Green Bus Funding 2014

[Stu]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151863805428631&id=98373293630

Posted today on Facebook:

At the risk of turning this into the Norman Baker Announcements page, another round of green bus funding has been announced today. £2.4million is being made available to fund 23 new green buses each in Manchester and Sunderland, another seven for York plus a pilot scheme to convert a diesel bus to electric propulsion, two new buses for Oxfordshire, conversion of five buses to run on natural gas in Sheffield and exhaust gas treatment for 29 buses in the West Midlands and five each for the Chiltern District of Buckinghamshire and Swale Borough in Kent.

No further mention of hybrid buses for Coventry, but looks like someone here in the West Mids is going to see 29 buses upgraded to meet current emissions requirements...

[winston]

Not all of the original £20 million fund for Greenbus fund 4 has been awarded, only £11.644 Million worth of grants were announced in May/have been awarded to date.

[Stuharris 6360]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151863805428631&id=98373293630

Posted today on Facebook:

At the risk of turning this into the Norman Baker Announcements page, another round of green bus funding has been announced today. £2.4million is being made available to fund 23 new green buses each in Manchester and Sunderland, another seven for York plus a pilot scheme to convert a diesel bus to electric propulsion, two new buses for Oxfordshire, conversion of five buses to run on natural gas in Sheffield and exhaust gas treatment for 29 buses in the West Midlands and five each for the Chiltern District of Buckinghamshire and Swale Borough in Kent.

No further mention of hybrid buses for Coventry, but looks like someone here in the West Mids is going to see 29 buses upgraded to meet current emissions requirements...

Wonder what buses will receive the exhaust gas treatment?

[nitromatt1]

What is exhaust gas treatment? How does it affect a bus?

[Liverpool Street]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151863805428631&id=98373293630

Posted today on Facebook:

At the risk of turning this into the Norman Baker Announcements page, another round of green bus funding has been announced today. £2.4million is being made available to fund 23 new green buses each in Manchester and Sunderland, another seven for York plus a pilot scheme to convert a diesel bus to electric propulsion, two new buses for Oxfordshire, conversion of five buses to run on natural gas in Sheffield and exhaust gas treatment for 29 buses in the West Midlands and five each for the Chiltern District of Buckinghamshire and Swale Borough in Kent.

No further mention of hybrid buses for Coventry, but looks like someone here in the West Mids is going to see 29 buses upgraded to meet current emissions requirements...

Wonder what buses will receive the exhaust gas treatment?

Do they mean Presidents to be allowed into city after treatment? Or Tridents Euro5/6'd?

[winston]

What is exhaust gas treatment? How does it affect a bus?

Just reduces exhaust gas emissions, if like the example below the buses chosen will need to have adblue

http://www.bosch-automotivetechnology.com/en/com/component_com/PT_PC_DS_Exhaust-Gas-Treatment_PT_PC_Diesel_1537.html

[richie]

There are 29 Double Decks at PN that use ad blu, maybe the enviros are a contender

[winston]

There are 29 Double Decks at PN that use ad blu, maybe the enviros are a contender

I did think that as well

[nitromatt1]

There are 29 Double Decks at PN that use ad blu, maybe the enviros are a contender

I did think that as well

That was my thought as well, but I didn't think they'd choose vehicles so young

[Stu]

There are 29 Double Decks at PN that use ad blu, maybe the enviros are a contender

I did think that as well

That was my thought as well, but I didn't think they'd choose vehicles so young

You're all assuming it is NX buses that will receive the treatment, could be any operator. ;)

[nitromatt1]

There are 29 Double Decks at PN that use ad blu, maybe the enviros are a contender

I did think that as well

That was my thought as well, but I didn't think they'd choose vehicles so young

You're all assuming it is NX buses that will receive the treatment, could be any operator. ;)

It would be very strange if it wasn't.

[the trainbasher]

Could be Rotala and the Plaxton Centros for all we know

Or Perry Barrs E400s

[Stu]

What I'm saying is, with regards to National Express buses, with the exception of the Optare Spectras, Optare Solos, Plaxton Presidents, Mercedes O405s, Dennis Darts, Volvo B6LEs and Volvo B10Ls, all their fleet is at least Euro3 compliant already, which is at present the minimum requirement for regular frequency services within the Birmingham SQP designated area. And most of the above listed bus types are already near their withdrawal date. And as NX is in a better financial position, seeing as a further brand new 300 odd new buses are due for purchase and delivery within the next couple of years, which will further withdraw most of the older vehicles, I fail to see why they would waste money on 'upgrading' older vehicles when there is no necessity to. Even if the minimum requirements for the Birmingham SQP change next year, vehicles can still cascade elsewhere.

[Tony]

What I'm saying is, with regards to National Express buses, with the exception of the Optare Spectras, Optare Solos, Plaxton Presidents, Mercedes O405s, Dennis Darts, Volvo B6LEs and Volvo B10Ls, all their fleet is at least Euro3 compliant already, which is at present the minimum requirement for regular frequency services within the Birmingham SQP designated area. And most of the above listed bus types are already near their withdrawal date. And as NX is in a better financial position, seeing as a further brand new 300 odd new buses are due for purchase and delivery within the next couple of years, which will further withdraw most of the older vehicles, I fail to see why they would waste money on 'upgrading' older vehicles when there is no necessity to. Even if the minimum requirements for the Birmingham SQP change next year, vehicles can still cascade elsewhere.

And you could use the same argument for Rotala who may even have a higher percentage of their fleet at Euro3 than NX, and not many other operators have 29 vehicles!

Perhaps it is just because an operator wants the good publicity

[nitromatt1]

What I'm saying is, with regards to National Express buses, with the exception of the Optare Spectras, Optare Solos, Plaxton Presidents, Mercedes O405s, Dennis Darts, Volvo B6LEs and Volvo B10Ls, all their fleet is at least Euro3 compliant already, which is at present the minimum requirement for regular frequency services within the Birmingham SQP designated area. And most of the above listed bus types are already near their withdrawal date. And as NX is in a better financial position, seeing as a further brand new 300 odd new buses are due for purchase and delivery within the next couple of years, which will further withdraw most of the older vehicles, I fail to see why they would waste money on 'upgrading' older vehicles when there is no necessity to. Even if the minimum requirements for the Birmingham SQP change next year, vehicles can still cascade elsewhere.

And you could use the same argument for Rotala who may even have a higher percentage of their fleet at Euro3 than NX, and not many other operators have 29 vehicles!

Perhaps it is just because an operator wants the good publicity

Is it stated that the 29 buses receiving treatment will be from the same operator? It could be a selection from different operators.