Hagley Road First Sprint Network.

[karl724223]

Most of the above is yet further proof........don't let PR crackpots loose with anything.
If I wanted to go (to use a previous example) from Acocks Green to Oldbury then my own car will inevitably be easier than any bus alternative with or without changes.
By all means improve routes along Hagley Road,or any other road,by improving the road network,not by blocking the existing space with ever larger buses.
If these monsters do not work in a small place like York,they sure as he'll will be even worse in larger cities.

Exactly! Centro will be a decade behind First Groups FTR project by the time Sprint is finally launched, have Centro not observed the massive flop that is FTR??? First Group are now stuck with these £300k machines and don't really know what to do with them......

sell them to centro

[winston]

Most of the above is yet further proof........don't let PR crackpots loose with anything.
If I wanted to go (to use a previous example) from Acocks Green to Oldbury then my own car will inevitably be easier than any bus alternative with or without changes.
By all means improve routes along Hagley Road,or any other road,by improving the road network,not by blocking the existing space with ever larger buses.
If these monsters do not work in a small place like York,they sure as he'll will be even worse in larger cities.

Exactly! Centro will be a decade behind First Groups FTR project by the time Sprint is finally launched, have Centro not observed the massive flop that is FTR??? First Group are now stuck with these £300k machines and don't really know what to do with them......

sell them to centro

Knowing how on the ball Centro are, they'd probably give First Group more than they we worth  ;)

[Bob]

Just imagine if bus services in the WM were still publicly owned and hadnt been sold off...thered be no probs with integration/compensating companies/travelcards vs n bus etc....simple straightforward etc

[winston]

Just imagine if bus services in the WM were still publicly owned and hadnt been sold off...thered be no probs with integration/compensating companies/travelcards vs n bus etc....simple straightforward etc

I can't really remember how bus services & fares compared operated under WMPTE.  Fleet investment was pretty high & the fleet modern as they'd bought 910 Metrobuses (2001-2910) between 1979-1986 D-day

[Bob]

Yea. And it was run as a public service.  Private profit wasnt the main aim. Part of their remit was to integrate public transport in the wm

[tank90]

Most of the above is yet further proof........don't let PR crackpots loose with anything.
If I wanted to go (to use a previous example) from Acocks Green to Oldbury then my own car will inevitably be easier than any bus alternative with or without changes.
By all means improve routes along Hagley Road,or any other road,by improving the road network,not by blocking the existing space with ever larger buses.
If these monsters do not work in a small place like York,they sure as he'll will be even worse in larger cities.

Exactly! Centro will be a decade behind First Groups FTR project by the time Sprint is finally launched, have Centro not observed the massive flop that is FTR??? First Group are now stuck with these £300k machines and don't really know what to do with them......

FTR flopped due to the size of the truses which would be why the bigger ones work in the rest of Europe.

Also to say the Bendi didn't work in London isn't fair either. Boris just took the view of a few to make his point and give himself some cred to get the top Torie job if DC fecks up.

Sprint will have a higher chance of working with the 24 metre Trus than an 18 metre.

[Stuharris 6360]

Any news on SPRINT< I thought it was supposed to be up and running this year?

[CL]

Any news on SPRINT< I thought it was supposed to be up and running this year?

Not quite. See here: https://www.centro.org.uk/transport/sprint/funding-and-timescales/

The earliest we can expect to see it is 2016/2017 - of course, there has been the Paradise Circus works going on this year also, so :\ ...

[Stuharris 6360]

Not quite. See here: https://www.centro.org.uk/transport/sprint/funding-and-timescales/

The earliest we can expect to see it is 2016/2017 - of course, there has been the Paradise Circus works going on this year also, so :\ ...

Well according to the article it will take 18 months to build, so that is 2016 out of the window.

[wembley86]

Well according to the article it will take 18 months to build, so that is 2016 out of the window.

what a joke,  i thought it would have been a dedicated bus lane or are they waiting for metro works to be done on Broad St/Paradise Circus before doing the bus lnae

[karl724223]

With all the investment on the Hagley road
9 Crimson
126 platinum
X10 to become platinum
120 new electric buses 2017
Would the sprint idea be viable now

[Stu]

With all the investment on the Hagley road
9 Crimson
126 platinum
X10 to become platinum
120 new electric buses 2017
Would the sprint idea be viable now

Yes, because there will still be buses along the Hagley Road, but perhaps some of these newer ones would be displaced elsewhere.

[karl724223]

Yes, because there will still be buses along the Hagley Road, but perhaps some of these newer ones would be displaced elsewhere.

but what if nx didn't win the tender ?

[Stu]

but what if nx didn't win the tender ?

It's probably highly unlikely that anyone else would operate it, but if that became the case, then yes, NX would probably go all out to compete against it!

[Steve3229vp]

It's probably highly unlikely that anyone else would operate it, but if that became the case, then yes, NX would probably go all out to compete against it!

But with the new TfWM coming in, then it'll be an integrated transport network, so there will be no competition. If the Sprint route from City to Quinton goes ahead, then I would expect the 9 to be reduced (it's already reduced to Saturdays to every 10 mins)