London Buses.

[JoNi]

Minimum wage levels courtesy of Mayor Khan
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38389387

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:



Route               Current Operator          New Operator               PVR     Vehicles         

131                   London United              London General                21      2010 Euro V diesel double deck

411                   Quality Line                   Quality Line                        6     New Euro VI diesel single deck

465                   Quality Line                   Quality Line                     tbc     Single deck (details TBC)

605                   London Sovereign         Sullivan Buses                   2     2009 Euro V diesel double deck

628/688             Sullivan Buses              Sullivan Buses                   6     2009 Euro V diesel double deck

632                   Metroline                       Metroline                            3     2009 Euro IV diesel double deck

653/683             Sullivan Buses              Sullivan Buses                   5     2009 Euro V diesel double deck



Contracts will commence on the following dates:



1st July 2017: Route 465.

2nd September 2017: Routes 605, 628/688 & 653/683.

30th September 2017: Routes 131 & 411.

14th October 2017: Route 632.

[markcf83]

Re the 465-the rumour I've heard is that Mercedes Benz Citaros about to be displaced from the X26 are being considered for that route. And as for the 131-which passes Merton-I suspect it's to be run from there with something being moved out.

[Stuharris 6360]

Interestingly, from 21/01/17, the 133 and 333 are both to be operated by Brixton garage. However the 137 will now be mainly operated by Norwood garage.

Considering the 137 starts from outside Brixton garage, it is an unusual move to make.

[markcf83]

I agree. Mind you,before London General ran the 133 in 1990-when it was Liverpool Street to Tooting Broadway-it was run by Brixton then. Norwood running the bulk of the 137 would seem to be odd however they've outstationed Brixton based buses in relatively recent times and the Borismasters will no doubt continue to be maintained at Brixton.

[Other Walsall Tony]

Are the Routemasters continuing to operate on the 15H? And if so, how is this squared with DDA regulations?

[Tony]

Are the Routemasters continuing to operate on the 15H? And if so, how is this squared with DDA regulations?

You are allowed to apply to the DfT for exceptional services to use non-DDA vehicles. It is not easy to get an exemption certificate, but I would imagine if anyone was going to, it was TfL for Routemasters

[Other Walsall Tony]

You are allowed to apply to the DfT for exceptional services to use non-DDA vehicles. It is not easy to get an exemption certificate, but I would imagine if anyone was going to, it was TfL for Routemasters

Thanks for that...

[Stuharris 6360]

You are allowed to apply to the DfT for exceptional services to use non-DDA vehicles. It is not easy to get an exemption certificate, but I would imagine if anyone was going to, it was TfL for Routemasters

Am sure i read also @Tony that the Routemasters are allowed because they are running additional journeys on an otherwise DDA compliant route, therefore it is allowed. If they were the sole buses on the 15, then it wouldn't be allowed.

[Stuharris 6360]

Just one tender award out today, route 266 has been awarded to Metroline from Tower Transit using vehicles currently being used on routes 17 and 217.

"The route is awarded as specified, on the basis of maintaining the current route structure. Please note that the contract is awarded on a short term basis terminating no later than December 2019, to allow for restructuring of the route in connection with the opening of the Elizabeth Line"

[markcf83]

Just spotted this myself. Presumably as it's Metroline West that were successful in winning the route it will be run from Willesden Junction garage,a short walk from Atlas Road where Tower have a base-and in respect of Tower they can make inroads into their 04 reg Volvos with the displacement of the newer buses.

[Stuharris 6360]

Recall notice issued for NRM and NB4L

https://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/expand.asp?uniqueID=C13B6DE11823BC948025808E002E1B78&freeText=Blank&tx=

[Stuharris 6360]

Thursday 9 February

The following TfL Contracts have been announced:

Route        Current Operator                 New Operator                           PVR     Vehicles         
50              Arriva London South             Arriva London South                  15         2010 Euro V hybrid double deck
66              Arriva London North             Arriva London North                  13         2009 Euro V diesel double deck
103            Stagecoach East London     Arriva London North                  14         2010 Euro V diesel double deck
130           Metrobus                             Abellio London                          11         New Euro VI diesel single deck
150            Arriva London North             Arriva London North                  15         2010 Euro V diesel double deck
175            Stagecoach East London     Arriva London North                  12         2010 Euro V diesel double deck
194            Arriva London South             Arriva London South                  14         2010 Euro V diesel double deck
250*           Arriva London South             Arriva London South                  24         2010 Euro V diesel double deck
255            Arriva London South             Arriva London South                    9        2012 Euro V diesel single deck
257            London General                    Stagecoach East London          16         2012 Euro V diesel double deck (a)
280            London General                    London General                         14         2012 Euro V hybrid double deck
289            Arriva London South             Arriva London South                  12         2011 Euro V diesel single deck (b)
314            Stagecoach Selkent             Stagecoach Selkent                  12         2012 Euro V diesel single deck
341*           Arriva London North             Arriva London North                  22         New Euro VI hybrid double deck
370            Arriva London North             Arriva London North                  11         2010 Euro V diesel double deck
410            Arriva London South             Arriva London South                  19         2012 Euro V diesel single deck (b)
621            Stagecoach Selkent             Stagecoach Selkent                    1        2012 Euro V diesel double deck
638            Stagecoach Selkent             Stagecoach Selkent                    6        2008 Euro IV diesel double deck
664            Stagecoach Selkent             Stagecoach Selkent                    2        2012 Euro V diesel double deck

* 24 hour routes.

(a) 7 vehicles allocated to route 257 will be new Euro VI hybrid.
(b) 3 vehicles allocated to route 289 and 8 allocated to route 410 will be new Euro VI diesel.

Contracts will commence on the following dates:

22nd July 2017: Route 280.
26th August 2017: Routes 50, 130, 194, 250, 255 & 410.
2nd September 2017: Routes 66, 289, 314, 638 & 664.
14th October 2017: Routes 103, 150, 175, 257, 341 & 621.
4th November 2017: Route 370.

[markcf83]

Presumably the 130 will once again fill up space in the Abellio garage at Beddington Farm. Interesting to see that Arriva have won back,after twelve years,the 103 and won the 175-both currently Stagecoach London run. Losing the 103 is Rainham's first setback since opening. Presumably the Arriva successes is down to their retaining of the 341 which will add more Wright bodied Volvo's to Tottenham garage. We will have to wait and see how it transpires....

[winston]

Presumably the 130 will once again fill up space in the Abellio garage at Beddington Farm. Interesting to see that Arriva have won back,after twelve years,the 103 and won the 175-both currently Stagecoach London run. Losing the 103 is Rainham's first setback since opening. Presumably the Arriva successes is down to their retaining of the 341 which will add more Wright bodied Volvo's to Tottenham garage. We will have to wait and see how it transpires....

Isn't Beddington Farm still down a fair bit even with the 130 after losing the 152, 157 & 434?