Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

[Gareth]

I rode on 6102 today from Colmore Row to Stourbridge and was impressed. The ride seemed better than the previous E400s and there was nothing wrong with performance - it was quick off the mark and got into 6th gear through Five Ways underpass.  I liked the interior too. The new moquette with red dots was attractive and I approved of the 'don't put your feet on the seats' signs. The engine had a nice throb, too. It was lighter at 11.2 something tonnes. Two girls were handing out leaflets for passenger's opinions with free tickets as a reward. But learn how to use a spell check, people! Automically?

Another spelling mistake?! Is it work experience kids in the graphics department? I know we all make the odd mistake every now and again, but to get it wrong on leaflets and even worse, the branding is poor show.

[Trident 4194]

How has it got 2 extra seats upstairs? Also I'm glad to see the buggy space is a lot more spacious and well designed.

Also my mom went on one from quinton to halesowen, and said she didn't even realise it coming, she was impressed with them

[Tony]

How has it got 2 extra seats upstairs? Also I'm glad to see the buggy space is a lot more spacious and well designed

I think they are a bit longer than the 48**

Extra two seats upstairs because the staircase is shorter, hence loss of seat underneath

[Tony]

How has it got 2 extra seats upstairs? Also I'm glad to see the buggy space is a lot more spacious and well designed

I think they are a bit longer than the 48**

Extra two seats upstairs because the staircase is shorter, hence loss of seat underneath

Are they the same length then?

I haven't got the dimensions yet to compare

[Stuharris 6360]

How has it got 2 extra seats upstairs? Also I'm glad to see the buggy space is a lot more spacious and well designed

I think they are a bit longer than the 48**

Extra two seats upstairs because the staircase is shorter, hence loss of seat underneath

Are they the same length then?

I haven't got the dimensions yet to compare

According to the New Enviro400mmc brochure, the full length version can seat up to 7 people more, so perhaps these are not full length. Strangly thr brochure doesn't give dimensions.

[John]

Are the original style Enviro400s still being built, or are only MMC being built now? 

[Stuharris 6360]

I rode on 6102 today from Colmore Row to Stourbridge and was impressed. The ride seemed better than the previous E400s and there was nothing wrong with performance - it was quick off the mark and got into 6th gear through Five Ways underpass.  I liked the interior too. The new moquette with red dots was attractive and I approved of the 'don't put your feet on the seats' signs. The engine had a nice throb, too. It was lighter at 11.2 something tonnes. Two girls were handing out leaflets for passenger's opinions with free tickets as a reward. But learn how to use a spell check, people! Automically?

I too enjoyed 6102, it's fan was rather loud, but you have to love the bell noice, really good interior, all be it the seats are very hard, and the fire door is diagonal. Also do these buses have one less seat than the current e400s as there is no seat behind the driver? Very pleased with buses, I am also pleased that I got on one that has not been trashed yet, no rattles and very smooth

9/10 for me

Way too warm though, were the heaters stuck on??

@Matt shouldn't have been and i quote

"ADL engineers have made profound changes. These are
based on a new approach that incorporates a heating unit
located in the lower saloon. This forces air to all corners
of the bus quickly and efficiently, providing a constant
temperature throughout and combined with an air
chiller can contain heat to circa 17-18°C ensuring that
passengers remain warm in the winter and cool in the
summer months."

[Stuharris 6360]

I rode on 6102 today from Colmore Row to Stourbridge and was impressed. The ride seemed better than the previous E400s and there was nothing wrong with performance - it was quick off the mark and got into 6th gear through Five Ways underpass.  I liked the interior too. The new moquette with red dots was attractive and I approved of the 'don't put your feet on the seats' signs. The engine had a nice throb, too. It was lighter at 11.2 something tonnes. Two girls were handing out leaflets for passenger's opinions with free tickets as a reward. But learn how to use a spell check, people! Automically?

I too enjoyed 6102, it's fan was rather loud, but you have to love the bell noice, really good interior, all be it the seats are very hard, and the fire door is diagonal. Also do these buses have one less seat than the current e400s as there is no seat behind the driver? Very pleased with buses, I am also pleased that I got on one that has not been trashed yet, no rattles and very smooth

9/10 for me

Way too warm though, were the heaters stuck on??

@Matt shouldn't have been and i quote

"ADL engineers have made profound changes. These are
based on a new approach that incorporates a heating unit
located in the lower saloon. This forces air to all corners
of the bus quickly and efficiently, providing a constant
temperature throughout and combined with an air
chiller can contain heat to circa 17-18°C ensuring that
passengers remain warm in the winter and cool in the
summer months."

It was way too warm though... @Trident 4194  will back me up haha

@Matt Would love to know where the figure 17 - 18 degress comes from? That would be slightly to warm for me!

[the trainbasher]

Anything hotter than -10 is hot for me!

[CL]

Are the original style Enviro400s still being built, or are only MMC being built now? 

I should imagine so. It's still on their website, i'd imagine the MMC is their new flagship model, so they'd promote it more(?), as a greener vehicle, definitely. ???

[P419 EJW]

How has it got 2 extra seats upstairs? Also I'm glad to see the buggy space is a lot more spacious and well designed

I think they are a bit longer than the 48**

Extra two seats upstairs because the staircase is shorter, hence loss of seat underneath

Are they the same length then?

I haven't got the dimensions yet to compare

Perhaps this may help? On that day when the E400MMC demonstrator visited Birmingham, I had a look through the info booklet and took a picture of the dimensions.

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[winston]

How has it got 2 extra seats upstairs? Also I'm glad to see the buggy space is a lot more spacious and well designed

I think they are a bit longer than the 48**

Extra two seats upstairs because the staircase is shorter, hence loss of seat underneath

Are they the same length then?

I haven't got the dimensions yet to compare

Perhaps this may help? On that day when the E400MMC demonstrator visited Birmingham, I had a look through the info booklet and took a picture of the dimensions.

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The ones currently being delivered to NXWM are 10.9M long I believe

[suavegarv]

What about leg room for 6 footers! on the new ones? Can I sit comfortably without my knees in my belly or one leg out in the passageway like on a majority of seats on an Omnilinks?!

[Tony]

What about leg room for 6 footers! on the new ones? Can I sit comfortably without my knees in my belly or one leg out in the passageway like on a majority of seats on an Omnilinks?!

I am six foot as well and tried loads of seats and every one had about 3 inches spare legroom for me

[Eric Shaw]

I had a short ride on 6107 today and was very impressed with the wheelchair and buggy provision .It must be the best on any double decker and better than almost all single deckers.