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26th January Changes

Started by notepanel, December 05, 2013, 02:39:04 PM

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notepanel

I know there's been discussion about this on several parts of the forum, but just to make it a bit clearer I've created this new topic.

Several NXWM registrations have appeared on VOSA today from 26 January, mainly in the Black Country:

*Route & Timetable change to the 40/41 (confirmed to be a route change on the 40)
*Route & Timetable change on the 69
*Timetable change on the 70/70A (presumably to do with the 69)
*Timetable change on the 8/89
*Route & Timetable change on the 82/82A
*Timetable changes for the 74, 75 & 79
*Timetable change for the 5 (Sutton)
*Route change on the 82 (Wolves)
*Cancellation of the 26
*Route & Timetable change on 25/25A
*Timetable & Route change on the 28


Trident 4609

Do you know what the route changes are for the 40/1 and 69?

notepanel

Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 05, 2013, 04:41:51 PM
Do you know what the route changes are for the 40/1 and 69?

No, I believe it is only the 40 route that is changing though. Interestingly, the 28 route is also changing (which is currently the 15 minute link between Willenhall-New Invention with the 41)

Trident 4609

Quote from: notepanel on December 05, 2013, 05:19:32 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 05, 2013, 04:41:51 PM
Do you know what the route changes are for the 40/1 and 69?

No, I believe it is only the 40 route that is changing though. Interestingly, the 28 route is also changing (which is currently the 15 minute link between Willenhall-New Invention with the 41)

Is the 28 changing on the Willenhall/New Invention end or the New Cross Hospital/Wolverhampton end?

pb2012

PD0001111/20 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall Bus Station and Mossley, Eagle Hotel given service number 70/70A effective from 26-Jan-2014. To amend Timetable.
PD0001111/56 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall, Park Street and Willenhall, Union Street given service number 40/41 effective from 26-Jan-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD0001111/81 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham City Centre, Upper Bull Street and Dudley, Bus Station given service number 74/75 effective from 26-Jan-2014. To amend Timetable.PD0001111/99 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, City Centre, Upper Bull Street and Wolverhampton, Bus Station given service number 79 effective from 26-Jan-2014. To amend Timetable.
PD0001111/131 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sutton Coldfield, Lower Parade and West Bromwich, Bus Station given service number 5 effective from 26-Jan-2014. To amend Timetable.
PD0001111/194 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton, Bus Station and Dudley, Bus Station given service number 82 effective from 26-Jan-2014. To amend Route.
PD0001111/222 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall, Bridge Streett and Willenhall, Union Street given service number 69 effective from 26-Jan-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD0001111/283 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton Bus Station and Bilston Bus Station given service number 26 effective from 26-Jan-2014.
PD0001111/528 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton Bus Station and Wolverhampton Bus Station given service number 682/682A effective from 26-Jan-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD0001111/649 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall and Wolverhampton given service number 8/89 effective from 26-Jan-2014. To amend Timetable.
PD0001111/670 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton Bus Station and Willenhall, Union Street given service number 28 effective from 26-Jan-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD0001111/671 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton Bus Station and Bilston, Bus Station given service number 25/25A effective from 26-Jan-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

Trident 4609

With regards to the 25/A,26 and 62/A changes,

The 62 may be withdrawn in April

Also in April the 25/6 will be joined up to create the 25A/25C circular route

I wonder what the route changes for the 28,62/A,69and 82?

P419 EJW

Am I understanding this correctly?

40/41 will terminate in Willenhall?
69 will terminate in Willenhall?
79 will extend and terminate in Birmingham?
82 route will be changed - which end? Dudley or Wolverhampton?

I'm only interested in those routes above.

Stu

Quote from: P419 EJW on December 05, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
Am I understanding this correctly?

79 will extend and terminate in Birmingham?

I'm only interested in those routes above.

No, the 79 is not being extended to Birmingham. It is still on the 'old' registration, and probably hasn't been updated.
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Trident 4609

Quote from: P419 EJW on December 05, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
Am I understanding this correctly?

40/41 will terminate in Willenhall?
69 will terminate in Willenhall?
79 will extend and terminate in Birmingham?
82 route will be changed - which end? Dudley or Wolverhampton?

I'm only interested in those routes above.

Those are probably old VOSA registrations? The 40 and 69 I cannot see being stopped going to Wolverhampton as both routes are well used at the Wolverhampton end.

Also yet again another 89 timetable change, Only changed at the end of October!

mikestone

Quote from: Stu on December 05, 2013, 07:14:09 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 05, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
Am I understanding this correctly?

79 will extend and terminate in Birmingham?

I'm only interested in those routes above.

No, the 79 is not being extended to Birmingham. It is still on the 'old' registration, and probably hasn't been updated.
;
Having one Sunday walked from Darlaston to Wolverhampton without one passing me, and regularly having to wait 45 minutes for one I should hope not!

P419 EJW

Stu - Thank you for the clarification.

Trident4609 - Okay, I see, that's alright then. I'm curious as to what changes they may be then. 😊

notepanel

Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 05, 2013, 07:15:16 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 05, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
Am I understanding this correctly?

40/41 will terminate in Willenhall?
69 will terminate in Willenhall?
79 will extend and terminate in Birmingham?
82 route will be changed - which end? Dudley or Wolverhampton?

I'm only interested in those routes above.

Those are probably old VOSA registrations? The 40 and 69 I cannot see being stopped going to Wolverhampton as both routes are well used at the Wolverhampton end.

Also yet again another 89 timetable change, Only changed at the end of October!

The 40 is fairly well used, but as long as it continues to serve Willenhall & Wolverhampton, the route it takes isn't as important (at one point the 333 detoured off the main road into Wolves twice). It could end up doing something ridiculous like from Willenhall go via Bilston and then the 26 route to Wolverhampton! But I don't think it will!

I did wonder if perhaps the ends of the 40/69 could be switched, so from Stroud Avenue the 40 may go via Coppice Farm & Wednesfield into Wolves, and the 69 could follow the old 369 route to Willenhall, then the 529 route into Willenhall. That would allow the 28 to perhaps follow a different route into Willenhall, which could then allow the 25 to go a different route perhaps, and would also help the long protests from people around Pool Hayes who lost the link to Sainsburys Reedswood?

domino.99

FFS the only route i get everyday they make a change i hope to god it's not massive for the 82(WN) any ideas of what it could be?

notepanel

Quote from: domino.99 on December 05, 2013, 08:31:04 PM
FFS the only route i get everyday they make a change i hope to god it's not massive for the 82(WN) any ideas of what it could be?

Potentially it could be something very trivial, such as exiting Bilston bus station via the Black Country Route rather than Hall Street for instance.

domino.99

Quote from: notepanel on December 05, 2013, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on December 05, 2013, 08:31:04 PM
FFS the only route i get everyday they make a change i hope to god it's not massive for the 82(WN) any ideas of what it could be?

Potentially it could be something very trivial, such as exiting Bilston bus station via the Black Country Route rather than Hall Street for instance.
which the drivers still probably wont follow also it could be summet like making it go into wolverhampton the old 583,544 did

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