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Started by jack corbett, October 20, 2013, 02:14:47 PM

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Quote from: Kevin on November 01, 2013, 03:19:54 PM
My plans changed considerably when I saw 4915 in Sutton, so I caught 4916 to on the 905 to town. Man alive he put his foot down on the expressway must have been late, but yeah they can shift those buses. Saw all of 4914-4918, don't know how many more were out there or even arrived yet

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Quote from: Winston on November 01, 2013, 02:47:29 PM
Quote from: don on November 01, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
Any likelihood PB will have 15 of these and somewhere else the remaining 10? E.g. YW?

Don, As I understand it, PB are due to get the balance of the 26 outstanding

So what else will transfer - and WA will have a batch of 5 E400s in the middle of YWs big batch!!
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As it stands now PB will recieve 4914-4939 with 4698 and 4718-32 going to YW for the 35.

Then 16 or so Tridents will transfer from YW to PE (4348 and 4353 are already in service at PE) to help convert the 276/X96 aswell as busy journeys on the 120/140/241 etc with some Mercs (Most likley unrefurbed examples being withdrawn)

Also with the 26 oustanding E400's appearing to go to PB surely the Sutton Lines does not need 26 buses so maybe the remaining ones will be unbranded and will upgrade the 94 as stated by NXOD?

Tony

Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 01, 2013, 08:59:52 PM
As it stands now PB will recieve 4914-4939 with 4698 and 4718-32 going to YW for the 35.

Then 16 or so Tridents will transfer from YW to PE (4348 and 4353 are already in service at PE) to help convert the 276/X96 aswell as busy journeys on the 120/140/241 etc with some Mercs (Most likley unrefurbed examples being withdrawn)

Also with the 26 oustanding E400's appearing to go to PB surely the Sutton Lines does not need 26 buses so maybe the remaining ones will be unbranded and will upgrade the 94 as stated by NXOD?

Who says all 16 are going to YW?

Some 42xx are likely to go to WB

Nathan4775

Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 01, 2013, 08:59:52 PM
As it stands now PB will recieve 4914-4939 with 4698 and 4718-32 going to YW for the 35.

Then 16 or so Tridents will transfer from YW to PE (4348 and 4353 are already in service at PE) to help convert the 276/X96 aswell as busy journeys on the 120/140/241 etc with some Mercs (Most likley unrefurbed examples being withdrawn)

Also with the 26 oustanding E400's appearing to go to PB surely the Sutton Lines does not need 26 buses so maybe the remaining ones will be unbranded and will upgrade the 94 as stated by NXOD?

shame 4698 is not staying at PB
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Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 01, 2013, 09:01:58 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 01, 2013, 08:59:52 PM
As it stands now PB will recieve 4914-4939 with 4698 and 4718-32 going to YW for the 35.

Then 16 or so Tridents will transfer from YW to PE (4348 and 4353 are already in service at PE) to help convert the 276/X96 aswell as busy journeys on the 120/140/241 etc with some Mercs (Most likley unrefurbed examples being withdrawn)

Also with the 26 oustanding E400's appearing to go to PB surely the Sutton Lines does not need 26 buses so maybe the remaining ones will be unbranded and will upgrade the 94 as stated by NXOD?

shame 4698 is not staying at PB

I think it is staying, posted in the YW thread is that YW are only expecting 15 x E400's

John

Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2013, 09:01:39 PM
Some 42xx are likely to go to WB

I would like to see some of the 428*s to transfer over, as they have spent all thier lives at Perry Barr, as long as the ex-Dundees stay put

CL

Weren't we told something about Walsall Garage getting new E200's?
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Quote from: clayderman on November 01, 2013, 09:21:09 PM
Weren't we told something about Walsall Garage getting new E200's?
She said that WA will bid for 25 E200's
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Trident 4609

Quote from: clayderman on November 01, 2013, 09:21:09 PM
Weren't we told something about Walsall Garage getting new E200's?

Yes they are trying to get some E200's next year to replace B6's and B10L's on the 34/8/9

nitromatt1

Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 01, 2013, 08:59:52 PM
As it stands now PB will recieve 4914-4939 with 4698 and 4718-32 going to YW for the 35.

Then 16 or so Tridents will transfer from YW to PE (4348 and 4353 are already in service at PE) to help convert the 276/X96 aswell as busy journeys on the 120/140/241 etc with some Mercs (Most likley unrefurbed examples being withdrawn)

Also with the 26 oustanding E400's appearing to go to PB surely the Sutton Lines does not need 26 buses so maybe the remaining ones will be unbranded and will upgrade the 94 as stated by NXOD?

Pensnett are not getting 16 Tridents Nathan

pb2012

Quote from: Dylan4579 on November 01, 2013, 09:27:28 PM
Quote from: clayderman on November 01, 2013, 09:21:09 PM
Weren't we told something about Walsall Garage getting new E200's?
She said that WA will bid for 25 E200's
Excuse me for not understanding but why do garage's have to bid for buses doesn't NXWM know what buses need replacing or do they just wait for them to permanantly break down?
I would have thought that the remaining b6's would be replaced with equivalent e200's and the remaining older single deckers replaced with either cascades or new buses?

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Quote from: pb2012 on November 02, 2013, 09:56:47 AM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on November 01, 2013, 09:27:28 PM
Quote from: clayderman on November 01, 2013, 09:21:09 PM
Weren't we told something about Walsall Garage getting new E200's?
She said that WA will bid for 25 E200's
Excuse me for not understanding but why do garage's have to bid for buses doesn't NXWM know what buses need replacing or do they just wait for them to permanantly break down?
I would have thought that the remaining b6's would be replaced with equivalent e200's and the remaining older single deckers replaced with either cascades or new buses?

Well that was what they said at Walsall Garage yesterday

D10

Quote from: pb2012 on November 02, 2013, 09:56:47 AM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on November 01, 2013, 09:27:28 PM
Quote from: clayderman on November 01, 2013, 09:21:09 PM
Weren't we told something about Walsall Garage getting new E200's?
She said that WA will bid for 25 E200's
Excuse me for not understanding but why do garage's have to bid for buses doesn't NXWM know what buses need replacing or do they just wait for them to permanantly break down?
I would have thought that the remaining b6's would be replaced with equivalent e200's and the remaining older single deckers replaced with either cascades or new buses?

Often the local garage management teams are asked to bid for buses rather than them just be allocated there by Head Office. This is done so that new vehicles are used on the routes where they can improve revenue, the service offered to passengers etc.

So for example on the Darlaston corridor, as these routes are subject to a lot of competition, you could argue that they should be allocated new vehicles to improve on the vehicles already on it. This may lead to more customers using NXWM as the vehicles look newer and smarter, and brand new vehicles should be more reliable, ensuring that the full service can operate leaving less gaps in the service for competitors.

Personally though after the welcome return of full size single deckers on the 34/38/39, I think it would be a backward step to go back to midibuses.

winston

Quote from: D10 on November 02, 2013, 01:10:38 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on November 02, 2013, 09:56:47 AM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on November 01, 2013, 09:27:28 PM
Quote from: clayderman on November 01, 2013, 09:21:09 PM
Weren't we told something about Walsall Garage getting new E200's?
She said that WA will bid for 25 E200's
Excuse me for not understanding but why do garage's have to bid for buses doesn't NXWM know what buses need replacing or do they just wait for them to permanantly break down?
I would have thought that the remaining b6's would be replaced with equivalent e200's and the remaining older single deckers replaced with either cascades or new buses?

Often the local garage management teams are asked to bid for buses rather than them just be allocated there by Head Office. This is done so that new vehicles are used on the routes where they can improve revenue, the service offered to passengers etc.

So for example on the Darlaston corridor, as these routes are subject to a lot of competition, you could argue that they should be allocated new vehicles to improve on the vehicles already on it. This may lead to more customers using NXWM as the vehicles look newer and smarter, and brand new vehicles should be more reliable, ensuring that the full service can operate leaving less gaps in the service for competitors.

Personally though after the welcome return of full size single deckers on the 34/38/39, I think it would be a backward step to go back to midibuses.

That bit did cross my mind, but it may be no full size single deckers are on order for 2014

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