Wolverhampton Garage

[Solo1]

2001 now in for the new colours, 2002 should be joining it soon.

Will these be converted  to electric/ or gas as going to be in the new livery 

[Tony]

Will these be converted  to electric/ or gas as going to be in the new livery

No. Why would you convert a bus to gas when you are going zero emissions

[Solo1]

No. Why would you convert a bus to gas when you are going zero emission

When is all the zero emissions was It in 5 years if so why paint them

[Tony]

When is all the zero emissions was It in 5 years if so why paint them

2030 - 2022 gives just under 8 years

[Bus_user_jay]

2001 now in for the new colours, 2002 should be joining it soon.

Does this mean all vehicles are going to be painted into a new livery? What's going to happen to Platinum livery and branding? I really liked the Crimson livery 😟

[karl724223]

Wolves open day 14th August 2022 all welcome
Owners of buses or stalls needed
Email
Mark.wood@nationalexpress.com
Or
Dave.taylor@nationalexpress.com

[Westy]

Wolves open day 14th August 2022 all welcome
Owners of buses or stalls needed
Email
Mark.wood@nationalexpress.com
Or
Dave.taylor@nationalexpress.com

Sounds good!

[Stu]

Wolves open day 14th August 2022 all welcome
Owners of buses or stalls needed
Email
Mark.wood@nationalexpress.com
Or
Dave.taylor@nationalexpress.com

Could you add this to the forum calendar please?

[Tony]

reinstated 4572 out on the 59

[BN]

reinstated 4572 out on the 59

Yes, sounding really good too. Looking for the next project now.

[wulfrun]

Will it still have "Proud to serve the city if Wolverhampton" stickers after repaint?

Hopefully not.

Given the lack of commitment NXWM have shown towards Wolverhampton over the past 6 years – I hope for NXWM sake that slogan goes ASAP

"Wolverhampton – where old buses retire for one last day in the sun"

• NX Bus UK love to boast about their "leadership in sustainable transport" when winning contracts to supply the likes of Warner Brothers Studios in Hertfordshire, with electric buses, but provides nothing but excuses for failing to supply a single new vehicle in the past five and a half years for their commercial enterprise in the City of Wolverhampton.
   
• Wolverhampton has the only WMCA backed Bus Advanced Quality Partnership / Enhanced Partnership Zone that sees Zero use of NX Zero emission buses.
  
  
• Wolverhampton AQPS Euro 6 emission deadline date delayed by 16 months to 24^th April 2022 at NXWM request, back in 2018, when regulators were in consultation with operators over the original proposals for Wolverhampton AQPS released in 2017.
  
  
• NXWM is the only operator in Wolverhampton that does not meet AQPS Emission Standards, where on weekdays around 42 vehicles with an average age of 18 years provide 22% to 29% of journeys for 31 routes that use the AQPS facilities that fail to meet emission requirements. Where the worst offending routes, also serve many economically deprived communities in Wolverhampton, thus providing them with the worst air quality too.
  
  
• The average age of vehicles used for public service is 11 years 9 months, 2nd worst after Acocks Green with 11 years 11 months
  
  
• With NX Bus UK announcing a ban on all new diesel and hybrid vehicles from Feb 2020, and no investment for Zero Emission Infrastructure installations for Park Lane in the foreseeable future, means WMT Ltd will continue to cascade end of life diesel vehicles from other garages into Wolverhampton. Notably from Coventry, Birmingham and Walsall as and when new zero emission vehicles are delivered to these garages. If Park Lane receive their first Zero Emission vehicles by 2026 - it will be 10 years since a new vehicle has been delivered to Wolverhampton.
  
  
• In attempt to pretend NXWM are doing something for Wolverhampton over the coming years, buses cascaded to Wolverhampton will receive a new grey livery, similar to the livery WMT Ltd have spent the past 8 years marketing to the public as a livery that represents "high quality", Platinum service.
  
  
• The smallest Borough in WM County and the only borough in Black Country NXWM refuse to support with Low Fare Zone since inception in 2017.
  
  
• NXWM provide bus solutions between key city district centres that are quicker to walk in 30-40 minutes due to the need to use 2 buses paying £4(.60) when the journey should take less than 12 mins on a short hop ticket. Where if you do take the bus, there is a 23% chance your vehicle will be over 18 years old and fail to meet City of Wolverhampton emission standards.
  
  
• NXWM provide a citywide network that has seen journeys cut by 12% since COVID lockdowns ended in Summer 2021.
  
  
• Newest PL vehicles Enviro400 MMC Platinum of 2016 vintage are allocated to D8/X8 and 529 corridors, where they spend more time and mileage outside of Wolverhampton than within, and also charge higher fares covering the shorter distances travelled within Wolverhampton, on the same route, operated by the same vehicle that is based in Wolverhampton.

Image Source: Express and Star

[j789]

Hopefully not.

Given the lack of commitment NXWM have shown towards Wolverhampton over the past 6 years – I hope for NXWM sake that slogan goes ASAP

"Wolverhampton – where old buses retire for one last day in the sun"

• NX Bus UK love to boast about their "leadership in sustainable transport" when winning contracts to supply the likes of Warner Brothers Studios in Hertfordshire, with electric buses, but provides nothing but excuses for failing to supply a single new vehicle in the past five and a half years for their commercial enterprise in the City of Wolverhampton.
   
• Wolverhampton has the only WMCA backed Bus Advanced Quality Partnership / Enhanced Partnership Zone that sees Zero use of NX Zero emission buses.
  
  
• Wolverhampton AQPS Euro 6 emission deadline date delayed by 16 months to 24^th April 2022 at NXWM request, back in 2018, when regulators were in consultation with operators over the original proposals for Wolverhampton AQPS released in 2017.
  
  
• NXWM is the only operator in Wolverhampton that does not meet AQPS Emission Standards, where on weekdays around 42 vehicles with an average age of 18 years provide 22% to 29% of journeys for 31 routes that use the AQPS facilities that fail to meet emission requirements. Where the worst offending routes, also serve many economically deprived communities in Wolverhampton, thus providing them with the worst air quality too.
  
  
• The average age of vehicles used for public service is 11 years 9 months, 2nd worst after Acocks Green with 11 years 11 months
  
  
• With NX Bus UK announcing a ban on all new diesel and hybrid vehicles from Feb 2020, and no investment for Zero Emission Infrastructure installations for Park Lane in the foreseeable future, means WMT Ltd will continue to cascade end of life diesel vehicles from other garages into Wolverhampton. Notably from Coventry, Birmingham and Walsall as and when new zero emission vehicles are delivered to these garages. If Park Lane receive their first Zero Emission vehicles by 2026 - it will be 10 years since a new vehicle has been delivered to Wolverhampton.
  
  
• In attempt to pretend NXWM are doing something for Wolverhampton over the coming years, buses cascaded to Wolverhampton will receive a new grey livery, similar to the livery WMT Ltd have spent the past 8 years marketing to the public as a livery that represents "high quality", Platinum service.
  
  
• The smallest Borough in WM County and the only borough in Black Country NXWM refuse to support with Low Fare Zone since inception in 2017.
  
  
• NXWM provide bus solutions between key city district centres that are quicker to walk in 30-40 minutes due to the need to use 2 buses paying £4(.60) when the journey should take less than 12 mins on a short hop ticket. Where if you do take the bus, there is a 23% chance your vehicle will be over 18 years old and fail to meet City of Wolverhampton emission standards.
  
  
• NXWM provide a citywide network that has seen journeys cut by 12% since COVID lockdowns ended in Summer 2021.
  
  
• Newest PL vehicles Enviro400 MMC Platinum of 2016 vintage are allocated to D8/X8 and 529 corridors, where they spend more time and mileage outside of Wolverhampton than within, and also charge higher fares covering the shorter distances travelled within Wolverhampton, on the same route, operated by the same vehicle that is based in Wolverhampton.

Image Source: Express and Star

Well that is a rant and a half even for the standards set by some members on here!

Clearly you missed the last bus last night or something to have such a pessimistic (and wholly unrealistic) view of current operating conditions post- COVID.

Perhaps this lack of investment is down to the fact many Wolverhampton routes are now just about break even (when in the past sufficient passenger numbers would have made them profitable enough for investment). Very many areas across the country are in a similar position and thus don't use new buses on routes as that would make the route unviable financially. Please don't wish for a situation where there are new buses running in Wolvo on a few routes but others are completely cut because the old buses just about made them viable, without them they no longer are.

There have been cuts industry wide in the last 2 years for obvious reasons. Wolvo is no exception and overall still has a decent network for local passengers. You fail to mention the fact that Wolvo passengers can still travel all around the West Midlands and into Staffordshire, and Warwickshire even, for JUST £4. That is amazing value in these current time of increased prices and inflation.

Those Tridents may well be 18 years old but NXWM have some of the best engineers in the industry and these buses are maintained to a high standard. Going back 12 years, even 28 year old Metrobuses were still turned out by them well and were mechanically sound. Age is just a number of a bus is well maintained. Likewise, Euro 3/4 buses are not 'dirty' compared to vehicles in the past just not as clean as Euro 6 obviously. Also, the standards over the years of competing companies in Wolvo have hardly been high with clapped out darts and solos running round. I can't imagine they enticed many potential passengers to use the bus.

How much investment are Wolvo council putting into buses? There seems to be a West Midlands wide obsession with the tram at the expense of other transport methods. Maybe the local council could give more support to local buses - the reason Coventry is getting such massive investment is because the local councils (Coventry, Warwickshire etc plus obviously NWM) around there have all contributed towards the new vehicles. It is easy to blame the operator when investment also needs to come from other stakeholders. Look at the situation in Worcestershire, little to no investment from the local authority = little to no investment in new buses. 

I think you need a more pragmatic view about the bus industry currently. What Wolvo has compared to other areas of the country is a good network and the day ticket offers excellent value. Perhaps look down the road to Cannock to see what other areas have to put up with before being too critical.

[BN]

2001 is back.

[BK63 YWP]

2001 is on WN15 about to leave Merry Hill for Wolvo

[BN]

2001 is joining 2957 & 4535 on way to Gaydon.