Hansons

[the trainbasher]

004 timetable on network West Midlands only going to harts green wherever that is

Here - https://goo.gl/maps/wp5ZFZ8hSNH2

[Trident 4194]

Here - https://goo.gl/maps/wp5ZFZ8hSNH2

Not a bad idea of a route. PVR will be 3 I assume. Leaving diamond alone on the harborne section..

[the trainbasher]

Not a bad idea of a route. PVR will be 3 I assume. Leaving diamond alone on the harborne section..

Route it will take to Welsh House Farm I think - https://goo.gl/maps/a53nn2ewnF52

Looking at it, during the day it will need 3 buses, but peaks will need 4 buses...

[the trainbasher]

Route the 228 will take to the Hospital...

https://goo.gl/maps/LMxvaPaesvF2

[2206]

004 timetable on network West Midlands only going to harts green wherever that is

Only a couple of Monday to Friday peak journeys will go to Harborne.
All other journeys will be rerouted to terminate at Welsh Farm House.

[sonic84]

Not a bad idea of a route. PVR will be 3 I assume. Leaving diamond alone on the harborne section..

I agree this does look like the route it will need to take. Will provide a new link for the Welsh House Farm area. Nice to see Hansons trying to keep this route going with the competition for Diamond and ofcourse the new opportunities with the 99 being withdrawn.

Only thing I would say is hope the destinations will be programmed to make it clear which journeys are terminating at the Swimming Baths and the one which continues to the Green Man.

[winston]

I agree this does look like the route it will need to take. Will provide a new link for the Welsh House Farm area. Nice to see Hansons trying to keep this route going with the competition for Diamond and ofcourse the new opportunities with the 99 being withdrawn.

Only thing I would say is hope the destinations will be programmed to make it clear which journeys are terminating at the Swimming Baths and the one which continues to the Green Man.

The competition from Diamond only came when Hanson's chose to cut the frequency of the 004 in half, Hanson's created the opportunity for Diamond expand.

[Mike K]

What route will it be taking? I can't work it out from the link posted or from the NWWM site. Capern Grove, despite what it says on the NWWM site, is not in the 'Harts Green' area of Harborne (which is where I live). It's definitely Welsh House Farm.

Seems a strange move. I'd hoped it would serve the High St / Green Man throughout the day but be amended to serve Welsh House Farm.

Much as it's pleasing to see the frequency increased back to half hourly I can't see this working. In fact, the timetable is a masterpiece in the art of confusion. Journeys either start from or finish at Harborne Green Man (one journey a day?), Greenfield Road, the swimming baths, or Welsh House Farm. The one that finishes at Greenfield Road takes 5 minutes to get from Serpentine Road. Given that this is only one stop, I can only imagine that this is some sort of world's strongest man competition where competitors pull the bus on a rope for the final stage of the journey. A 90 year old could walk that distance in under 5 minutes.

[the trainbasher]

I can only imagine that this is some sort of world's strongest man competition where competitors pull the bus on a rope for the final stage of the journey.

It will be and you can watch it in full HD on ESPN 8-The Ocho

[Stuharris 6360]

Quite surprised the 004 isn't going to Harborne during the day, from what I have seen that end of the route was quite popular??

[Kevin]

Quite surprised the 004 isn't going to Harborne during the day, from what I have seen that end of the route was quite popular??

Yes that does seem rather strange. Isn't really going to help the people of Welsh House Farm out either, if the bus doesn't quite make it to Harborne high street

[Trident 4194]

Quite surprised the 004 isn't going to Harborne during the day, from what I have seen that end of the route was quite popular??

The initial plan of competing with the 99/244 was a good idea due to the reduced fequency, however with it only going between Welsh house farm and Halesowen the majority of the day, I can't see it having good loadings. Also suspect many will get confused by the many destinations available.

[winston]

The initial plan of competing with the 99/244 was a good idea due to the reduced fequency, however with it only going between Welsh house farm and Halesowen the majority of the day, I can't see it having good loadings. Also suspect many will get confused by the many destinations available.

I personally think they should have extended it beyond Harborne to QE to fill the gap left by the NX frequency reduction over that section.

[Stuharris 6360]

I personally think they should have extended it beyond Harborne to QE to fill the gap left by the NX frequency reduction over that section.

Maybe even extended to Birmingham City Centre to cover the loss of the 99?

[Trident 4194]

Maybe even extended to Birmingham City Centre to cover the loss of the 99?

The routes broke remember 😜. if hansons could create a proper timetable unlike nx then yes the extension could easily work