Old bus routes

[winston]

Thanks for the replies.
Harborne was a bit of a Leyland National spotters paradise in the 90s with Central, City buslines, as well as Ludlows and Falcon on the 11 route all using them. Did Quinton garage ever run Nationals as I do not recall ever catching a WMT one in Harborne?

BCC with new merc minis? Would love to see a picture of that.

Pete's ran the 22 for a while as well didn't they?

I'm pretty sure BCC acquired a batch of Merc 609D's that were used on the 22/23 in 1992/3? Can't remember the registrations of them to double check.

Pete's also competed on the 22 with Volvo Citybuses, I think the 22 survived in to Go-Ahead ownership

No Quinton Garage has never operated Leyland Nationals to my knowledge

[Mike K]

Thanks for the replies.
Harborne was a bit of a Leyland National spotters paradise in the 90s with Central, City buslines, as well as Ludlows and Falcon on the 11 route all using them. Did Quinton garage ever run Nationals as I do not recall ever catching a WMT one in Harborne?

No. As far as I know the only single deckers QN ran were 1956 (the baseball bat / Hovis as I've heard it called) and Leyland Lynxs. 1211 to 1230 were originally new to QN and 1126-33 / 40 transferred when Dudley closed.

[Mike K]

Thanks for the replies.
Harborne was a bit of a Leyland National spotters paradise in the 90s with Central, City buslines, as well as Ludlows and Falcon on the 11 route all using them. Did Quinton garage ever run Nationals as I do not recall ever catching a WMT one in Harborne?

BCC with new merc minis? Would love to see a picture of that.

Pete's ran the 22 for a while as well didn't they?

I'm pretty sure BCC acquired a batch of Merc 609D's that were used on the 22/23 in 1992/3? Can't remember the registrations of them to double check.

Pete's also competed on the 22 with Volvo Citybuses, I think the 22 survived in to Go-Ahead ownership

No Quinton Garage has never operated Leyland Nationals to my knowledge

Yes I do remember the Pete's Citybuses on the 22 Winston. I don't remember the Mercs on the 22/23 though, I only recall BCC Merc minibuses on the 21A but I was in my early 20s back then and drinking and partying so it's all a bit of a blur. I tried to find some pictures but can't.

[PM]

Thanks for the replies.
Harborne was a bit of a Leyland National spotters paradise in the 90s with Central, City buslines, as well as Ludlows and Falcon on the 11 route all using them. Did Quinton garage ever run Nationals as I do not recall ever catching a WMT one in Harborne?

BCC with new merc minis? Would love to see a picture of that.

Pete's ran the 22 for a while as well didn't they?

I'm pretty sure BCC acquired a batch of Merc 609D's that were used on the 22/23 in 1992/3? Can't remember the registrations of them to double check.

Pete's also competed on the 22 with Volvo Citybuses, I think the 22 survived in to Go-Ahead ownership

No Quinton Garage has never operated Leyland Nationals to my knowledge

Yeah think you're right it definitely survived into go ahead ownership with those citybuses... Must be some of the worst looking buses to have ever run in the west midlands.

[winston]

Thanks for the replies.
Harborne was a bit of a Leyland National spotters paradise in the 90s with Central, City buslines, as well as Ludlows and Falcon on the 11 route all using them. Did Quinton garage ever run Nationals as I do not recall ever catching a WMT one in Harborne?

BCC with new merc minis? Would love to see a picture of that.

Pete's ran the 22 for a while as well didn't they?

I'm pretty sure BCC acquired a batch of Merc 609D's that were used on the 22/23 in 1992/3? Can't remember the registrations of them to double check.

Pete's also competed on the 22 with Volvo Citybuses, I think the 22 survived in to Go-Ahead ownership

No Quinton Garage has never operated Leyland Nationals to my knowledge

Yes I do remember the Pete's Citybuses on the 22 Winston. I don't remember the Mercs on the 22/23 though, I only recall BCC Merc minibuses on the 21A but I was in my early 20s back then and drinking and partying so it's all a bit of a blur. I tried to find some pictures but can't.

Mike you obviously didn't drink enough back then as your memory has survived better than mine. It was the 21A BCC used them on, I thought there was another route as well, as I seem to remember there were 8-10 Merc minis @ BCC

Found a few pics to go with the topic of conversation, can't find any BCC Merc minis though....

City Buslines:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/5374075352/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4930676728/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4561078845/

Central Liner:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4930620794/

[PM]

Such an interesting period of time.... shame I didn't see much of it.... The limits of my memory are BCC nationals on the 9, ludlows nationals on the 002, some travel merry hill stuff, H.. LOM scanias, lynxes and the introduction of b6s on the 44. Plus remember pattersons as well. And midland red west in the black country.

Can't believe there used to be an X64 to Corby though... would have loved to have had a ride on that...

[winston]

Such an interesting period of time.... shame I didn't see much of it.... The limits of my memory are BCC nationals on the 9, ludlows nationals on the 002, some travel merry hill stuff, H.. LOM scanias, lynxes and the introduction of b6s on the 44. Plus remember pattersons as well. And midland red west in the black country.

Can't believe there used to be an X64 to Corby though... would have loved to have had a ride on that...

The early 90's was far more interesting than now, for the variety of competing operators & vehicle types, numerous WMT takeovers / garage closures etc

[Mike K]

Thanks for the replies.
Harborne was a bit of a Leyland National spotters paradise in the 90s with Central, City buslines, as well as Ludlows and Falcon on the 11 route all using them. Did Quinton garage ever run Nationals as I do not recall ever catching a WMT one in Harborne?

BCC with new merc minis? Would love to see a picture of that.

Pete's ran the 22 for a while as well didn't they?

I'm pretty sure BCC acquired a batch of Merc 609D's that were used on the 22/23 in 1992/3? Can't remember the registrations of them to double check.

Pete's also competed on the 22 with Volvo Citybuses, I think the 22 survived in to Go-Ahead ownership

No Quinton Garage has never operated Leyland Nationals to my knowledge

Yes I do remember the Pete's Citybuses on the 22 Winston. I don't remember the Mercs on the 22/23 though, I only recall BCC Merc minibuses on the 21A but I was in my early 20s back then and drinking and partying so it's all a bit of a blur. I tried to find some pictures but can't.

Mike you obviously didn't drink enough back then as your memory has survived better than mine. It was the 21A BCC used them on, I thought there was another route as well, as I seem to remember there were 8-10 Merc minis @ BCC

Found a few pics to go with the topic of conversation, can't find any BCC Merc minis though....

City Buslines:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/5374075352/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4930676728/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4561078845/

Central Liner:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4930620794/

Cheers Winston. Love the hi-tech destination equipment on 1505.

[Liverpool Street]

Such an interesting period of time.... shame I didn't see much of it.... The limits of my memory are BCC nationals on the 9, ludlows nationals on the 002, some travel merry hill stuff, H.. LOM scanias, lynxes and the introduction of b6s on the 44. Plus remember pattersons as well. And midland red west in the black country.

Can't believe there used to be an X64 to Corby though... would have loved to have had a ride on that...

The early 90's was far more interesting than now, for the variety of competing operators & vehicle types, numerous WMT takeovers / garage closures etc

Ha, imagine if this forum was around back then... every topic will be like the Pensnett Thread!!!

Anyone remember the 44S, 44T etc in detail? (Without cheating ;) )

[busfan2847]

Thanks for the replies.
Harborne was a bit of a Leyland National spotters paradise in the 90s with Central, City buslines, as well as Ludlows and Falcon on the 11 route all using them. Did Quinton garage ever run Nationals as I do not recall ever catching a WMT one in Harborne?

BCC with new merc minis? Would love to see a picture of that.

Pete's ran the 22 for a while as well didn't they?

I'm pretty sure BCC acquired a batch of Merc 609D's that were used on the 22/23 in 1992/3? Can't remember the registrations of them to double check.

Pete's also competed on the 22 with Volvo Citybuses, I think the 22 survived in to Go-Ahead ownership

No Quinton Garage has never operated Leyland Nationals to my knowledge

Yes I do remember the Pete's Citybuses on the 22 Winston. I don't remember the Mercs on the 22/23 though, I only recall BCC Merc minibuses on the 21A but I was in my early 20s back then and drinking and partying so it's all a bit of a blur. I tried to find some pictures but can't.

Mike you obviously didn't drink enough back then as your memory has survived better than mine. It was the 21A BCC used them on, I thought there was another route as well, as I seem to remember there were 8-10 Merc minis @ BCC

Found a few pics to go with the topic of conversation, can't find any BCC Merc minis though....

City Buslines:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/5374075352/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4930676728/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4561078845/

Central Liner:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4930620794/

The Mercs were K25-29, 31, 32WND and it looks like all of them ended up with Luton & District. They did not last very long at all with Birmingham Coach Co!

[Tony]

Such an interesting period of time.... shame I didn't see much of it.... The limits of my memory are BCC nationals on the 9, ludlows nationals on the 002, some travel merry hill stuff, H.. LOM scanias, lynxes and the introduction of b6s on the 44. Plus remember pattersons as well. And midland red west in the black country.

Can't believe there used to be an X64 to Corby though... would have loved to have had a ride on that...

The early 90's was far more interesting than now, for the variety of competing operators & vehicle types, numerous WMT takeovers / garage closures etc

Ha, imagine if this forum was around back then... every topic will be like the Pensnett Thread!!!

Anyone remember the 44S, 44T etc in detail? (Without cheating ;) )

Lots of operators, so lots of colours, but not much vehicle variety. TWM were almost all National/Lynx/Fleetline/Metrobus while every other operator seemed to be Leyland Nationals. Petes was about the only non-National fleet

[Kevin]

Anyone remember the 44S, 44T etc in detail? (Without cheating ;) )

Depends what you mean by "in detail"... Off the top of me head the daytime services were 44S and 44T every half hour each, from Stephenson st/Navigation st via Bath Row, Edgbaston Park Rd, University, Vincent Drive, Selly Oak, Bristol Road, Weoley Castle, current 29 route to Northfield, South Rd (maybe?) to Northfield station, current 27 route to Turves Green then 44T to Thurlbridge rd(?) and 44S via Longbridge station and Bristol Road South to Great Park. 44 was as above but only to Northfield station, 44B as per 44 but using Broad St instead of Bath Row

To be confirmed by looking at the maps I've got when I get home

[Liverpool Street]

Yep, 44T to Thurlstone Road (basically very near the old 47 Sunday terminus)

[winston]

Such an interesting period of time.... shame I didn't see much of it.... The limits of my memory are BCC nationals on the 9, ludlows nationals on the 002, some travel merry hill stuff, H.. LOM scanias, lynxes and the introduction of b6s on the 44. Plus remember pattersons as well. And midland red west in the black country.

Can't believe there used to be an X64 to Corby though... would have loved to have had a ride on that...

The early 90's was far more interesting than now, for the variety of competing operators & vehicle types, numerous WMT takeovers / garage closures etc

Ha, imagine if this forum was around back then... every topic will be like the Pensnett Thread!!!

Anyone remember the 44S, 44T etc in detail? (Without cheating ;) )

Lots of operators, so lots of colours, but not much vehicle variety. TWM were almost all National/Lynx/Fleetline/Metrobus while every other operator seemed to be Leyland Nationals. Petes was about the only non-National fleet

A large proportion of competing operators favoured Leyland Nationals, but there were still quite a few minibuses i.e. Metroriders & Mercs within the WMT fleet plus still some Iveco Daily's in the early nineties. Stevensons operated a varied fleet until takeover by WMT of breadvans and some more unusual larger bus types. Also Sandwell Travel had some unusual buses within their fleet. BCC & Yourbus operated DAF/Ikarus & Yourbus also have Optare Delta's along with the Ikarus, Yourbus also had the Leyland Tigers & Volvo B10M Plaxton Derwents. I can't remember when Claribels stopped using coaches on their services and started switching to buses i.e DAF/Optare Delta's

[fleetline6477]

PET ran on 22 in between school duties for King Edwards, Bartley Green.