New Deliveries / New Livery & Branding Discussion

[winston]

AG got 6701 - 6710 for the X1, 6951 - 6954, 7539 - 7541 (16)
my point being 17 out of the entire new bus in take

You're conveniently forgetting that AG now have the entire batch of 15 plate Crimson E400MMC's 6101-6136 & 6138-6148 (47) + they initially had the entire batch of 50 x 15 plate E200MMC's from new & still have 2201-2231 (31) even now.

[Tony]

AG got 6701 - 6711 for the X1, 6951 - 6954, 7539 - 7541 (17)
my point being 17 out of the entire new bus in take

WB 6955 - 6959, 6965 - 6994 (33)
so out of the entire in take 50 new vehicles whereas take PB, YW, BC, WA have the lions share, im not offering any other opinions except this is clearly un-balanced i have left CV as that is a different case, as they are required to be all electric

Why are you only mentioning Double Decks? Which Lion's share have Walsall had new?

When a garage gets a large batch on new buses (AG got 50 new buses in 2015/6 which was over 1/3 of the entire garage allocation is it no wonder that other garages get deliveries in the next few years?

[Ronnoc]

I believe the Wright Electroliner is 14ft 6 inches, meaning NX may opt for the ADL electrics if AG were to get new buses some time soon. I believe the new ADL electric can fit under the Robin Hood bridge.

[2206]

I believe the Wright Electroliner is 14ft 6 inches, meaning NX may opt for the ADL electrics if AG were to get new buses some time soon. I believe the new ADL electric can fit under the Robin Hood bridge.

More electric buses coming in 2024... and fewer single decks – West Midlands Bus Users (wmbu.org.uk)
If AG and WN did get wright electroliners. Could we see the 5 move to YW to use the ADL electrics. Save having 2 types at 1 garage.

[Tony]

The current average age order of the garages youngest to oldest is

CV, BC, PN, WA, WN, AG, PB, WB, YW

so not really a surprise that PB & YW are two of the garage expecting new buses

[Stu]

Why wouldn't they be able to? How are they any different to any other double decker that gets put on that route without any issues

The bridge has a height restriction, so it depends on the vehicle height as to whether it can be used on that route.

As Tony pointed out elsewhere, both the E400MMC and E400EV are 14ft 2in high, so are fine for that bridge. Anything higher than 14ft 2in can't be used.

[monkeyjoe]

I wonder if the 94/95 will now eventually get new buses after over 20 years now the bus lane is coming? Probably not being at bc ha ha. 

[JosephR]

I'm curious, what will route branding look like on the new livery. I reckon exactly like the 59 branding on WN tridents.

Though there probably won't be any, but I'm still curious.

[BBS]

I'm sure the 5 always use to have Geminis back before the south Birmingham change happened? What way did the 5 take before the changes?

[MW]

I'm sure the 5 always use to have Geminis back before the south Birmingham change happened? What way did the 5 take before the changes?

Low bridge on Robin Hood Lane (A4040). The route is the same, however the signage was changed. It is now an offence to drive under that bridge unless you're 14ft3 or less. Geminis are 14ft5, although they do physically fit under that bridge. Plaxton Presidents (14ft6?) were also used on the 5, until it was realised that they were getting damaged under that bridge.

E400MMC are 14ft2, so they are legal to pass under the bridge.

[tufwum]

Does it still show both the triangle and circle signs, as it did for 6 years?!

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.428915,-1.8551417,3a,75y,97.86h,91.06t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2cRtazfqtKlgoNp3WG9PnQ!2e0!5s20220801T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Someone local needs to check and report it:

https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/20110/report_road_and_pavement_issues/720/report_a_traffic_light_sign_or_signal_fault

[Sh4318]

I'm sure the 5 always use to have Geminis back before the south Birmingham change happened? What way did the 5 take before the changes?

Before the bridge restrictions they did, with the restrictions in place, the 5 was allocated ALX400s, then platinums and standard spec E400MMCs

[JosephR]

Will there be any new deliveries re plated to **24 *** or will they be licensed and rushed into service for the 24th? 

[RW]

I'm still hoping that NXWM will confirm that they will be ordering other models of ev's than the ADL/BYD for future delivery. Apart from placing all their eggs in one basket Tony will need to rename his site 'West Midlands Bus in 2 Photographs'! A double deck, currently, and at some point in time add a single deck ev.

[BK63 YWP]

Will there be any new deliveries re plated to **24 *** or will they be licensed and rushed into service for the 24th?

24 plates begin on 1st March so plenty of time for the 73 batch to appear, they could all be licensed before then and still appear with 73 plates after the 1st March. Like the streetdecks did in 2021 registered as 21 plates started service in late 2021