Fleet Numbers

[iansdavies]

thanks dave youre a good un  :D

[iansdavies]

i also spotted a wmpte bus bon 497c on a old midland red bus route 169 which ran from birmingham to berwicks lane in chelmsley wood, i think it may have been  on loan to sutton garage as most of chelmsleys buses operated from there any ideas .

[Isle of Stroma]

I've got 3497 at LH between 2/76-4/76, carrying a 'Bissell' orange all over advertisement at that time.

[Tony]

I've got 3497 at LH between 2/76-4/76, carrying a 'Bissell' orange all over advertisement at that time.

Sutton Coldfield garage was always borrowing buses from various garages, but I suspect 3497 was running from LH when you saw it. Sutton only had odd journeys on the 169

[B10L1473]

Remember in 1996 metroriders helding fleetnumbers 5xx 6xx series to be replaced by
Volvo B6 around 1997/1998 with same fleet numbers 5xx 6xx series.

Also Leyland National 1467-1480 was very close to Volvo B10L 1467-1480.

Gaa buses 1501-1514 new in 1997 close to 15xx Leyland Nationals.

1505 TOE 505N Leyland National at Walsall atound 1995/1996.

Gas powered B10L 1505 P505 KOK by June 1997

[The Real 4778]

1505 TOE 505N Leyland National at Walsall atound 1995/1996.

Gas powered B10L 1505 P505 KOK by June 1997

P-KOK sounds very colourful, think you mean P-KOX, which is the whole flock.

[Kevin]

P-KOK sounds very colourful, think you mean P-KOX, which is the whole flock.

And the wit strikes again  :D

[Squiz1971]

Remember in 1996 metroriders helding fleetnumbers 5xx 6xx series to be replaced by
Volvo B6 around 1997/1998 with same fleet numbers 5xx 6xx series.

Also Leyland National 1467-1480 was very close to Volvo B10L 1467-1480.

Gaa buses 1501-1514 new in 1997 close to 15xx Leyland Nationals.

1505 TOE 505N Leyland National at Walsall atound 1995/1996.

Gas powered B10L 1505 P505 KOK by June 1997

The 1st batch of nationals were originally 4467-4526 renumbered 1467-1526 so some of the mercs O405N also matched the nationals as well 1515-1526 that came out

[iansdavies]

thanks lads i didnt know the 169 operated from lea hall this must have happened just after wmpte took over midland red operations must have been around 1975

[busfan2847]

thanks lads i didnt know the 169 operated from lea hall this must have happened just after wmpte took over midland red operations must have been around 1975

WMPTE took over Midland Red workings in West Midlands County from 3rd December 1973 setting up Midland Red (Metropolitan) Ltd to aid the transfer. Originally operational responsibility for all Midland Red (Metropolitan) Ltd routes was with North Division (ex Walsall, Wolverhampton and West Bromwich) as most of the routes ran in the North Division area. From June 1974 Moseley Rd, Sutton and Sheepcote St depots passed to South Division (ex Birmingham Corporation). Sheepcote St and Moseley Rd closed on 16th November 1975 and their services (and vehicles) passed to other South Division (Birmingham Corporation) garages. Midland Red Fleetlines passed to Acocks Green, Lea Hall, Coventry Rd  and Liverpool St, BMMO built single deckers to Coventry Rd, Lea Hall and Yardley Wood, Midland Red nationals to Liverpool St and Leyland Leopard single deckers to Yardley Wood. For a while it was possible to catch Red BMMO built vehicles on ex Birmingham Corporation routes.

[iansdavies]

thanks busfan i really am learning things about wmpte and midland red  :D

[iansdavies]

4586n - 4590n  which were located at sheepcote street in 1975 were they rehoused at lea hall on the 16th november 1975

[busfan2847]

4586-4589 were at LH in March 1977, 4590 was at Cleveland Rd, Wolverhampton

[don]

4586-4589 were at LH in March 1977, 4590 was at Cleveland Rd, Wolverhampton

Are you sure re 4590? I have 4590-4599 at Coventry Road (CR) and 4596-89; 4600-05 at Lea Hall (LH) in 1977. The batch of 20, 4586-4605 started on former Midland Red services (possibly removing D9s) - does anyone know which garages they were split between, and which ones went where? I thought it was Sheepcote St, Sutton and (possibly) Moseley Road, having seen various photos on service 118 (4586-4590) and Sutton services?

[Squiz1971]

I have a WMPTE & MR fleetlist from 1978 they list as follows:

4586-4589 LH
4590-4599 CR (Cov Road)
4600-4605 LH

I think the confusion is that when Cov Road closed Cleveland Road adopted the CR garage code as I have seen fleetlines & Metrobuses with the radio disc with CR or PL