Johnsons

[2206]

New X20: Stratford Upon Avon to Coventry via Henley In Arden, Shirley, Solihull and Meriden, from 2nd September 2019.
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/New%20X20%20Solihull%20via%20Shirley.pdf

[Trident 4194]

New X20: Stratford Upon Avon to Coventry via Henley In Arden, Shirley, Solihull and Meriden, from 2nd September 2019.
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/New%20X20%20Solihull%20via%20Shirley.pdf

Look forward to the date

[Pat]

New X20: Stratford Upon Avon to Coventry via Henley In Arden, Shirley, Solihull and Meriden, from 2nd September 2019.
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/New%20X20%20Solihull%20via%20Shirley.pdf

Like how they start/end certain early morning/late evening services at the depot presumably to avoid dead mileage.

[winston]

Like how they start/end certain early morning/late evening services at the depot presumably to avoid dead mileage.

It's so they can claim fuel duty rebate on the dead mileage, but only if the bus is still in service.

[Stu]

New X20: Stratford Upon Avon to Coventry via Henley In Arden, Shirley, Solihull and Meriden, from 2nd September 2019.
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/New%20X20%20Solihull%20via%20Shirley.pdf

Interesting, looks like they're combining the 20 and 82 together. I presume from Shirley (as the timing point is listed as Morrisons) this will go via Solihull Road, Sharmans Cross Road and Streetsbrook Road to Solihull station.

Like how they start/end certain early morning/late evening services at the depot presumably to avoid dead mileage.

They did that with the 'old' X20 route (Birmingham to Stratford), would need to check but I think they do with the current 20 service too.

[James4368]

SN65 OJA is on the 82. Left Solihull Town Centre 11:50 to the train station.

[Busboy105]

Does anyone know what happened to the old X20 MMC deckers?

[Dylanbusboy45]

Does anyone know what happened to the old X20 MMC deckers?

They've still got them, and they still do the X20 (except it's the Coventry to Stratford one!)

[Busboy105]

Why was the old X20 withdrawn? It had decent loadings.

[Tony]

Why was the old X20 withdrawn? It had decent loadings.

Obviously didn't have decent loading or it wouldn't have been withdrawn

[Stu]

Why was the old X20 withdrawn? It had decent loadings.

From Johnsons website:
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news/145/bus-service-changes/

With regards to our X20 service, please see below for further information as to why we have had to make these changes.

Unfortunately passenger numbers are too low for us to continue commercially operating a Monday to Saturday service into Birmingham City Centre and congestion along the Stratford Road is causing the service to have timetable reliability issues.

I don't know where you used to see 'decent loadings' but on the occasions I used to see their X20 buses on Stratford Road in Sparkbrook there were rarely more than a handful of people on board. And I would agree with their reasoning on reliability.

[Pat]

Why was the old X20 withdrawn? It had decent loadings.

Most of those passengers were probably pass holders in which case, Johnsons wouldn't be making any money from.

[OH25]

There are a few bus stops in Coventry with X20 on them now, mainly by the Morrisons near Allesley. Is that a replacement for the withdrawn service or a completely different route?

[Stu]

There are a few bus stops in Coventry with X20 on them now, mainly by the Morrisons near Allesley. Is that a replacement for the withdrawn service or a completely different route?

The 'new' X20 service has replaced the 82 between Solihull and Coventry.

[B61 ANDREW]

They've still got them, and they still do the X20 (except it's the Coventry to Stratford one!)

They are also used on the Stratford park and ride services.