New Deliveries / New Livery & Branding Discussion

[Stu]

Which is the same comment on put under the photo on Facebook

I don't see your photos on Facebook!

[Tony]

I don't see your photos on Facebook!

It wasn't my photo, but I bet it's the same one the original questioner saw to ask the already answered question.

[WA4317]

6874/6888 both debranded

[Mike K]

6874/6888 both debranded

The beginning of the end of route branding at BC. I know I'm in a minority here but that's a shame in my view. I like route branding and when used on the correct routes (I know at BC thats's gone out of the window) it does give a sense of identity. It will be a pity when the rest of the 68/19 batch have their branding removed and all semblance of colour will have been banished from the fleet for good.

[Lukeee]

The beginning of the end of route branding at BC. I know I'm in a minority here but that's a shame in my view. I like route branding and when used on the correct routes (I know at BC thats's gone out of the window) it does give a sense of identity. It will be a pity when the rest of the 68/19 batch have their branding removed and all semblance of colour will have been banished from the fleet for good.

Agreed was always a fan of route branding, particularly the style used on the 9/16/50 platinums, adds a much needed splash of colour 

[Appleby]

How come some of the sn67wx and sn67wy fleet are de branded.
I even saw sn67wxl get recovered without any branding 

[jasmine]

How come some of the sn67wx and sn67wy fleet are de branded.
I even saw sn67wxl get recovered without any branding

I think branding is being phased out in general

[JosephR]

With the X21/22, 23/24 brands' being the only branded buses at BC aswell as a common occurrence on the X12/13 and 97/A it makes sense. 
 
Factoring in BC is planned to close. With both an east and south replacement garage, bound to be electric ready. The X21 etc brand vehicles may not even go to either of these garages for long, if at all. 

[Mike K]

With the X21/22, 23/24 brands' being the only branded buses at BC aswell as a common occurrence on the X12/13 and 97/A it makes sense.
 
Factoring in BC is planned to close. With both an east and south replacement garage, bound to be electric ready. The X21 etc brand vehicles may not even go to either of these garages for long, if at all.

New garages are a fair way off so I doubt the removal of branding has anything to do with that. The bottom line is that these buses are used on any route nowadays so there's little point in keeping them branded in that case. 

[Stu]

How come some of the sn67wx and sn67wy fleet are de branded.
I even saw sn67wxl get recovered without any branding

One logical reason is so they can be used on any other route. I recall one reason given for the X1/X2 branding being removed was because those vehicles were racking up a lot of mileage compared to others of the same age. By rotating the fleet like this, it keeps things 'balanced'.

I guess you can't keep everyone happy - there are those that complain when branded vehicles appear on other routes, then others complain when the branding gets removed so they can go on other routes!

With the X21/22, 23/24 brands' being the only branded buses at BC aswell as a common occurrence on the X12/13 and 97/A it makes sense.
 
Factoring in BC is planned to close. With both an east and south replacement garage, bound to be electric ready. The X21 etc brand vehicles may not even go to either of these garages for long, if at all.

I still think any replacement of BC garage is another couple of years off, and if they are both electric-ready, it takes time to get new buses ordered and built.

[cardew]

I still think any replacement of BC garage is another couple of years off, and if they are both electric-ready, it takes time to get new buses ordered and built.

Last week WMCA approved their proposed depot ownership strategy, regardless of whether franchising happens or not. This suggests the onus will be on them to provide the BC replacement(s)

[JosephR]

I did notice recently that the 9 branded vehicles have their internal branding removed. So I understand an effort is being made to rid branding entirely/ everywhere.

Most of the older vehicles that are branded are going through the repaint process. And the newer platinum' brands leave no residue behind as we can see from 16 examples. I doubt halfway through next year route branding will exist at all.

[MasterPlan]

The beginning of the end of route branding at BC. I know I'm in a minority here but that's a shame in my view. I like route branding and when used on the correct routes (I know at BC thats's gone out of the window) it does give a sense of identity. It will be a pity when the rest of the 68/19 batch have their branding removed and all semblance of colour will have been banished from the fleet for good.

Yeah, I've always liked the extra colour it adds to the livery but I can see the point behind removing it operationally. 

[Appleby]

One logical reason is so they can be used on any other route. I recall one reason given for the X1/X2 branding being removed was because those vehicles were racking up a lot of mileage compared to others of the same age. By rotating the fleet like this, it keeps things 'balanced'.

I guess you can't keep everyone happy - there are those that complain when branded vehicles appear on other routes, then others complain when the branding gets removed so they can go on other routes!

I still think any replacement of BC garage is another couple of years off, and if they are both electric-ready, it takes time to get new buses ordered and built.

I thought it was the end of branding but enough said keeping the entire platinum fleet balanced seems a great idea more like a free for all.

[Ingleboro261F]

Most of the older vehicles that are branded are going through the repaint process. And the newer platinum' brands leave no residue behind as we can see from 16 examples. I doubt halfway through next year route branding will exist at all.

Not seen any 35 route branding been thought of yet and the buses used on that are over 17 years old, might be the next ones that will be debranded maybe?