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If you had the chance to modify or add any service, what would you do?

Started by Alex, November 15, 2014, 06:30:12 PM

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Ingleboro261F

Quote from: BBS on Yesterday at 03:30:08 PMReturn of the 31 ( Solihull to Birmingham via shaftmoor lane ), however renumbered as the 4A, or keeping the 31. Timetable will be half hourly, possibly interwork with the 5
Why would they renumber it to the 4A if the 4A is already in use

Steve3229vp

Quote from: Ingleboro261F on Yesterday at 03:43:51 PMWhy would they renumber it to the 4A if the 4A is already in use
Also the 4A is far better than the 31

BlackCountryBusSpotter

The X529 could maybe work if you ran it via the Black Country Route up to the Keyway then down Rose Hill to serve Willenhall and only ran at Morning and Evening Peaks maybe Monday - Friday every 15-20 minutes. However NX Tried it it didn't work. Maybe a reintroduced 40 could bolster the Walsall to Wolverhampton Via Bentley and Willenhall Service or a variation of the 37 that then turns down Churchill Road to rejoin the 529 route. 
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

Westy

Surely there's no point in looking at the Walsall to Wolves & Walsall to Darlo corridor until you see how the train affects things?

Wumpty

Quote from: Budgie on Yesterday at 10:55:38 AMWas it that the 966 didn't work or a change in strategy?  There seemed to be a move away from express, long distance services at one point (certainly around Walsall) to bolster shorter stopping services. For example, Walsall to Aldridge leg went from 20 mins 367, 368 (368 hourly, 367 20-40) to 15 minutes 367/368 (each 30 mins) both with 30 mins limited stop 966 to then eventually straight 10 mins stopping 366,367,368 (later 6, 7, 7a).

This with cut backs and withdrawals of other limited stop services. The 51 bolstered to every 6 minutes at one stage if I remember rightly with the 951 (X51) cut to half hourly. Very different now. The 997 was cut to 20 minutes from Aldridge to Birmingham with a 355 A/C for the Walsall, Rushall, Aldridge section etc

The 529 had Gas Powered singles I think at a high frequency.  So maybe not a failing service, rather a different strategic approach? And of course, a train service from Walsall to Wolves operated I believe by a NX franchise.
Quote from: Westy on January 29, 2025, 08:27:11 PMThat's because it used the Black Country Route instead!

Would've got a few more passengers with Wumpty's suggestion!


There were huge reliability issues with the Wolves - Walsall section. It was only given 23 minutes to get from Wolves to Walsall (I used to catch the 0823hrs service from Walsall to Aldridge in 1987 to get to school, so shows how long ago it was!), and given that it was such a long route, you'd have bottle necks along the stretch from Airport to Wolves.

The 0823hrs was regularly 10-15 mins late, so curtailing the 966 at Walsall made sense.

Equally, there was a shift change in the early mid 90s when Timesaver was debranded and became just limited stop services, still using DP Metrobuses, though repainted into the standard livery.

I loved the concept of a "direct" service from Walsall to Airport, though being such a long route, it was always going to fall foul of the traffic.

Quote from: Tony on January 29, 2025, 08:58:07 PMThe 966 did exactly that from 1986 and that didn't work either
Was it reliability, low patronage or just a saturated route that saw it not work, though in fairness that was almost 40 years ago since that stretch ran, and appreciate X529 was trialled since.
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