Acocks Green Garage

[Michael Bevan]

6121 now has a megarear advert for Waverley Studio College.

[BBS]

Its been a year or more since 7515-7528 came to AG.It was a great time going on them on the 4/5. Would be insane to see them again at AG.

[Jack]

Its been a year or more since 7515-7528 came to AG.It was a great time going on them on the 4/5. Would be insane to see them again at AG.

Why would it be? The only difference between those and the 67** is the gearbox, age and that the newer lot are Smart Hybrids... The 4 and 5 were better with B7TL's than those...

[2206]

Why would it be? The only difference between those and the 67** is the gearbox, age and that the newer lot are Smart Hybrids... The 4 and 5 were better with B7TL's than those...

No USB plugs as well.
I was wondering does the X20 withdrawl mean some of the platinums at BC will be spare and used elsewhere, do the revised X21/X22 not need as many?
Also 7536 was on loan to AG for a short while.

[Jack]

No USB plugs as well.
I was wondering does the X20 mean some of the platinums at BC will be spare and used elsewhere, or not?

Aren't the X21 and X22 going to be requiring more than they currently do?

[Steve3229vp]

Aren't the X21 and X22 going to be requiring more than they currently do?

At first glance at the X21/X22 timetables it looks like they will interwork at the Woodgate end and a quick calculation is that the PVR is about 11 buses whereas the present PVR on the X20/X21/X22 is 16 buses. With differences in peak hours I would estimate the saving of vehicles is about 4 buses

[Jack]

At first glance at the X21/X22 timetables it looks like they will interwork at the Woodgate end and a quick calculation is that the PVR is about 11 buses whereas the present PVR on the X20/X21/X22 is 16 buses. With differences in peak hours I would estimate the saving of vehicles is about 4 buses

6880-6889 are currently branded which is 10 so I doubt they'll be going anywhere, if anything BC needs spare Platinums because E400's are regulars on the X12/X70 during the week I've noticed...

[mesub]

I doubt they'll be going anywhere. There are frequently generic '66 platinums on the X20/21/22 (not terrible, at least they're platinums), so there's obviously a need to keep them.

Why would it be? The only difference between those and the 67** is the gearbox, age and that the newer lot are Smart Hybrids... The 4 and 5 were better with B7TL's than those...

If you want to get slightly more in depth, they're not stop-start and the seats are different to subsequent batches.

This does seem slightly off topic though, talking about BC buses in an AG thread.

[Trident 4194]

One thing that is certain in life... eventually the 11A and 11C will be run by the oldest vehicles in the fleet. Loads of Alx 400 b7tl on there today

[MW]

One thing that is certain in life... eventually the 11A and 11C will be run by the oldest vehicles in the fleet. Loads of Alx 400 b7tl on there today

It has the highest vehicle requirement in the company and faces no low emission zones. The nature of the Outer Circle means buses will always be pinched and swapped when required elsewhere.

It'd be nice if 4635-4679 became the permanent allocation again... but those days are gone.

[BBS]

It has the highest vehicle requirement in the company and faces no low emission zones. The nature of the Outer Circle means buses will always be pinched and swapped when required elsewhere.

It'd be nice if 4635-4679 became the permanent allocation again... but those days are gone.

Now you even randomly see Omnilink's and E200 mmc on outer circle.

[don]

Just to try and put things in context, a snapshot of the 11A and 11C from Bus Times a few mins ago showed:-

11C - 9 x 61xx; 9 x 46xx Gemini; 2 x 44/45xx Gemini; 3 x 42/43xx ALX B7
11A - 7 x 61xx; 5 x 46xx Gemini; 4 x 44/45xx Gemini; 1 x 42/43xx ALX B7

The Geminis include 4475; 4498; 4499 and the ALX 4301. Overall, 20 Geminis, 16 MMC and 4 ALX B7s.

I think this is a fairly typical split from my observations with just an increase in the peak (I haven't looked at that for a while).

[2206]

Now you even randomly see Omnilink's and E200 mmc on outer circle.

Not that i've seen
Usually B7TL ALX400/Gemini and Crimson E400 MMC, 6701 was out on Perry Barr - Acocks Green via Fox & Goose all day on Sunday I think as well. It can sees any AG double decker basically.
Like a lot of non platinum double decker routes at Perry Barr/BC that can see any double decker (with the exception of the 55XX normally restricted to 61/63's).

[Pat]

Now you even randomly see Omnilink's and E200 mmc on outer circle.

Never seen either of those on there.

[Tony]

Never seen either of those on there.

Every so often one will venture out on one of the short afternoon peak boards, but it is very rarae