New Deliveries / New Livery & Branding Discussion

[Jack]

I've heard Perry Barr are having 22 new platinum buses any truth in this?

I've heard that as well, they'll probably skip out routes in dire need of an upgrade, 65/67, 94 and probably go to something like the 7 or 16, not like they've not had an upgrade...

[Tony]

I've heard that as well, they'll probably skip out routes in dire need of an upgrade, 65/67, 94 and probably go to something like the 7 or 16, not like they've not had an upgrade...

So when did the 7 or 16 last have new buses?

[Jack6101]

Looks like some of the yw e400mmc have got new red price branding and it's looking very nice

[Jack]

So when did the 7 or 16 last have new buses?

Never said 'new' buses I clearly stated 'upgrade'. They were upgraded several years ago now and quite frankly they don't deserve all high spec buses, the 7 doesn't anyway, more people at Perry Common would use the 65 to City being the faster route, not the 7 which goes through traffic hotspots, so unless they are trying to win people off the 65 to go onto the 7 then I don't get what NX are trying to achieve.

[Tony]

Never said 'new' buses I clearly stated 'upgrade'. They were upgraded several years ago now and quite frankly they don't deserve all high spec buses, the 7 doesn't anyway, more people at Perry Common would use the 65 to City being the faster route, not the 7 which goes through traffic hotspots, so unless they are trying to win people off the 65 to go onto the 7 then I don't get what NX are trying to achieve.

a) I haven't said either route is getting an upgrade
b) If you know so much about what 'people want' why aren't you working in a marketing department

[Steve3229vp]

I've been interested in buses for over 45 years now and it's only been recent years that I've seen this obsession term "upgrade" as if a bus route needs it or should have it. It's always nice to have a platinum with USB and WiFi or an Enviro and as many may know how i detest the Scania Omnicities but at the end of the day a bus to work or shopping or home is just a bus. I remember fleetlines and metrobuses being delivered in the late 70's and early 80's and they just appeared on any bus routes, there was no route "upgrade", it's nonsense!

[Tony]

I've been interested in buses for over 45 years now and it's only been recent years that I've seen this obsession term "upgrade" as if a bus route needs it or should have it. It's always nice to have a platinum with USB and WiFi or an Enviro and as many may know how i detest the Scania Omnicities but at the end of the day a bus to work or shopping or home is just a bus. I remember fleetlines and metrobuses being delivered in the late 70's and early 80's and they just appeared on any bus routes, there was no route "upgrade", it's nonsense!

So the fact the Dundee 22 has got a 10% growth in passengers just by 'upgrading' it is rubbish?

Same applys to WM routes

[Steve3229vp]

So the fact the Dundee 22 has got a 10% growth in passengers just by 'upgrading' it is rubbish?

Same applys to WM routes

Don't miss understand me Tony and the growth on some routes has been impressive especially the X51, you are right but i just don't get comments about certain bus route are due and upgrade.

[DavieDD2]

So the fact the Dundee 22 has got a 10% growth in passengers just by 'upgrading' it is rubbish?

Same applys to WM routes

It's a shame the 22 seems to be the only route getting an upgrade in Dundee, it's the first since the 5 got 9 hybrids 6 years ago and that was only because a government grant paid for some of them. There was a load of blurb about how 6687-70 were going to clean up the air in the city yet they're on a route that only uses one of Scotland's most polluted roads, the 28/29 uses two of them yet nothing but cascades. With so many ageing Geminis in Dundee it's going to be interesting to see what replaces those, I doubt it'll be shiny new MMC's.

[Stuharris 6360]

@Tony would there be any plans for single deck Platinums, although I suppose the single deck fleet is quite modern?

Could get rid of those horrid Scanias I suppose.

[Tony]

It's a shame the 22 seems to be the only route getting an upgrade in Dundee, it's the first since the 5 got 9 hybrids 6 years ago and that was only because a government grant paid for some of them. There was a load of blurb about how 6687-70 were going to clean up the air in the city yet they're on a route that only uses one of Scotland's most polluted roads, the 28/29 uses two of them yet nothing but cascades. With so many ageing Geminis in Dundee it's going to be interesting to see what replaces those, I doubt it'll be shiny new MMC's.

Watch this space!

[Gareth]

So when did the 7 or 16 last have new buses?

Has the 7 ever had a batch of buses specifically for it? I can't think of any.

[B.C Driver]

Never said 'new' buses I clearly stated 'upgrade'. They were upgraded several years ago now and quite frankly they don't deserve all high spec buses, the 7 doesn't anyway, more people at Perry Common would use the 65 to City being the faster route, not the 7 which goes through traffic hotspots, so unless they are trying to win people off the 65 to go onto the 7 then I don't get what NX are trying to achieve.

What traffic hotspots?

The only ones I can think of are the end of Summer Lane from city and coming out of city by Snow Hill.
There's nowhere near as much traffic hotspots compared to the Bristol Rd for example.

[busboy31]

So when did the 7 or 16 last have new buses?

They brought the E400s from Pensnett and they weren't even new.

[Jack]

What traffic hotspots?

The only ones I can think of are the end of Summer Lane from city and coming out of city by Snow Hill.
There's nowhere near as much traffic hotspots compared to the Bristol Rd for example.

Summer Lane and Witton Road (Villa playing makes it worse).