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Started by Liverpool Street, July 01, 2013, 05:31:43 PM

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Gareth

#6075
Quote from: Stu on May 04, 2021, 07:45:25 PM
Is that true?


I don't just make up facts on the spot.

Yes they can be taken inside a garage for works etc if the tanks are empty, but you couldn't really have indoor garages (like the reopening of Lea Hall as suggested) running fleets of hydrogen buses.

Stu

Quote from: Tony on May 04, 2021, 07:55:27 PM
Hydrogen buses can be stored inside, as long as they haven't got any hydrogen in them. They have about a 15 mile range without fuel, so can be drained when they come in for work to be done.

The Longbridge site is going to be joint NXWM & NEAT, but the NXWM part will be smaller than BC.

Thanks for that, so there's some 'operational benefit' in relocating the NEAT Frankley depot in the same move.

With the addition of a new site in Kitts Green, I presume the capacity will be factored in, to perhaps accomodate also the 94 from Perry Barr, as well as the 17 from Acocks Green, to give both those garages the opportunity to 'grow' further in the future if needed.

Quote from: Gareth on May 04, 2021, 08:07:50 PM
I don't just make up facts on the spot.

Yes they can be taken inside a garage for works etc if the tanks are empty, but you couldn't really have indoor garages (like the reopening of Lea Hall as suggested) running fleets of hydrogen buses.

I genuinely didn't know that, which is why I asked the question.
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BBS

Quote from: Stu on May 04, 2021, 08:41:53 PM
Thanks for that, so there's some 'operational benefit' in relocating the NEAT Frankley depot in the same move.

With the addition of a new site in Kitts Green, I presume the capacity will be factored in, to perhaps accomodate also the 94 from Perry Barr, as well as the 17 from Acocks Green, to give both those garages the opportunity to 'grow' further in the future if needed.

I genuinely didn't know that, which is why I asked the question.
the 17 to kitts green would make sense as it goes near there
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

2206

#6078
Quote from: bbs on May 04, 2021, 11:08:42 PM
the 17 to kitts green would make sense as it goes near there
Or the 72?
As the 72 runs past the Mackadown and past the bottom of Granby Avenue as well, whereas it doesn't really go near AG.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

BBS

Quote from: 2206 on May 04, 2021, 11:11:42 PM
Or the 72?
As the 72 runs past the Mackadown and past the bottom of Granby Avenue as well, whereas it doesn't really go near AG.
yeah 72 too and maybe the 58
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

Jack

Quote from: bbs on May 04, 2021, 11:25:04 PM
yeah 72 too and maybe the 58
You could throw the 73 into that too it doesn't stop exactly that far from there either.

The Fox 4846

I imagine a Chelmsley/Kitts Green garage would operate the following:
BC - 14/55/97/X12/X70
PB - 71/94/96
AG - 17/72

And possibly AG 58/73, BC 60.
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Jack D

Theres been 2-3 diggers on lea ford road fields past few days could that be a sign of some development starting?

2206

#6083
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on May 06, 2021, 12:13:27 AM
I imagine a Kitts Green garage would operate the following:
BC - 14/55/97/X12/X70
PB - 71/94/96
AG - 17/72

And possibly AG 58/73, BC 60.
And X1/X2 could possibly run from from Kitts Green as well as 60.

The Longbridge one could possibly take the 49 from YW as well.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

FireballXL5

Longbridge could take the 18,27,35,49 & 76 from Yardley Wood and the possibly the 50 as well

Pat

Quote from: FireballXL5 on May 07, 2021, 11:17:25 AM
Longbridge could take the 18,27,35,49 & 76 from Yardley Wood and the possibly the 50 as well
Why?  It'll take a huge chunk of work from YW.  Plus, where's the space for all the vehicles?

2206

#6086
Quote from: Pat on May 07, 2021, 11:48:35 AM
Why?  It'll take a huge chunk of work from YW.  Plus, where's the space for all the vehicles?
If they did that they could move the Stratford Rd routes 2/3/6 to AG and shut YW I guess. Which was what was suggested above, they could close one of AG and YW to save money.
It probably depends on how big the new depots will be though.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Sayeed

Quote from: FireballXL5 on May 07, 2021, 11:17:25 AM
Longbridge could take the 18,27,35,49 & 76 from Yardley Wood and the possibly the 50 as well

27 and 49 would make sense to transfer them. 18 can do too but some of the journies I saw it terminates at YW garage? 76 also but I don't think the extension of the route will last that long. It will likely either tossed around to another route or created a new route. I would create a some sort a circular route and operate it from Longbridge so 48 and 76 can go back to the original route.



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Tony

Quote from: 2206 on May 07, 2021, 11:50:17 AM
If they did that they could move the Stratford Rd routes 2/3/6 to AG and shut YW I guess. Which was what was suggested above, they could close one of AG and YW to save money.
It probably depends on how big the new depots will be though.

Electric vehicles need bigger parking spaces than diesel due to the charging kit, so extra capacity  needed not less

BBS

Quote from: 2206 on May 07, 2021, 11:50:17 AM
If they did that they could move the Stratford Rd routes 2/3/6 to AG and shut YW I guess. Which was what was suggested above, they could close one of AG and YW to save money.
It probably depends on how big the new depots will be though.
AG is quite bigger than YW from outside. And they have enough buses already
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

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