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If you had the chance to modify or add any service, what would you do?

Started by Alex, November 15, 2014, 06:30:12 PM

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Tony

Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on November 29, 2023, 02:58:58 PMWhich is great and all if you live in Bentley and Willenhall, but if you live in Moxley, Darlaston or Wednesbury you have nothing to get you to the Manor the 37 is every hour to Willenhall and you could connect with the 529 there so you have nothing serving the Darlaston Wednesbury area to the Manor after 8PM or on Sundays. Even an extension of the 37 to The Manor as the 34 has never served it could work as a lot of the folks in Moxley or Herberts Park could get the 79 to Darlaston or Wednesbury if one ran that way to connect to the 37 or a Wednesbury bus via the Manor
You could say the same about Beechdale, Bloxwich or any other without a direct link. The fact is it was withdrawn due to extremely low usage 

BlackCountryBusSpotter

Quote from: Tony on November 29, 2023, 04:17:42 PMYou could say the same about Beechdale, Bloxwich or any other without a direct link. The fact is it was withdrawn due to extremely low usage
True didn't Bloxwhich used to have a direct service to the Manor years ago. Is low usage why the 39 stopped running after 7 as it used to run fairly late but stopped running after 7 after it was rerouted to replace the 38 maybe the 37 introduction initially played a part and then with NX Operating the evening service did the 39 evening services sort of become not needed. Although I did never understand why The 37 ran of an Evening before NX entered there was a never a bus that ran through Darlaston and Bentley after 6 and Lodge Farm had the 40 and 41. Sad to hear there is no demand I remember the 38 always letting of a lot people outside the Manor 
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

Westy

Wasn't the bus from Bloxwich basically the one interworking with the old 351?

I havent studied the 34/37/39 corridor timetable for sometime, but doesnt the 39 serve the Manor Hospital as well?

Surprised there's no way of rerouting the 39 further into Alumwell, to serve that missing section?

(In fact didnt the old 639 do this?)

the trainbasher

QuoteWasn't the bus from Bloxwich basically the one interworking with the old 351?

I havent studied the 34/37/39 corridor timetable for sometime, but doesnt the 39 serve the Manor Hospital as well?

Surprised there's no way of rerouting the 39 further into Alumwell, to serve that missing section?

(In fact didnt the old 639 do this?)
Yep, the 639 did. And yes, the 350 (former 999) was joined with the 351


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Quote from: Westy on November 29, 2023, 04:58:02 PMWasn't the bus from Bloxwich basically the one interworking with the old 351?

I havent studied the 34/37/39 corridor timetable for sometime, but doesnt the 39 serve the Manor Hospital as well?

Surprised there's no way of rerouting the 39 further into Alumwell, to serve that missing section?

(In fact didnt the old 639 do this?)doe
39 does serve the Manor as replacement for the old 38 which was replaced to the Manor by the 39 and down Darlaston Road by the 75 for all of two weeks. The 39 also replaced the 34 into Stowlawn but the Manor Hospital isn't served after 7PM and not on Sundays not sure what time the last 38 was but it ran eairler than the 39 I was told to take Nurses and Workers to the Manor as there was then an hour gap between I think the 38 at half four in the morning and the first of the 34 and 39 buses. There is also gaps around Darlaston on the 39 service the 39 goes down Wolverhampton Street onto Stafford Road before going into Darlaston, there are still bus stops around Herberts Park along Hewitt Street, Wiley Aveune and Park Lane by the Junction Pub. The 30 I think used to go down last year and the 639 years before that, possibly the 339 at one point but now nothing serves it.
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

SuperSonic07

For me, i would introduce a new bus service from six ways aston - bearwood, following the old 61 (when it went to bearwood) and 68A/C bus routes, it would serve the following roads.

Victoria Road, Vicarage Road, Sycamore Road, Witton Lane, Witton Road, The Broadway, Davey Road, Aston Lane, Perry Barr One Stop, Wellington Road, Grosevnor Road, Westminster Road, Putney Road, Hutton Road, Church Vale, Church Hill Road, Hamstead Road, Holly Road, Grove Lane, Dawson Road, Limwood Road, Albert Road, Rockery Road, Holyhead Road, Crockets Road, Booth Street, Rabone Lane, B4136, Soho Way, Windmill Lane, Cape Hill, Waterloo Road, Bearwood Road, Anderson Road, Herbert Road & Bearwood Interchange
Local Routes: 5, 16, 28, 51, 52, 61, X51
Localish Routes: 11A, 11C, 16A, 25, 33, 54, 54A, 907, 934, 935, 936, 937, 937A, 997

Jack

Quote from: SuperSonic07 on December 13, 2023, 07:27:46 PMFor me, i would introduce a new bus service from six ways aston - bearwood, following the old 61 (when it went to bearwood) and 68A/C bus routes, it would serve the following roads.

Victoria Road, Vicarage Road, Sycamore Road, Witton Lane, Witton Road, The Broadway, Davey Road, Aston Lane, Perry Barr One Stop, Wellington Road, Grosevnor Road, Westminster Road, Putney Road, Hutton Road, Church Vale, Church Hill Road, Hamstead Road, Holly Road, Grove Lane, Dawson Road, Limwood Road, Albert Road, Rockery Road, Holyhead Road, Crockets Road, Booth Street, Rabone Lane, B4136, Soho Way, Windmill Lane, Cape Hill, Waterloo Road, Bearwood Road, Anderson Road, Herbert Road & Bearwood Interchange
Are you trying to re-introduce the old 123?


No way would that work now!

Trident4590

Since the council have gonna gone on a bulldozer rage on car parks to build more apartments I'd ban cars from coming into the city centre and make a shuttle service from just outsider the borders of the a4540 and make it every 10 mins or so, this could be an alternative to the tram which is always rammed 

TheMidlandsTrident

Make a new X1a service which is a super fast route from birmingham to coventry that bypasses all the stops as if it were a coach. 

Run it every 20 minutes at the 10 minutes that the X1 doesnt run e.g

X1, 11:10
X1a, 11:20 
X1, 11:30
and so on.

This would also help with the problem of having standees every journey pretty much.

Run the X1a from BC and have them share running the X1/X1a
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3. KX55 TLY
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Local Routes: 28, 247
Fav Routes Further Away: 15, X19, 57/58, X18, X20

spacecowboy150

Quote from: TheMidlandsTrident on December 27, 2023, 06:33:43 PMMake a new X1a service which is a super fast route from birmingham to coventry that bypasses all the stops as if it were a coach.

Run it every 20 minutes at the 10 minutes that the X1 doesnt run e.g

X1, 11:10
X1a, 11:20
X1, 11:30
and so on.

This would also help with the problem of having standees every journey pretty much.

Run the X1a from BC and have them share running the X1/X1a
I suggested that before lol

Tony

Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 27, 2023, 09:49:58 PMI suggested that before lol
Quote from: TheMidlandsTrident on December 27, 2023, 06:33:43 PMMake a new X1a service which is a super fast route from birmingham to coventry that bypasses all the stops as if it were a coach.

Run it every 20 minutes at the 10 minutes that the X1 doesnt run e.g

X1, 11:10
X1a, 11:20
X1, 11:30
and so on.

This would also help with the problem of having standees every journey pretty much.

Run the X1a from BC and have them share running the X1/X1a
As all services in Coventry have to be electric and BC has no, and won't be getting any charging facilities I think you can rule that out 

Justin Tyme

Quote from: TheMidlandsTrident on December 27, 2023, 06:33:43 PMMake a new X1a service which is a super fast route from birmingham to coventry that bypasses all the stops as if it were a coach.

Run it every 20 minutes at the 10 minutes that the X1 doesnt run e.g

X1, 11:10
X1a, 11:20
X1, 11:30
and so on.

This would also help with the problem of having standees every journey pretty much.


I can understand this, but would a non-stop service would it meet its costs?  If the fare cap didn't exist, £2.70 for 20 miles would be a bargain.

My guess is that improving the X1 frequency is a more viable option for NXWM.  The X1 has alot of intermediate traffic which I expect makes a big difference to the bottom line.

Lukeee

Quote from: Justin Tyme on December 27, 2023, 10:28:53 PMI can understand this, but would a non-stop service would it meet its costs?  If the fare cap didn't exist, £2.70 for 20 miles would be a bargain.

My guess is that improving the X1 frequency is a more viable option for NXWM.  The X1 has alot of intermediate traffic which I expect makes a big difference to the bottom line.

This makes more sense, for instance the X1 picks up good loads at the airport 

Stu

Quote from: TheMidlandsTrident on December 27, 2023, 06:33:43 PMMake a new X1a service which is a super fast route from birmingham to coventry that bypasses all the stops as if it were a coach. 

Run it every 20 minutes at the 10 minutes that the X1 doesnt run e.g

This would also help with the problem of having standees every journey pretty much.
You'd have no standees because there'd be hardly any passengers.
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TheMidlandsTrident

QuoteI suggested that before lol
My bad lol, im relatively new to this forum.
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