Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

[Gareth]

There's an article on the E400 MMC in the new BUSES magazine. It also mentions that NXWM will be taking the new 400's

[Trident 4609]

There's an article on the E400 MMC in the new BUSES magazine. It also mentions that NXWM will be taking the new 400's

I already mentioned it on the last page Gareth :)  It also mentions as long as Euro 5 is avaliable the old E400 model will still be avaliable

[PM]

Looks like there's now competition...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/14257349733/

[andrew1991]

Looks like there's now competition...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/14257349733/

News article here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/10846546/Metrodecker-the-new-London-bus.html

[Liverpool Street]

Eek! It's awfully exciting.

Although that MetroDecker has some questionable design, I do quite like it!

Indeed, doesn't look at half as well put together as does the E400, in hindsight.

[Trident 4609]

Looks like there's now competition...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/14257349733/

Looks like the double deck version of the Optare Metrocity Midibus designed to TfL Spec for London Operators:

http://www.optare.com/pr_08_10_13.htm

[Stuharris 6360]

Will be interesting to see if there is much interest in this in London, there are still 300+ New Routemasters to arrive over the next 18 months/ 2 years, plus the Enviro 400 is popular in London also.

[CL]

http://www.alexander-dennis.com/news/100m-deal-set-to-revitalise-national-express-fleets-and-boost-uk-bus-industry/

I guess they are getting some Euro6 vehicles after all. :D

[Trident 4609]

http://www.alexander-dennis.com/news/100m-deal-set-to-revitalise-national-express-fleets-and-boost-uk-bus-industry/

I guess they are getting some Euro6 vehicles after all. :D

Yes i think it was mentioned further back in the thread that the next batch onwards will have Euro 6 engines (The MMC E400 isn't avaliable with Euro 5)

[winston]

http://www.alexander-dennis.com/news/100m-deal-set-to-revitalise-national-express-fleets-and-boost-uk-bus-industry/

I guess they are getting some Euro6 vehicles after all. :D

Yes i think it was mentioned further back in the thread that the next batch onwards will have Euro 6 engines (The MMC E400 isn't avaliable with Euro 5)

Are we sure that the first batch of Euro 6 double deckers will actually be E400 MMC's? Or could they be the current E400 design with Euro 6 engines similar to First 33788 ?

[Trident 4609]

@Winston i'm sure i read somewhere that NX are having the new MMC Euro 6 E400's.

EDIT: I have just found out my copy of last months edition of Buses (May Edition on sale Mid April) .

There is an article on page 10 about the NX/ADL five year contract entitled 'Alexander Dennis Wins entire five-year order from NatEx'

It says:
"National Express Group has placed a groundbreaking order with Alexander Dennis to meet all its UK Bus requirements for the next five years. The mix of single- and double-deckers,all with Euro 6 engines, will go to its West Midlands and Dundee fleets beginning in the second half of this year. In all, NatEx anticipates taking around 600 vehicles by 2018, starting this year with 100-plus and settling at 125 a year for the next 4 years. The single-deckers will be midi-size, currently represented by the Enviro 200,While the double deckers will be of the new generation Enviro400 successor expected to be unveiled in May

[winston]

@Winston i'm sure i read somewhere that NX are having the new MMC Euro 6 E400's.

Will double check now to see if i can find the article i read

It will be good if they are going to all be MMC's, as it's pretty damn stylish. I think ADL have excelled themselves on this project, the revamp appears far superior to Wrightbus Gemini 3. The MMC may be part of the reason why NX have chosen ADL solely for the next five years.

I don't think I've seen two different articles that actually state the same quantities...... ???

[Stuharris 6360]

@Nathan @Winston  With National Express making this sort of commitement to ADL, i wonder what sort of price or discount ADL are offering?

[nitromatt1]

@Nathan @Winston  With National Express making this sort of commitement to ADL, i wonder what sort of price or discount ADL are offering?

I can't imagine they'd get much of a discount as such, but the rule of thumb with these sort of things is the more units you buy, the less you pay for each unit

[winston]

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@Nathan @Winston  With National Express making this sort of commitement to ADL, i wonder what sort of price or discount ADL are offering?

I can't imagine they'd get much of a discount as such, but the rule of thumb with these sort of things is the more units you buy, the less you pay for each unit
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I should imagine there was some incentive, as it guarantees ADL orders/production for the next five years and production slots can be booked well in advance