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Started by JoNi, October 09, 2014, 09:52:06 PM

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Tony

Quote from: Winston on November 14, 2014, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: arrifirststage on November 14, 2014, 08:59:38 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 14, 2014, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: arrifirststage on November 14, 2014, 08:02:33 PM
Certainly doesn't impress me.......dark,gloomy and depressing,marginally better than Diamond Bus old funeral hearse livery.........but no other obvious advantages.

Funeral hearse? ...Black Diamond?

Yes,that's the one.....was arguably the worst livery ever..............although this platinum runs it close.
Why can we not have something bright and cheerful,this platinum has about as much chance of attracting passengers as Wolves have of winning the Champions League.

How many brightly coloured limo's and executive cars do you see on the roads? you don't, because more luxurious vehicles are normally dark colours, it's more sophisticated.

There seems to be a lot of budding Ray Stennings on here

winston

Quote from: Tony on November 14, 2014, 09:20:21 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 14, 2014, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: arrifirststage on November 14, 2014, 08:59:38 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 14, 2014, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: arrifirststage on November 14, 2014, 08:02:33 PM
Certainly doesn't impress me.......dark,gloomy and depressing,marginally better than Diamond Bus old funeral hearse livery.........but no other obvious advantages.

Funeral hearse? ...Black Diamond?

Yes,that's the one.....was arguably the worst livery ever..............although this platinum runs it close.
Why can we not have something bright and cheerful,this platinum has about as much chance of attracting passengers as Wolves have of winning the Champions League.

How many brightly coloured limo's and executive cars do you see on the roads? you don't, because more luxurious vehicles are normally dark colours, it's more sophisticated.

There seems to be a lot of budding Ray Stennings on here

But even Ray Stenning doesn't win every job....

domino.99

TBH I don't see why everyone is slagging it off. I like it! It gives off the idea 'platinum' should, a slick and swarve livery with a nice tone in colour.

Liverpool Street

Quote from: monkeyjoe on November 14, 2014, 08:15:54 PM
Also read in yesterdays evening mail as part of the this Platinum/Birmingham connected scheme, they are planning a bus route to do the A4540 inner ring road, I bet their will be long queues at Brum central garage to drive that route, lol.

Hahahahahaha!!!! Imagine the delays!!! And need a quick bus for those islands ;-)
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Driver03

Quote from: NXDom on November 14, 2014, 10:04:55 PM
TBH I don't see why everyone is slagging it off. I like it! It gives off the idea 'platinum' should, a slick and swarve livery with a nice tone in colour.
I agree, I like it very much!

It's sophisticated and not childish like some other examples of "premium" routes!

There is an old saying.... You'll never please everyone... and that's the case here.

If NXWM hadn't done a "platinum" livery, everybody would of been saying that they aren't trying, they release a new livery and upgrade major routes into "platinum" routes, probably won't charge people any extra to travel on them (unlike some others) and still people moan, quite frankly it's unbelievable!

Just my two pence worth.

domino.99

Quote from: Driver03 on November 15, 2014, 11:25:45 AM
Quote from: NXDom on November 14, 2014, 10:04:55 PM
TBH I don't see why everyone is slagging it off. I like it! It gives off the idea 'platinum' should, a slick and swarve livery with a nice tone in colour.
I agree, I like it very much!

It's sophisticated and not childish like some other examples of "premium" routes!

There is an old saying.... You'll never please everyone... and that's the case here.

If NXWM hadn't done a "platinum" livery, everybody would of been saying that they aren't trying, they release a new livery and upgrade major routes into "platinum" routes, probably won't charge people any extra to travel on them (unlike some others) and still people moan, quite frankly it's unbelievable!

Just my two pence worth.

Exactly, it looks professional, which a name like platinum should produce.

JoNi

Whatever the bus looks like it's the all round service that matters.
Will the bus shelters be upgraded to be more like tramstops illuminated at all times and be kept immaculate after all they are 24 hour a day advert for the service, special stop signs?
Will platinum be well marketed, timetables available even at Bus stops,
If a platinum bus isn't available and a normal bus is substituted will customers get a free day ticket.
All these things happen elsewhere!
Platinum could be the start of a customer lead culture, but that requires a change in vision, cultures and communication.


Liberator9

The bus shelters are already being replaced across the region, with the new silver design - with lighting fitted. I'm yet to come across a bus stop in the whole region without a timetable - I've been to other areas of the country where the timetables are either too confusing, give no approximate journey times or not even there. I'm sure NX will try and avoid substituting a bus whenever possible - but I am sure customers would rather have a normal NX bus turn up rather than none at all - hardly worth a free day ticket if there is an occasional problem which means that a normal NX bus is needed - as long as it turns up on time. I don't think Arriva provide a free day ticket when a Sapphire bus fails to be run.

Tony

Quote from: Liberator9 on November 15, 2014, 03:13:10 PM
I don't think Arriva provide a free day ticket when a Sapphire bus fails to be run.

They daren't in Derby at the moment. The PVR is one less than the current fleet! When the Wright Streetdeck enters service this will be fixed but still need every bus to be fit every Monday to Friday

don

Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2014, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 15, 2014, 03:13:10 PM
I don't think Arriva provide a free day ticket when a Sapphire bus fails to be run.

They daren't in Derby at the moment. The PVR is one less than the current fleet! When the Wright Streetdeck enters service this will be fixed but still need every bus to be fit every Monday to Friday

Crikey - that's sailing close to the wind!! I guess they could drive some up the road from Burton or Leicester if really neccessary.

On the platinum branded bus, I thought it looked rather good. My one concern is the size and contrast of colour of the fonts. It looks too small to me. Having driven down the M40 last week and seen the Oxford Tube coaches - these are instantly recognisable - and memorable even from driving a car - if I was thinking of travelling from Oxford to Central London I would definitely have that in my mind as a possibility. Would I with the platinum branding - well I would have to stand and read it to take it in based on current fonts.

On the standard NX bus livery I've never understood why the standard NX colours aren't used on the logo. Those E400s in Glasgow looked superb to my mind with the red and blue logo. This would add a touch of blue to each vehicle and most importantly, set LS's mind at rest concerning the need for blue on Birmingham's buses (albeit not of the dark or Oxford variety)!!! Serious point though - the logo and its colours are all important as part of NX's brand.
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Liverpool Street

Quote from: don on November 16, 2014, 12:17:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2014, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 15, 2014, 03:13:10 PM
I don't think Arriva provide a free day ticket when a Sapphire bus fails to be run.

They daren't in Derby at the moment. The PVR is one less than the current fleet! When the Wright Streetdeck enters service this will be fixed but still need every bus to be fit every Monday to Friday

Crikey - that's sailing close to the wind!! I guess they could drive some up the road from Burton or Leicester if really neccessary.

On the platinum branded bus, I thought it looked rather good. My one concern is the size and contrast of colour of the fonts. It looks too small to me. Having driven down the M40 last week and seen the Oxford Tube coaches - these are instantly recognisable - and memorable even from driving a car - if I was thinking of travelling from Oxford to Central London I would definitely have that in my mind as a possibility. Would I with the platinum branding - well I would have to stand and read it to take it in based on current fonts.

On the standard NX bus livery I've never understood why the standard NX colours aren't used on the logo. Those E400s in Glasgow looked superb to my mind with the red and blue logo. This would add a touch of blue to each vehicle and most importantly, set LS's mind at rest concerning the need for blue on Birmingham's buses (albeit not of the dark or Oxford variety)!!! Serious point though - the logo and its colours are all important as part of NX's brand.

I agree; Although I'd prefer rather then red and white it should be blue and white. Always need a bit of blue: although I fear that's a thing of the past.
Quote from: 2900
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
Quote from: karl724223
until it cought fire

don

Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 16, 2014, 12:21:59 PM
Quote from: don on November 16, 2014, 12:17:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2014, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 15, 2014, 03:13:10 PM
I don't think Arriva provide a free day ticket when a Sapphire bus fails to be run.

They daren't in Derby at the moment. The PVR is one less than the current fleet! When the Wright Streetdeck enters service this will be fixed but still need every bus to be fit every Monday to Friday

Crikey - that's sailing close to the wind!! I guess they could drive some up the road from Burton or Leicester if really neccessary.

On the platinum branded bus, I thought it looked rather good. My one concern is the size and contrast of colour of the fonts. It looks too small to me. Having driven down the M40 last week and seen the Oxford Tube coaches - these are instantly recognisable - and memorable even from driving a car - if I was thinking of travelling from Oxford to Central London I would definitely have that in my mind as a possibility. Would I with the platinum branding - well I would have to stand and read it to take it in based on current fonts.

On the standard NX bus livery I've never understood why the standard NX colours aren't used on the logo. Those E400s in Glasgow looked superb to my mind with the red and blue logo. This would add a touch of blue to each vehicle and most importantly, set LS's mind at rest concerning the need for blue on Birmingham's buses (albeit not of the dark or Oxford variety)!!! Serious point though - the logo and its colours are all important as part of NX's brand.

I agree; Although I'd prefer rather then red and white it should be blue and white. Always need a bit of blue: although I fear that's a thing of the past.
Yeah - think you're right and indeed the front one would need to be - red on red is worse than white on light grey!! Perhaps blue could be used in the lettering on the platinum - after all red white and blue are NX house colours - looks great on the c2c train fleet also.
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arrifirststage

Paint them in Wolverhampton green and yellow....that would be noticeable,but since most members quote words like refined and sophisticated then the most splendid livery you are ever likely to see was West Bromwich Corporation two blues and cream with lining out.
By the way,refined and sophisticated makes me imagine passengers must at least wear evening dress or top hats.

karl724223

Wmpte blue and cream

RW

In certain lighting conditions, particularly direct sunlight, the current colour used for the logos, silver or whatever, makes them virtually invisible. The use of red and/or blue and/or white would be good for making them clear at all times.

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