October 2014 tenders - discussion

[Jay]

Have all the bids been finalised now?

If so, can someone in the know let us know whos got what please.

Wmsnt have apparently gained the 226
Hansons have apparently gained the 55
Arriva have gained the 326
Diamond have gained the 70 Walsall

Not sure on Erdington 25, Rubery 42, wolverhampton 303, Walsall 24, 65, Oldbury 55 but I know diamond have deregistered them

Where dose this gone to?

[Stuharris 6360]

Have all the bids been finalised now?

If so, can someone in the know let us know whos got what please.

Wmsnt have apparently gained the 226
Hansons have apparently gained the 55
Arriva have gained the 326
Diamond have gained the 70 Walsall

Not sure on Erdington 25, Rubery 42, wolverhampton 303, Walsall 24, 65, Oldbury 55 but I know diamond have deregistered them

Where dose this gone to?

Brandhall to Smethwick (Cape Hill)., According to the timetable, it is a 7 day a week service, will be interesting to see if Hansons will operate on a Sunday again.

[Westy]

Have all the bids been finalised now?

If so, can someone in the know let us know whos got what please.

Arriva have gained the 326
Diamond have gained the 70 Walsall

Is it possible to connect at Bilston with a 530 back to Wolves?

Presumbly a bus from the 301 will do the 70.

[Cheese]

PD0001111/716 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Wolverhampton Bus Station
Finish Point: Bilbrook Railway Station
Via:
Service Number: 54
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 26-OCT-2014
Other Details: Monday to saturday

To serve i54, straight up the Stafford Road then a loop round Bilbrook.

Is this tendered or commercial?

Funded by i54 I think.

[Kevin]

PD0001111/716 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Wolverhampton Bus Station
Finish Point: Bilbrook Railway Station
Via:
Service Number: 54
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 26-OCT-2014
Other Details: Monday to saturday

To serve i54, straight up the Stafford Road then a loop round Bilbrook.

Is this tendered or commercial?

Funded by i54 I think.

Wasn't there a staffs cc funded route from codsall through pendeford (and hence past i54) and up towards Penkridge and Stafford? Maybe this is partly to help bridge that gap?

[Cheese]

PD0001111/716 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Wolverhampton Bus Station
Finish Point: Bilbrook Railway Station
Via:
Service Number: 54
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 26-OCT-2014
Other Details: Monday to saturday

To serve i54, straight up the Stafford Road then a loop round Bilbrook.

Is this tendered or commercial?

Funded by i54 I think.

Wasn't there a staffs cc funded route from codsall through pendeford (and hence past i54) and up towards Penkridge and Stafford? Maybe this is partly to help bridge that gap?

There was (88) but this is a completely new service, not really a replacement for anything. Expect further i54 services in the future.

[the trainbasher]

Knocked up a quick spreadsheet with the win/loss stats on.

Looks like Diamond have lost a fair few buses worth of work as it sits with what we know...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ism9svoyjp4ebsy/2014%20tenders.xlsx?dl=0

[Westy]

Knocked up a quick spreadsheet with the win/loss stats on.

Looks like Diamond have lost a fair few buses worth of work as it sits with what we know...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ism9svoyjp4ebsy/2014%20tenders.xlsx?dl=0

Surely swings & roundabouts.

There will be one company who tends to lose a lot of routes & another that will gain lots of routes, then you'll get the surprise winners!

Back in the past, NX/Wmt/Twm tended to win a route & I always wondered how before said route was won by another operator.

Pretty sure there was a Walsall route that always seemed to be changing operator but I can't think which one it was.

I'll take a guess,  the old evening & Sunday 319, think Twm, Arriva, Choice & the old Pmt operation all had a go on it at least once!

Out of the main operators past & present,  I think Diamond has never had a regular go on that tendered route!

[Sh4318]

Have all the bids been finalised now?

If so, can someone in the know let us know whos got what please.

Wmsnt have apparently gained the 226
Hansons have apparently gained the 55
Arriva have gained the 326
Diamond have gained the 70 Walsall

Not sure on Erdington 25, Rubery 42, wolverhampton 303, Walsall 24, 65, Oldbury 55 but I know diamond have deregistered them

It's a bit out of their way, to operate the 55. It's a nice little route, only requires one bus

[the trainbasher]

Knocked up a quick spreadsheet with the win/loss stats on.

Looks like Diamond have lost a fair few buses worth of work as it sits with what we know...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ism9svoyjp4ebsy/2014%20tenders.xlsx?dl=0

Surely swings & roundabouts.

There will be one company who tends to lose a lot of routes & another that will gain lots of routes, then you'll get the surprise winners!

Back in the past, NX/Wmt/Twm tended to win a route & I always wondered how before said route was won by another operator.

Pretty sure there was a Walsall route that always seemed to be changing operator but I can't think which one it was.

I'll take a guess,  the old evening & Sunday 319, think Twm, Arriva, Choice & the old Pmt operation all had a go on it at least once!

Out of the main operators past & present,  I think Diamond has never had a regular go on that tendered route!

True, I'm just looking at it from a statistical analysis point of view...

[the trainbasher]

Apparently the 20, 21, 22, 53 have all been lost from Arriva!

[winston]

Apparently the 20, 21, 22, 53 have all been lost from Arriva!

The 20, 21 & 22 would make ideal additions to Diamond's Sandwell network of routes, I suspect WMSNT has mostly likely won them though

[Sh4318]

I hope Diamond enjoy their buses getting stuck between parked cars on the 21!

[fleetline6477]

I hope Diamond enjoy their buses getting stuck between parked cars on the 21!

Step back in time then. Pete's / People's Express ran the forerunner of the 21, 489 / 200/1 and certain roads especially around Londonderry were tight especially when the 489 progressed from Varios to Carlyle Darts and then Plaxton Darts and not always MPDs.  The buses on the 200/1 passed in the loop off Manor Lane, Londonderry, pavements often came into play.

[domino.99]

Apparently the 20, 21, 22, 53 have all been lost from Arriva!

I was told WMSNT have won the 22 and will hope to have it go through Dudley.