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2014 New Bus Orders

Started by Wolves256, January 08, 2014, 10:02:42 PM

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Wolves256

So NX have promised another 300 buses over the next 2 years (  includes the E400s delivered to PB )
1,  Which vehicles need to be replaced ?
2,  Which routes need new vehicles?
3,  Which garages need new investment /buses ?
4,  Have any buses been ordered ?

winston

1. Remaining B6LE, B10L & Mercs all need to be replaced
2. 11A & 11C, 45/47, 50, 61/63, 82/87 & 94
3. WB more new vehicles than the promised £3 Million investment, YW hasn't had anything new since 2010 & AG (Either for the Outer Circle or the concentration of Presidents needs to be reduced)
4. None confirmed

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Winston on January 08, 2014, 10:15:04 PM
1. Remaining B6LE, B10L & Mercs all need to be replaced
2. 11A & 11C, 45/47, 50, 61/63, 82/87 & 94
3. WB more new vehicles than the promised £3 Million investment, YW hasn't had anything new since 2010 & AG (Either for the Outer Circle or the concentration of Presidents needs to be reduced)
4. None confirmed

I thought there were some new E200s on order for WN?
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

Trident 4609

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 09, 2014, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 08, 2014, 10:15:04 PM
1. Remaining B6LE, B10L & Mercs all need to be replaced
2. 11A & 11C, 45/47, 50, 61/63, 82/87 & 94
3. WB more new vehicles than the promised £3 Million investment, YW hasn't had anything new since 2010 & AG (Either for the Outer Circle or the concentration of Presidents needs to be reduced)
4. None confirmed

I thought there were some new E200s on order for WN?

Not as far as i am aware Stu. I did say if WN did have any new buses it would probably be some E200's to replace B6's and Mercs :)

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Nathan on January 09, 2014, 08:17:41 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 09, 2014, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 08, 2014, 10:15:04 PM
1. Remaining B6LE, B10L & Mercs all need to be replaced
2. 11A & 11C, 45/47, 50, 61/63, 82/87 & 94
3. WB more new vehicles than the promised £3 Million investment, YW hasn't had anything new since 2010 & AG (Either for the Outer Circle or the concentration of Presidents needs to be reduced)
4. None confirmed

I thought there were some new E200s on order for WN?

Not as far as i am aware Stu. I did say if WN did have any new buses it would probably be some E200's to replace B6's and Mercs :)

I might be wrong Nathan, but i thought Tony confirmed the order a little while ago when someone asked him what was on order??
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

Trident 4609

Well i am doing my work experience at Park Lane so i will be finding out some relevent info :)

Stevo

Didn't someone say that garages were being asked to put in bids for new E200s?

John

Quote from: Stevo on January 09, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
Didn't someone say that garages were being asked to put in bids for new E200s?

Wasn't Walsall putting in a bid for some for the 34/8/9?

Trident 4609

Quote from: Stevo on January 09, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
Didn't someone say that garages were being asked to put in bids for new E200s?

The lady who showed us round the garage said they were considering putting a bid for E200's. I presume this would see off B6's and B10L's

Trident 4609

Quote from: John on January 09, 2014, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: Stevo on January 09, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
Didn't someone say that garages were being asked to put in bids for new E200s?

Wasn't Walsall putting in a bid for some for the 34/8/9?

Yes iirc it was for the 'Darlaston Corridor although they will likley appear regually on the 69/70/70A etc.

I can see the remaining B6's at WA/WB and WN being withdrawn this year through either new buses or cascades.

I wonder what would replace B6's on the 335/6? Would E200's fit round the 335/6 route

John

Quote from: Nathan on January 09, 2014, 08:49:46 PM
I wonder what would replace B6's on the 335/6? Would E200's fit round the 335/6 route

I would think so. They are of a similar size

Trident 4609

Quote from: John on January 09, 2014, 08:53:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 09, 2014, 08:49:46 PM
I wonder what would replace B6's on the 335/6? Would E200's fit round the 335/6 route

I would think so. They are of a similar size

With 300 buses due i would think all the mercs and B6's would be withdrawn. If another batch of E400's are ordered (I would think a batch for BC for PR and BR) i would think more tridents would be cascaded out to PE (Or possibly PL to replace some mercs or YW for the 6 to shift some omnilinks off the 6 onto the B10L routes inwhich the B10L's at YW could be withdrawn?

I could also saw more tridents going to PE from BC with more mercs being withdrawn from service

Tony

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 09, 2014, 08:26:59 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 09, 2014, 08:17:41 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 09, 2014, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 08, 2014, 10:15:04 PM
1. Remaining B6LE, B10L & Mercs all need to be replaced
2. 11A & 11C, 45/47, 50, 61/63, 82/87 & 94
3. WB more new vehicles than the promised £3 Million investment, YW hasn't had anything new since 2010 & AG (Either for the Outer Circle or the concentration of Presidents needs to be reduced)
4. None confirmed

I thought there were some new E200s on order for WN?

Not as far as i am aware Stu. I did say if WN did have any new buses it would probably be some E200's to replace B6's and Mercs :)

I might be wrong Nathan, but i thought Tony confirmed the order a little while ago when someone asked him what was on order??

I have confirmed twice in the last couple of weeks - There are currently NO buses on order!

Liberator9

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The 50 doesn't need new buses I've wouldn't have thought; the 57 Enviros are still in an excellent condition. Although would be nice to have some new deckers for the 76, 2, 3 etc! If National Express are aiming to get rid of the Volvo B10Ls then I'd like to see a batch of 10 or so new Scanias ordered to replace the B10Ls at YW. Make sense to have a unified fleet at YW of single deckers rather than two.

PM

Having been on some of abellio's 10 reg e200s, I really would seriously look at whether e200s are the way to go. Some of them were so deafening and rattled a lot unlike the other 2 door darts on the 100. So say they are less than 4 years old they sounded massively worse than the 54 reg darts on the same route. I question whether e200s were/are built to last as well as existing dart/pointers?

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