Bus Accidents/Incidents.

[Stuharris 6360]

What speed was 4520 doing?

[Stu]

The CCTV footage is pretty shocking to watch, I had reservations about sharing it myself...

...however it still doesn't show the full picture of what happened - it does appear (though it might be the angle of the shot) that the double-deck is moving away from the pavement, if only we could see what was just out of camera shot to the left...

[Stuharris 6360]

The CCTV footage is pretty shocking to watch, I had reservations about sharing it myself...

...however it still doesn't show the full picture of what happened - it does appear (though it might be the angle of the shot) that the double-deck is moving away from the pavement, if only we could see what was just out of camera shot to the left...

Was the driver of 4520 taken ill or something, as you say @Stu we can't see 100% of what happened, however travelling at that speed, something isn't right!

[notepanel]

Was the driver of 4520 taken ill or something, as you say @Stu we can't see 100% of what happened, however travelling at that speed, something isn't right!

The Gemini doesn't even appear to brake before impact.

You'd think the driver has either been taken unwell/fallen asleep or has expected the Scania to pull in and give way just off camera - but even then he should have been able to stop.

[Liberator9]

That looked painful - glad no one was too seriously injured. Not going to speculate as unfair on the drivers, but certainly going to be a trip to Walsall now for 1926. Been a bit traumatic for the 27 driver with that Gemini coming straight at you...

[MW]

Apparently there was a Fiat Punto that pulled out just off shot. From watching that though it does look like a lack of attempt to slow down. I don't know. If that was at 1059 it's also running late.

[2206]

That looked painful - glad no one was too seriously injured. Not going to speculate as unfair on the drivers, but certainly going to be a trip to Walsall now for 1926. Been a bit traumatic for the 27 driver with that Gemini coming straight at you...

People have been injured though none are thought to be life threatening @Liberator9

[2206]

Apparently there was a Fiat Punto that pulled out just off shot. From watching that though it does look like a lack of attempt to slow down. I don't know. If that was at 1059 it's also running late.

What I read on the Birmingham Mail was due to people parking on that  road the residents want to make it a one way road so it is safer for drivers @MW

[Liberator9]

Yeah I saw none were life threatening which I was relieved to read after watching that video. That road is a nightmare at times - got stuck behind a bin lorry for 10 minutes at 8 in the morning whilst on a 11C once. Nowhere to pass at all. Had another time when a car was coming head on with the bus and the car showed complete disregard to the fact the bus had right of way.

[Stu]

I can agree with what residents are saying about the parking, you can see on one of the photos on the Birmingham Mail gallery that there are several cars parked illegally on the single-yellow line, and you can see them all on Google Streetview too.

Maybe it's time that the 11A/C was rerouted to use Wheelers Lane and Howard Road East to get to/from Alcester Road, but perhaps keep the 27 along Addison Road (as it's less frequent)?

[trident4370]

Addison road has always been a nightmare, there are residents who park like idiots yes but you get a lot of people who park there and walk down to the high st without a second thought as parking in Kings Heath is erm... minimal. There's also a car dealer by the bus stop who likes to park his cars in the road on double yellows creating a bottleneck when buses are in at the bus stop.

[Liberator9]

Howard Road East is not much better for buses - got cars parked down there half the time on the one side making it narrow. Queues also form due to the lights in the westbound direction which would cause late running in the peak times. That's the reason the 76 goes down Wheeler's Lane only to get to the Alcester Road.

[Stevo]

The Gemini didn't seem to slow down. I wonder if the driver had some sort of illness.

[Liverpool Street]

Omnilink was stationary at POI.

Interesting footage.

Condolences to all involved.

[don]

The Gemini didn't seem to slow down. I wonder if the driver had some sort of illness.

I thought that - severe impact but would have been a worse impact for the buses if the Omnilink had its brakes on - I suspect by the distance it deflects backwards that any vehicle behind it out of shot would also have been involved. It said on the bbc radio news last night that six people were injured and the drivers had to be cut out of the cabs :-/ horrific incident for all involved.