VERY Late running services

[trident4370]

5 11C (2 11E and one "not in service" president leading the other 4) all within 5 minutes of each other from Kings Heath at 9:45-9:50 this morning.

[trident4370]

Put it this way, I have seen worse!

[Stuharris 6360]

What i don't understand in cases like this, why dont AVL do something to regulate the service? All they seem to care about is services going into town and then they don't seem particularly interested.

They should get the garages to manage there own buses, they make a better job of it!

[trident4370]

I suppose really they had intervened, that's why one was NIS and 2 were running as E journeys, baring in mind there had been a good 15 minute gap so I suppose at that time of the morning one bus may not have been enough to cope with the Off Peakers coming out. I suspect there were delays somewhere as the usual 9:35 Joes Travel did not turn up either and that one is normally quite punctual.

[Rob H]

4903 running 10-15 minutes late with the 10:05 900 to Coventry

[Ben]

4903 running 10-15 minutes late with the 10:05 900 to Coventry

I was stood in Upper Well Street (Cov) this evening at about 4PM and unbranded 4908 (90% certain) was very closely followed by a branded 900 (didn't catch the fleet numeber) within two minutes of each other! Not sure whats going on.

Maybe this best go elsewhere...

What is the policy of NX with late running services; Are drivers permitted to skip their break to make up time? I've always wondered this but never been able to work it out.

[Tony]

4903 running 10-15 minutes late with the 10:05 900 to Coventry

I was stood in Upper Well Street (Cov) this evening at about 4PM and unbranded 4908 (90% certain) was very closely followed by a branded 900 (didn't catch the fleet numeber) within two minutes of each other! Not sure whats going on.

Maybe this best go elsewhere...

What is the policy of NX with late running services; Are drivers permitted to skip their break to make up time? I've always wondered this but never been able to work it out.

Drivers don't make decisions on what to do. If the front driver arrives late and doesn't need a break because of driving hours regulations he would be expected to return to Birmingham immediately. What he may do if he has missed his return time is press the late button on his radio, point out to AVL that another bus is immediately behind him (they should be able to see that, but may not have noticed if the controller is busy sorting out another route) and ask them to make a decision that will put him back on time.

[Ben]

Thanks very much ^ :)

[Christopher]

What are Avl up to when a service is late

[JoNi]

Ben it was 4908, I saw it in Hales Street and didn't take much notice of it until I saw 4897 almost immediately behind it.

4908 drove straight round and seemed to form the 16:04 a few minutes late.
4897 left on time at 16:40 as there is more layover given in the new schedule introduced last October.

I initially checked the times in the brand new 5/7/42/900 timetable dated 26/1/14 only to find it still has old out of date clockface 900 timetable in it with no additional layover  ???.

[Christopher]

Was there a convoy with either the 9 or 59

[domino.99]

there are convoys on the 59 most days as they run every 4-5 mins

[Christopher]

Heat is the timetable frequency of the boards could send that to me and the untimetable e journeys then the timetabled e journeys

[Rob H]

Ben it was 4908, I saw it in Hales Street and didn't take much notice of it until I saw 4897 almost immediately behind it.

4908 drove straight round and seemed to form the 16:04 a few minutes late.
4897 left on time at 16:40 as there is more layover given in the new schedule introduced last October.

I initially checked the times in the brand new 5/7/42/900 timetable dated 26/1/14 only to find it still has old out of date clockface 900 timetable in it with no additional layover  ???.

The correct 900 times are in the 900/957 timetable dated from 27/10/2013 :)

[nitromatt1]

Was there a convoy with either the 9 or 59

Yes, every day!