU.

[Bryan]

An interesting poster at Moor Street station warning of delays of up to three minutes due to leaf fall.

http://www.ipernity.com/doc/bryan_a_smith/39598444

[tank90]

An interesting poster at Moor Street station warning of delays of up to three minutes due to leaf fall.

http://www.ipernity.com/doc/bryan_a_smith/39598444

That is because the 68s are better at accelerating than the 67s but they are running to 67s timings.

[T840MAK]

That is because the 68s are better at accelerating than the 67s but they are running to 67s timings.

I'm not sure that has anything to do with it. Surely if 68s are better accelerating than 67s but still running in 67 timings then they'd be early?

The poster is warning pax that delays are inevitable when the leaves start falling off trees leaving residue on the line making the tracks slippier. Not a single thing to do with 67s or 68s or the like.

[tank90]

I'm not sure that has anything to do with it. Surely if 68s are better accelerating than 67s but still running in 67 timings then they'd be early?

The poster is warning pax that delays are inevitable when the leaves start falling off trees leaving residue on the line making the tracks slippier. Not a single thing to do with 67s or 68s or the like.

They haven't yet changed the timings and yes the 68s are early and can wait longer at stations or not travel as fast . As the 68s can run at least 2 minutes faster than the 67s it gives DB Arriva Chiltern 5 mins to play with the falling wrong leaves on the line. CR have no plans as yet to retime routes until the evergreen project has been completed in full, by this point all 67s will have left CR lease (CR as being part of DB Arriva have access to DBS locos for back up). Rail and The Railway Magazine have covered this several times.  CR have stated in publications that the time saved can be used to make sure they run on time, every time.

[T840MAK]

They haven't yet changed the timings and yes the 68s are early and can wait longer at stations or not travel as fast . As the 68s can run at least 2 minutes faster than the 67s it gives DB Arriva Chiltern 5 mins to play with the falling wrong leaves on the line. CR have no plans as yet to retime routes until the evergreen project has been completed in full, by this point all 67s will have left CR lease (CR as being part of DB Arriva have access to DBS locos for back up). Rail and The Railway Magazine have covered this several times.  CR have stated in publications that the time saved can be used to make sure they run on time, every time.

I still don't think it has a single thing to do with the 68s, they can do it quicker, cool, that means that the delay that they're building up because of the leaves on the line is less, I believe the poster is on about all services not just LHCS.