VDL/DAF sb200

[mranon]

Mercedes seem to have mastered the perfect bus engine. A lot of NXWMs Mercs have completed over 1 million miles on one engine, and Simon Dunn was praising the Mercedes engined Solos recently. Varios seemed to go on forever as well as tony quoted

this may be the case but look at the facts here - iirc isnt the mercs fitted with a 12 litre straight six normally aspirated engine? if so compared to anything in the last 10 years, engines are bercoming smaller heavily turbocharged with added strain of emissions controls etc. travel on a merc it doesnt sound at all stressed. travel on a long dart/excel/b6 from same era they working their balls off. maintainance is also a key issue to longevity too. i seen b10ms with astronomical mileages without any major issues too.

[Bob]

Mercedes seem to have mastered the perfect bus engine. A lot of NXWMs Mercs have completed over 1 million miles on one engine, and Simon Dunn was praising the Mercedes engined Solos recently. Varios seemed to go on forever as well as tony quoted

this may be the case but look at the facts here - iirc isnt the mercs fitted with a 12 litre straight six normally aspirated engine? if so compared to anything in the last 10 years, engines are bercoming smaller heavily turbocharged with added strain of emissions controls etc. travel on a merc it doesnt sound at all stressed. travel on a long dart/excel/b6 from same era they working their balls off. maintainance is also a key issue to longevity too. i seen b10ms with astronomical mileages without any major issues too.

Is that why darts etc are so noisy making them a bit unpleasant/unsuitable for longer distance services? And sb200s very loud when travelling at speed? I was on fgd2 ggu last night coming back for walsall ( the rough one with threadbare old arriva trim and at least two other types of seat moquette on different cushions towards tge back lol) and it sounded like it was about to blow up on the 50 stretch along the a34

[bwsau cymru]

Whats the newest daf commanders on the road, ive seen 57 plates any newer?

[Cheese]

Don't think there are any newer Commanders than 57-plate, there are two 57-plates at Arriva Midlands and 7 at Arriva Yorkshire.  There are quite a number of 07-plate Pulsars so I guess the Commander body was already being replaced, don't know if these were stock vehicles at all?

[tphi12000]

Whats the newest daf commanders on the road, ive seen 57 plates any newer?

I believe 3741 was the last one made

[Bob]

I think cannocks pair were dealer stock given their interiors same with the centros although one has arriva trim

[tphi12000]

I think cannocks pair were dealer stock given their interiors same with the centros although one has arriva trim

I believe they were all new to Leicester

[bwsau cymru]

I agree mercedes are masters of the engine the citaros power is incrediable I think and the buikd quality is brillient, but the new ler mercedes engine are kuch smaller now at 6740 cc so does size matter anymore? I personally think that the gearbox of aj engine alhas so much t do with it and the amou t of gears a vehicle has! For example diamonds new eclipses have the same engine and the bx09 centros the centros are really quick the eclipses slow, thats all down th gear boxes I think (personal option)

[Liverpool Street]

I agree mercedes are masters of the engine the citaros power is incrediable I think and the buikd quality is brillient, but the new ler mercedes engine are kuch smaller now at 6740 cc so does size matter anymore? I personally think that the gearbox of aj engine alhas so much t do with it and the amou t of gears a vehicle has! For example diamonds new eclipses have the same engine and the bx09 centros the centros are really quick the eclipses slow, thats all down th gear boxes I think (personal option)

Its all about torque delivery at what revs, so basing views on CC and horsepower alone results in invalid views.

[John]

I think cannocks pair were dealer stock given their interiors same with the centros although one has arriva trim

I believe they were all new to Leicester

Yes they were both new to Leicester

[tphi12000]

I think cannocks pair were dealer stock given their interiors same with the centros although one has arriva trim

I believe they were all new to Leicester

Yes they were both new to Leicester

yes along with the centros also dealer stock