Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

[Wolves256]

I think the WB 06 reg Geminis will be going to Dundee

[monkeyjoe]

Didn't think of that but I would have thought would make sense to put them on the 11. Not sure if they would get way with sending the presidents to Dundee.

[2900]

So my fears have materialised more enviros to west brom oh crap, and how is replacing gems with enviro 400s of a similar age an upgrade, gems wipes the floor with enviros. It all so depressing

[winston]

Didn't think of that but I would have thought would make sense to put them on the 11. Not sure if they would get way with sending the presidents to Dundee.

Dundee  already have more than enough Presidents, they are now too old to use on Fife School. They could do with more modern deckers

[Liberator9]

@2900

Does seem a bit of downgrade for you there regarding the Geminis - although these YW E400s are pretty good actually - quite good at accelerating and actually pretty well built. I use them quite a bit and once they've had a refresh inside/out they'll be good as new again.

[2900]

I assume these 57 plate enviro 400s have the trident chassis with the 8.3 litre cummins c series engine, which type gearboxes do these have. Guess I,ll have plenty to compare.
Wil the remaining 4500 gems be off else where then

[Trident 4609]

I assume these 57 plate enviro 400s have the trident chassis with the 8.3 litre cummins c series engine, which type gearboxes do these have. Guess I,ll have plenty to compare.
Wil the remaining 4500 gems be off else where then

I'm sure the Euro 4 E400's are fitted with Cummins B series engine. The C series was fitted to our Tridents and 4698

[Pulsar]

They're on their way down the M74...

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Credit to MOD571P

The first 7 are already at Pensnett garage as of today - see Pensnett Garage thread, Winston

[Sh4318]

Please... No more Gemini transfers out of WB. We've gone from having a large batch (4503-4514, 4517-4534, 4635-4642, 4700-4717) to having 14 45** Gems and 18 47**s. Hopefully Perry Barr's 44**s will transfer to WB, but I think more likely destinations are WA or AG.

So my fears have materialised more enviros to west brom oh crap, and how is replacing gems with enviro 400s of a similar age an upgrade, gems wipes the floor with enviros. It all so depressing

To be fair, Geminis wipe the floor with everything

[John]

Please... No more Gemini transfers out of WB. We've gone from having a large batch (4503-4514, 4517-4534, 4635-4642, 4700-4717) to having 14 45** Gems and 18 47**s. Hopefully Perry Barr's 44**s will transfer to WB, but I think more likely destinations are WA or AG.

So my fears have materialised more enviros to west brom oh crap, and how is replacing gems with enviro 400s of a similar age an upgrade, gems wipes the floor with enviros. It all so depressing

To be fair, Geminis wipe the floor with everything

Don't forget, Perry Barr might lose the 42** B7TLs instead of Geminis

[Sh4318]

Please... No more Gemini transfers out of WB. We've gone from having a large batch (4503-4514, 4517-4534, 4635-4642, 4700-4717) to having 14 45** Gems and 18 47**s. Hopefully Perry Barr's 44**s will transfer to WB, but I think more likely destinations are WA or AG.

So my fears have materialised more enviros to west brom oh crap, and how is replacing gems with enviro 400s of a similar age an upgrade, gems wipes the floor with enviros. It all so depressing

To be fair, Geminis wipe the floor with everything

Don't forget, Perry Barr might lose the 42** B7TLs instead of Geminis

Good point, looking at the ALX/Gemini ratio at PB that makes a lot more sense ::)

[don]

Please... No more Gemini transfers out of WB. We've gone from having a large batch (4503-4514, 4517-4534, 4635-4642, 4700-4717) to having 14 45** Gems and 18 47**s. Hopefully Perry Barr's 44**s will transfer to WB, but I think more likely destinations are WA or AG.

So my fears have materialised more enviros to west brom oh crap, and how is replacing gems with enviro 400s of a similar age an upgrade, gems wipes the floor with enviros. It all so depressing

To be fair, Geminis wipe the floor with everything

Don't forget, Perry Barr might lose the 42** B7TLs instead of Geminis

I thought they were just losing 11 bendis? I would have thought the most likely place for a batch of Geminis to end up is in the two tone green livery of Dundee - this would match their other double deckers and allow the non less than 15 yr age compliant Presidents to be withdrawn. How many have they got - 16 so that matches a certain batch fairly evenly??

The Hagley Road will look very different when the 22 MMCs enter service. All we need now is a special 126 livery by Best Impressions to extol the virtues of Dudley Zoo and the Black Country museum to complement the 9s!!!

[John]

I thought they were just losing 11 bendis?

We are supposed to be getting 22 ex-Pensnett Enviro400s (unless plans have changed), so we will more than likely lose an additional 10 buses

[don]

I thought they were just losing 11 bendis?

We are supposed to be getting 22 ex-Pensnett Enviro400s (unless plans have changed), so we will more than likely lose an additional 10 buses

I can't imagine why when Pensnett have 27 Mercs to replace. Unless cascades for President replacement happen first.

[winston]

I thought they were just losing 11 bendis?

We are supposed to be getting 22 ex-Pensnett Enviro400s (unless plans have changed), so we will more than likely lose an additional 10 buses

I can't imagine why when Pensnett have 27 Mercs to replace. Unless cascades for President replacement happen first.

Don't forget that Pensnett are also having 7 new E200's to replace Mercs as well, I should imagine the remaining Mercs will be withdrawn by cascading Tridents in