Hansons

[Stuharris 6360]

If you look at it, the only reason that Hansons tried the X26 is because they lost the tender for the 124 and they then had 2 buses which needed to be used.

Making the 004 half hourly to me makes more sense. I have seen numerous 004s lately and the loading on them has been good.

It is not often that Hansons take up a route & it fails, but the X26 is a case of this (the X96 was always going to win in this battle).

I often wonder if there is a case for a direct service from Merry Hill to Russells Hall Hospital, probably sounds daft, but i think quite a few people park at Merry Hill and catch the bus to Russells Hall because of the parking situation, limited spaces & high costs.  The 222 & 297 are fairly long winded to the Hospital, especially when you have a road that runs by the Merry Hill which takes you directly to RHH.

[PM]

If you look at it, the only reason that Hansons tried the X26 is because they lost the tender for the 124 and they then had 2 buses which needed to be used.

Making the 004 half hourly to me makes more sense. I have seen numerous 004s lately and the loading on them has been good.

It is not often that Hansons take up a route & it fails, but the X26 is a case of this (the X96 was always going to win in this battle).

I often wonder if there is a case for a direct service from Merry Hill to Russells Hall Hospital, probably sounds daft, but i think quite a few people park at Merry Hill and catch the bus to Russells Hall because of the parking situation, limited spaces & high costs.  The 222 & 297 are fairly long winded to the Hospital, especially when you have a road that runs by the Merry Hill which takes you directly to RHH.

The 310 is pretty fast between Dudley and Merry Hill and goes via the hospital-Merry Hill to RHH is 14 minutes which is pretty quick. Unfortunately for Arriva, there seems to be little awareness about the 310 which is a shame as they seem to have tried hard on the route with nice refurbished buses. When I have been in Dudley, people without travelcards wanting to go to Merry Hill have totally ignored the 310-bigger route branding needed!

[Stuharris 6360]

If you look at it, the only reason that Hansons tried the X26 is because they lost the tender for the 124 and they then had 2 buses which needed to be used.

Making the 004 half hourly to me makes more sense. I have seen numerous 004s lately and the loading on them has been good.

It is not often that Hansons take up a route & it fails, but the X26 is a case of this (the X96 was always going to win in this battle).

I often wonder if there is a case for a direct service from Merry Hill to Russells Hall Hospital, probably sounds daft, but i think quite a few people park at Merry Hill and catch the bus to Russells Hall because of the parking situation, limited spaces & high costs.  The 222 & 297 are fairly long winded to the Hospital, especially when you have a road that runs by the Merry Hill which takes you directly to RHH.

The 310 is pretty fast between Dudley and Merry Hill and goes via the hospital-Merry Hill to RHH is 14 minutes which is pretty quick. Unfortunately for Arriva, there seems to be little awareness about the 310 which is a shame as they seem to have tried hard on the route with nice refurbished buses. When I have been in Dudley, people without travelcards wanting to go to Merry Hill have totally ignored the 310-bigger route branding needed!

You see, i think that is part of the problem, i had forgotten that the 310 existed and everytime i have seen it in the past, the buses have been empty.

[PM]

If you look at it, the only reason that Hansons tried the X26 is because they lost the tender for the 124 and they then had 2 buses which needed to be used.

Making the 004 half hourly to me makes more sense. I have seen numerous 004s lately and the loading on them has been good.

It is not often that Hansons take up a route & it fails, but the X26 is a case of this (the X96 was always going to win in this battle).

I often wonder if there is a case for a direct service from Merry Hill to Russells Hall Hospital, probably sounds daft, but i think quite a few people park at Merry Hill and catch the bus to Russells Hall because of the parking situation, limited spaces & high costs.  The 222 & 297 are fairly long winded to the Hospital, especially when you have a road that runs by the Merry Hill which takes you directly to RHH.

The 310 is pretty fast between Dudley and Merry Hill and goes via the hospital-Merry Hill to RHH is 14 minutes which is pretty quick. Unfortunately for Arriva, there seems to be little awareness about the 310 which is a shame as they seem to have tried hard on the route with nice refurbished buses. When I have been in Dudley, people without travelcards wanting to go to Merry Hill have totally ignored the 310-bigger route branding needed!

You see, i think that is part of the problem, i had forgotten that the 310 existed and everytime i have seen it in the past, the buses have been empty.

Yep, mostly empty when I've used it unfortunately. Nice fast route though...

[Jay]

The X26 is going in june (not paying) then the 2 extra buses is going on the 004 to make it 30 min's service

That sounds like a good move, passenger numbers seem to be building up steadily

Ture i know that the x26 is only make around £300 per week (all 4 buses)

004 around £150 to £200 per day per bus
226 around £200 per day per bus

it make alot off sence

The 004 was never as busy as the 002 when operated by Ludlows, but it carried decent loads which a smaller operator should be able to make money from. Maybe Hanson's could look at extending it the Harborne to the QE & Selly Oak? It would offer some new links

i can see you point winston but i can see hansons will extend to the QE

[Jay]

If you look at it, the only reason that Hansons tried the X26 is because they lost the tender for the 124 and they then had 2 buses which needed to be used.

Making the 004 half hourly to me makes more sense. I have seen numerous 004s lately and the loading on them has been good.

It is not often that Hansons take up a route & it fails, but the X26 is a case of this (the X96 was always going to win in this battle).

I often wonder if there is a case for a direct service from Merry Hill to Russells Hall Hospital, probably sounds daft, but i think quite a few people park at Merry Hill and catch the bus to Russells Hall because of the parking situation, limited spaces & high costs.  The 222 & 297 are fairly long winded to the Hospital, especially when you have a road that runs by the Merry Hill which takes you directly to RHH.

The 310 is pretty fast between Dudley and Merry Hill and goes via the hospital-Merry Hill to RHH is 14 minutes which is pretty quick. Unfortunately for Arriva, there seems to be little awareness about the 310 which is a shame as they seem to have tried hard on the route with nice refurbished buses. When I have been in Dudley, people without travelcards wanting to go to Merry Hill have totally ignored the 310-bigger route branding needed!

You see, i think that is part of the problem, i had forgotten that the 310 existed and everytime i have seen it in the past, the buses have been empty.

Yep, mostly empty when I've used it unfortunately. Nice fast route though...

with the 310 it fill's that bit 311 and 313 has left from dudley to RHH

[Sayeed]

The 004 was never as busy as the 002 when operated by Ludlows, but it carried decent loads which a smaller operator should be able to make money from. Maybe Hanson's could look at extending it the Harborne to the QE & Selly Oak? It would offer some new links

i can see you point winston but i can see hansons will extend to the QE

If that happens, I hope it uses the 48 route. That part it is so busy at peaks time that 48 used to get rammed on weekdays when they used the Mercs and skips the stops with plenty of passengers.

[the trainbasher]

The 004 was never as busy as the 002 when operated by Ludlows, but it carried decent loads which a smaller operator should be able to make money from. Maybe Hanson's could look at extending it the Harborne to the QE & Selly Oak? It would offer some new links

i can see you point winston but i can see hansons will extend to the QE

If that happens, I hope it uses the 48 route. That part it is so busy at peaks time that 48 used to get rammed on weekdays when they used the Mercs and skips the stops with plenty of passengers.

I know from quite a few drivers that it's been suggested a few times for a QE extension. Via the 99 route it roughly takes 5 mins each way to the hospital and the 48 it takes 7 each way so could actually be done.

[winston]

PD0001124/22 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Stourbridge Bus Station given service number 251 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0001124/34 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Merry Hill and Harbourne given service number 004 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Timetable.

[nitromatt1]

PD0001124/22 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Stourbridge Bus Station given service number 251 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0001124/34 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Merry Hill and Harbourne given service number 004 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Timetable.

That'll probably be what Jon was describing above. In response to the 22 perhaps (matching their Merry Hill - Harborne frequency)?

[winston]

PD0001124/22 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Stourbridge Bus Station given service number 251 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0001124/34 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Merry Hill and Harbourne given service number 004 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Timetable.

That'll probably be what Jon was describing above. In response to the 22 perhaps (matching their Merry Hill - Harborne frequency)?

The 004 frequency increase is due to Hanson's withdrawing the X26 & redeploying the buses elsewhere

[nifty50]

PD0001124/22 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Stourbridge Bus Station given service number 251 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0001124/34 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Merry Hill and Harbourne given service number 004 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Timetable.

That'll probably be what Jon was describing above. In response to the 22 perhaps (matching their Merry Hill - Harborne frequency)?

I'm sure also those empty 22s are giving them sleepless nights....

I think they are enhancing because withdrawing off X26?

[nitromatt1]

PD0001124/22 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Stourbridge Bus Station given service number 251 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0001124/34 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Merry Hill and Harbourne given service number 004 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Timetable.

That'll probably be what Jon was describing above. In response to the 22 perhaps (matching their Merry Hill - Harborne frequency)?

I'm sure also those empty 22s are giving them sleepless nights....

I think they are enhancing because withdrawing off X26?

Yes, but the 22 (which is not empty) may have influenced their decision about where to utilise the resources freed up by the withdrawal of the X26

[Jay]

PD0001124/22 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Stourbridge Bus Station given service number 251 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0001124/34 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Merry Hill and Harbourne given service number 004 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Timetable.

That'll probably be what Jon was describing above. In response to the 22 perhaps (matching their Merry Hill - Harborne frequency)?

The 004 frequency increase is due to Hanson's withdrawing the X26 & redeploying the buses elsewhere

You both right and on the 22 if i am wright its ever hour mon to fri day time and more peak time ( i could be wrong)

[nitromatt1]

PD0001124/22 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Stourbridge Bus Station given service number 251 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0001124/34 - HANSONS (WORDSLEY) LTD, 60A HAYES LANE, STOURBRIDGE, DY9 8RD
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Merry Hill and Harbourne given service number 004 effective from 09-Jun-2014. To amend Timetable.

That'll probably be what Jon was describing above. In response to the 22 perhaps (matching their Merry Hill - Harborne frequency)?

The 004 frequency increase is due to Hanson's withdrawing the X26 & redeploying the buses elsewhere

You both right and on the 22 if i am wright its ever hour mon to fri day time and more peak time ( i could be wrong)

Half hourly during the day and more frequent at peaks mate.