New Deliveries / New Livery & Branding Discussion

[DavieDD2]

Cannot reuse fleetnumbers

Aren't the Metrobus numbers being reused by the B7RLE's? If numbers can't be reused with the current system it's only going to be a matter of a few years before the system is out of available numbers.

[DJ]

No
There are ideas, but which will be actioned has not been decided.

Several options include 3401 upwards; 6151 upwards; 7501 upwards or even something completely different

Could introducing letters be an option, similar to how some London companies do it?

[WMT3000]

Could introducing letters be an option, similar to how some London companies do it?

Or 5 digits?

[Westy]

Aren't the Metrobus numbers being reused by the B7RLE's? If numbers can't be reused with the current system it's only going to be a matter of a few years before the system is out of available numbers.

Perhaps numbers can be reused after so many years only?

Good example - Ex Bristol VR 4714(the one painted in South Staffs livery & owned locally by Aston Manor!) & Gemini 4714!

[filbus1]

Just leap over the present numbers, 7201

[DavieDD2]

Just leap over the present numbers, 7201

You would need to go higher, some Optare Excels and Solos were 72xx in Dundee

[DJ]

Or 5 digits?

That could work, Diamond only had 3 digits originally and they added 20 to the front I think. You'd probably have to make the E200s 10xxx though so that they dont clash with the old 4 digit numbers.

[Tony]

Perhaps numbers can be reused after so many years only?

Good example - Ex Bristol VR 4714(the one painted in South Staffs livery & owned locally by Aston Manor!) & Gemini 4714!

No numbers can be reused on the current system which dates back to around 2000, so some Metrobuses/Scanias are still on there hence why the StreetDecks started at 3301. 73xx were the Wisharts Coaches and 74xx are still in use see main fleetlist.

I do actually know what I am doing when I allocated the numbers!

[DavieDD2]

@Tony,  You have the advantage of knowing how the system works, we enthusiasts can only guess.

[paulb1973]

If it were to happen - 5-digit fleet numbers on NX buses is going to look a bit weird! History has seen WMPTE use letters in the past. Presumably 3401-3999 are 'free' although recent arrival 3997 probably means ending at 3996. Weren't 3601-14 used a few years back so that complicates that slightly. 6033-6100 and 6149-6686 are spare along with 7501 onwards, so there are lots of numbers still free seemingly.

[Westy]

No numbers can be reused on the current system which dates back to around 2000, so some Metrobuses/Scanias are still on there hence why the StreetDecks started at 3301. 73xx were the Wisharts Coaches and 74xx are still in use see main fleetlist.

I do actually know what I am doing when I allocated the numbers!

Nobody said you didn't Tony!

We're all just trying to work out how you do it!

[paulb1973]

I have a WMT fleetlist from c.2000 showing many of the newly-absorbed Your Bus fleet numbered into the 5xxx series - does that mean the early five-thousand fleet number series can't be used now?

[Tony]

I have a WMT fleetlist from c.2000 showing many of the newly-absorbed Your Bus fleet numbered into the 5xxx series - does that mean the early five-thousand fleet number series can't be used now?

That's why the Hybrids are 54xx and  55xxp

[paulb1973]

That's why the Hybrids are 54xx and  55xxp

Ah right, that has rendered 5001-5400 unusable then. This 'can't re-use numbers' must be a pain as whole blocks have to be left out! The highest numbered 5xxx (in this fleet list) is 5201 a DAF/Ikarus, N23 FWU, new in 1995. I don't know if there were any higher numbered ones.

[DavieDD2]

Ah right, that has rendered 5001-5400 unusable then. This 'can't re-use numbers' must be a pain as whole blocks have to be left out! The highest numbered 5xxx (in this fleet list) is 5201 a DAF/Ikarus, N23 FWU, new in 1995. I don't know if there were any higher numbered ones.

N23 FWU was sent up to Dundee and used as our training bus for years, it was also renumbered 7419.