Arriva Leicester

[AlexS]

The 86 and 87 have been diabolical in recent years, and if they'd have just transferred the rest of the Pulsars (3773, 3775, 3777 and 3778), they'd be perfect for them. Optares have been on the service for 2 years now and they still can't see that they don't work. Streetlites can just about get away with it, but the best singles for them that they had before the Pulsars arrived were the E200s. Oh wait, but they're always in Nuneaton, and if not that, they'll be on the 44/44A/49 or the X84.

It's a pity they had to get rid of the Cadets last year as they worked perfectly as well.

It's not as simple as saying what is the best bus for the route as they simply don't have enough buses to keep all of the smaller ones parked up for the foreseeable future. While Versa's are not ideal for the 86/87 in the current circumstances (although they were suitable pre March), the 86/87 remain the routes that they remain least unsuitable for and therefore it is those routes that they have to be allocated to. Given the situation that they have been given in terms of recent changes to the fleet Wigston (and Hinckley) are probably doing the best job in terms of allocations that they have in many a year.

[leicesterbusadventurer]

3773 is now at Wigston.

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3773 is now at Wigston.

3775 and 3777 were working on X6 to Coventry when I was in Leicester last Wednesday - as my understanding is that the X6 is going to be operated as part of the HinckleyBus operation they would presumably be using Wigston vehicles?

Vehicles on the X6 have now started to track on Bustimes and both vehicles were also on X6 today (Saturday).

Mike T.

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The 86 and 87 have been diabolical in recent years ...

Not a lot of capacity today - I viewed 4 of the 5 vehicles working on 86/87 and they were 2491, 2503, 2570 and 2948. The Solo's will get to 'bus full' very quickly during the busy periods.

Presumably the larger vehicles are being used on the duplicate workings or S-routes for the schools.

Mike T.

[Mayfield]

Image on Leicestershire live of a packed single decker including a least 10 standing (looks like a Versa) on the X84, seems like a wonderful decision to swop buses between Wigston and Leicester has worked really well.

[LazyGuy222]

Image on Leicestershire live of a packed single decker including a least 10 standing (looks like a Versa) on the X84, seems like a wonderful decision to swop buses between Wigston and Leicester has worked really well.

It's an E200MMC. Appalling job by Arriva. Doesn't seem to be the case with First, shows who cares about their passengers safety.

[WilliamLeylandNational]

It's an E200MMC. Appalling job by Arriva. Doesn't seem to be the case with First, shows who cares about their passengers safety.

This is on the duplicate SX84 which, as it is a school only service, can carry up to a full load as per Government guidelines.  There is also a X84 that runs at the same time for members of the general public.

[WilliamLeylandNational]

Image on Leicestershire live of a packed single decker including a least 10 standing (looks like a Versa) on the X84, seems like a wonderful decision to swop buses between Wigston and Leicester has worked really well.

In a world of limited numbers of double deckers and only historic school patronage data to base planning decisions on in an unknown pandemic world, I would be amazed if anyone could get everything exactly correct first time.

[Tony]

This is on the duplicate SX84 which, as it is a school only service, can carry up to a full load as per Government guidelines.  There is also a X84 that runs at the same time for members of the general public.

Looks like usual conclusion jumping

[Mayfield]

Have you read the report from the parent and Arriva's response. plenty of empty DD's trundling around Leicester.

[WilliamLeylandNational]

Have you read the report from the parent and Arriva's response. plenty of empty DD's trundling around Leicester.

Yes have read it all.  Have also seen very full double deckers on the S31E, S127 and on the 47/48 and S47/S48 at school times and on the 29/29A at Amazon shift times.  Where have you seen empty double deckers?

[WilliamLeylandNational]

Looks like usual conclusion jumping

Could be.  As long as Arriva respond to this and adjust things I can't see what more they can do?

[Mayfield]

58/A

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58/A

There are double deckers on some routes which are quite empty during the day but which are on those workings because of the loadings at school times and peak hours - the 58 and 58A get much busier during these periods. Therefore, these double deckers wouldn't be available for other uses at those times as their capacity would be needed where they are.

I know that Arriva aren't great at getting the right bus on the right route, but they've only got a limited number of double deckers (and drivers who could work duplicates with single deckers) so I'm sure they're doing the best they can to meet demand while being restricted by the capacity limitations. If that bus was on the SX84, it should only be used by school children and can be full to capacity under the government guidelines.

[AlexS]

There are double deckers on some routes which are quite empty during the day but which are on those workings because of the loadings at school times and peak hours - the 58 and 58A get much busier during these periods. Therefore, these double deckers wouldn't be available for other uses at those times as their capacity would be needed where they are.

I know that Arriva aren't great at getting the right bus on the right route, but they've only got a limited number of double deckers (and drivers who could work duplicates with single deckers) so I'm sure they're doing the best they can to meet demand while being restricted by the capacity limitations. If that bus was on the SX84, it should only be used by school children and can be full to capacity under the government guidelines.

Not only does that bus appear to be over capacity rather than at capacity (isn't the standing load on the 200 MMCs something like 3), but the X84 runs at speeds on some roads on which there really shouldn't be children standing whether or not there is a pandemic ongoing. Just because something is technically legal in terms of corona virus it isn't necessarily acceptable, especially when there are other equally obvious health and safety issues.