Birmingham Central Garage

[BN]

4541/4560/61/4609? Are they clapped out?

I said some of them, not all of them ::)

Best you stick to PN buses in the future as you seem to think you know more than me about WN which you clearly don't !

I think I know enough about it to know when a garage is making buses worse. Now back to Birmingham Central please.

Hi Matt, whereabouts do you work at the company and what position do you hold?

Perhaps you could go down to WN and meet some of the engineering team and let them know your comments on here?

I could ask you the same thing.

Just the impression I get and have heard.

Matt,

In case you hadn't already figured it out, I think you'll find that BN is WN garages engineering manager, hence his reply

No sorry I am not.

[winston]

Fair enough BN, got my wires crossed.... ;)

[Ashley 4569]

Nicely said. The mentioned Tridents aren't clapped out, they just sound different which isnt a bad thing.

As for 4151 Tony, its not one I would complain about, I take it you liked the bus but the route not as much?

[Tony]

Nicely said. The mentioned Tridents aren't clapped out, they just sound different which isnt a bad thing.

As for 4151 Tony, its not one I would complain about, I take it you liked the bus but the route not as much?

Volunteering for driving up and down Alum Rock Road on the last weekend of Ramadam might not have been the best idea, but otherwise I like the 14 driven on it on and off for 25 years, there is that video on my you tube of it taken in about 1987, and the passengers are no-where near as bad as some on here make out, I got a lot of thank yous from people getting off

[Ashley 4569]

I have watched that video, how times have changed, the estates weren't so congested back then I suppose. Ill admit the 14 was one of the first Birmingham routes I sampled when I became more adventurous. Initially I wouldnt have been able to tell what was a good or bad route, I think my downer on some of the Chelsmley Wood routes came from views on the forum but as is always the case anywhere, its only a minority that lower the tone of any route but thats another story

[Liverpool Street]

Nicely said. The mentioned Tridents aren't clapped out, they just sound different which isnt a bad thing.

As for 4151 Tony, its not one I would complain about, I take it you liked the bus but the route not as much?

Volunteering for driving up and down Alum Rock Road on the last weekend of Ramadam might not have been the best idea, but otherwise I like the 14 driven on it on and off for 25 years, there is that video on my you tube of it taken in about 1987, and the passengers are no-where near as bad as some on here make out, I got a lot of thank yous from people getting off

Well yes because I bet you gave them a free ride with there 'yearly savers'. Or bimonthly passes.. all I used to get on that road was a mouthful of gob up the assault screen.

[the trainbasher]

4433 was on the 900 yesterday and tbh it was alright, a diversion and half though after leaving the airport to get on to the city bound A45 but it looked quite smart.

[Tony]

Nicely said. The mentioned Tridents aren't clapped out, they just sound different which isnt a bad thing.

As for 4151 Tony, its not one I would complain about, I take it you liked the bus but the route not as much?

Volunteering for driving up and down Alum Rock Road on the last weekend of Ramadam might not have been the best idea, but otherwise I like the 14 driven on it on and off for 25 years, there is that video on my you tube of it taken in about 1987, and the passengers are no-where near as bad as some on here make out, I got a lot of thank yous from people getting off

Well yes because I bet you gave them a free ride with there 'yearly savers'. Or bimonthly passes.. all I used to get on that road was a mouthful of gob up the assault screen.

No, goes against the grain as a Revenue Inspector to give people free rides. Have you got a job in the Granny taxi service yet?

[Liverpool Street]

Nicely said. The mentioned Tridents aren't clapped out, they just sound different which isnt a bad thing.

As for 4151 Tony, its not one I would complain about, I take it you liked the bus but the route not as much?

Volunteering for driving up and down Alum Rock Road on the last weekend of Ramadam might not have been the best idea, but otherwise I like the 14 driven on it on and off for 25 years, there is that video on my you tube of it taken in about 1987, and the passengers are no-where near as bad as some on here make out, I got a lot of thank yous from people getting off

Well yes because I bet you gave them a free ride with there 'yearly savers'. Or bimonthly passes.. all I used to get on that road was a mouthful of gob up the assault screen.

No, goes against the grain as a Revenue Inspector to give people free rides. Have you got a job in the Granny taxi service yet?

No thanks haha

And were you in Revenue uniform, just out of curiosity?

[Tony]

Nicely said. The mentioned Tridents aren't clapped out, they just sound different which isnt a bad thing.

As for 4151 Tony, its not one I would complain about, I take it you liked the bus but the route not as much?

Volunteering for driving up and down Alum Rock Road on the last weekend of Ramadam might not have been the best idea, but otherwise I like the 14 driven on it on and off for 25 years, there is that video on my you tube of it taken in about 1987, and the passengers are no-where near as bad as some on here make out, I got a lot of thank yous from people getting off

Well yes because I bet you gave them a free ride with there 'yearly savers'. Or bimonthly passes.. all I used to get on that road was a mouthful of gob up the assault screen.

No, goes against the grain as a Revenue Inspector to give people free rides. Have you got a job in the Granny taxi service yet?

No thanks haha

And were you in Revenue uniform, just out of curiosity?

I was just driving in my Inspector's white shirt. I was told you were thinking of going to Ring & Ride

[Mike K]

Nicely said. The mentioned Tridents aren't clapped out, they just sound different which isnt a bad thing.

As for 4151 Tony, its not one I would complain about, I take it you liked the bus but the route not as much?

Volunteering for driving up and down Alum Rock Road on the last weekend of Ramadam might not have been the best idea, but otherwise I like the 14 driven on it on and off for 25 years, there is that video on my you tube of it taken in about 1987, and the passengers are no-where near as bad as some on here make out, I got a lot of thank yous from people getting off

Well yes because I bet you gave them a free ride with there 'yearly savers'. Or bimonthly passes.. all I used to get on that road was a mouthful of gob up the assault screen.

No, goes against the grain as a Revenue Inspector to give people free rides. Have you got a job in the Granny taxi service yet?

No thanks haha

And were you in Revenue uniform, just out of curiosity?

I was just driving in my Inspector's white shirt. I was told you were thinking of going to Ring & Ride

I guess the occupational hazard on Ring and Ride, rather than a mouthful of gob, is someone dribbling all over you?

[Liverpool Street]

Nicely said. The mentioned Tridents aren't clapped out, they just sound different which isnt a bad thing.

As for 4151 Tony, its not one I would complain about, I take it you liked the bus but the route not as much?

Volunteering for driving up and down Alum Rock Road on the last weekend of Ramadam might not have been the best idea, but otherwise I like the 14 driven on it on and off for 25 years, there is that video on my you tube of it taken in about 1987, and the passengers are no-where near as bad as some on here make out, I got a lot of thank yous from people getting off

Well yes because I bet you gave them a free ride with there 'yearly savers'. Or bimonthly passes.. all I used to get on that road was a mouthful of gob up the assault screen.

No, goes against the grain as a Revenue Inspector to give people free rides. Have you got a job in the Granny taxi service yet?

No thanks haha

And were you in Revenue uniform, just out of curiosity?

I was just driving in my Inspector's white shirt. I was told you were thinking of going to Ring & Ride

I'll probably do anything in months to come, but now I'm done with NX I'm going to France with the wife for a 2weeks.

Who tells you this false information?. I most likely won't, anyway.

[Ashley 4569]

Enjoy your holiday :)

That spit kit will come in handy if you did go to Ring and Ride :P

[Kevin]

I've just finished my first driving duty at BC for two years, didn't take the easy option of a new bus on the 900, but took a duty on the 14 with 4151, not sure why you BC drivers moan about the 41xx, 4151 is a lovely bus, superb brakes, only fault is it is a bit slow pulling away on a hill.

Shame London Midland are so shit and cannot be bothered to run any trains to get me home. Don't expect any website updates tonight, currently on the stopper to Walsall with the promise of a replacement bus

Son of a b**** i think you drove my bus back from Chelmsley Wood about half 8. I remember telling me girlfriend at the time "I think I recognise that driver, but it can't be him cause he wouldn't be driving a BC bus"

.... dammit

[Tony]

I've just finished my first driving duty at BC for two years, didn't take the easy option of a new bus on the 900, but took a duty on the 14 with 4151, not sure why you BC drivers moan about the 41xx, 4151 is a lovely bus, superb brakes, only fault is it is a bit slow pulling away on a hill.

Shame London Midland are so shit and cannot be bothered to run any trains to get me home. Don't expect any website updates tonight, currently on the stopper to Walsall with the promise of a replacement bus

Son of a b**** i think you drove my bus back from Chelmsley Wood about half 8. I remember telling me girlfriend at the time "I think I recognise that driver, but it can't be him cause he wouldn't be driving a BC bus"

.... dammit

I did the 20:25 from Chelmsley Wood back to City