Why do people keep banging on about Arriva & Cannock?!

[MW]

As the subject, does anyone else find it annoying that on West Midlands Bus Photos, you get the same few banging on about the same thing everyday, yes it might not be a good operation, but there's no need to tell us all 12 times a day... Rant over.

[Sh4318]

As the subject, does anyone else find it annoying that on West Midlands Bus Photos, you get the same few banging on about the same thing everyday, yes it might not be a good operation, but there's no need to tell us all 12 times a day... Rant over.

People do talk a lot about Arriva and Cannock, and I'm not interested, so I just tend to not read them. But it doesn't really bother me, not everyone's interested in Coventry or First operations either, I'm interested in trains, but not everyone on the site is interested in trains, each to their own I say

[richie]

If anything I may take a day trip to Cannock to see just how bad it is

[mranon]

it does appear to be coming across like the same few people have a grudge about arriva/cannock, and sour grapes etc, but isnt the point of a forum such as this to be able to express facts/views/opinions? there will always be a few bad eggs which spoil things, but if out of every ten negative comments, management of the concerned bit read the complaints/groans 1 got looked into then its worth it.

[Bob]

I dont read the trains bit or first/coventry because ive no interest in them people could perhaps do the same if theyve no interest in Cannock

[Dylan4579]

As the subject, does anyone else find it annoying that on West Midlands Bus Photos, you get the same few banging on about the same thing everyday, yes it might not be a good operation, but there's no need to tell us all 12 times a day... Rant over.

Thank you!! Bob thinks that nxwm is heavenly and that arriva is the worst, believe me first is worse, take a trip to Worcester 

[PM]

As the subject, does anyone else find it annoying that on West Midlands Bus Photos, you get the same few banging on about the same thing everyday, yes it might not be a good operation, but there's no need to tell us all 12 times a day... Rant over.

Thank you!! Bob thinks that nxwm is heavenly and that arriva is the worst, believe me first is worse, take a trip to Worcester

We never hear much about first in worcester do we??

[Bob]

Thats crap actually? I have said before now on loads of occasions that arriva are very good in some depots, derby tamworth telford etc but their Cannock operation is a joke

[j789]

First are not bad in Worcester, the network is comprehensive round the city and to other places eg every 15 mins to Bromsgrove, 10 mins to Malvern, 30 mins to Brum plus hourly links to Hereford and Evesham. Warndon gets a bus every 5 minutes which is better than alot of NXWM territory. The day ticket only costs £3.70 for city travel which is not bad at all and with the ex Redditch Enviros the fleet is in pretty good shape.

Worcester's major problems are the amount of roadworks that are constantly going on along main corridors which cause delays across the network due to routes interworking and also the fact that 3 major A roads go straight through the city centre so traffic is very heavy on all routes, If anyone has been in Worcester when the M5 is closed between J6 and 7 you will understand the horrendous traffic conditions that can arise. That is not First's fault despite what people may think.

[Sh4318]

What's wrong with Worcester? :o
Bus operations seem very good, frequent buses to the General Hospital, Dines Green & Malvern, seems to me First are doing fine

[Dylan4579]

the trains not the buses

[Sh4318]

the trains not the buses

I have to disagree with you there as well, coming from someone who has to travel to Worcester by train every day to study. 3tph to Birmingham, 1/2tph to Hereford & Great Malvern. 1t2ph to London Paddington & Oxford. There are very good train connections from Worcester

[Discodave]

As the subject, does anyone else find it annoying that on West Midlands Bus Photos, you get the same few banging on about the same thing everyday, yes it might not be a good operation, but there's no need to tell us all 12 times a day... Rant over.

I have worked at Cannock as a driver and I think their operation is a joke too much messing with services and still is and I have also worked on loan to other depots and can see the vast difference in service as well as bus quality the only place which I could say could do with a little more improvement is Head Office in Leicester some of the motors were rough but at least they were looked after.  I hope Arriva in the West Midlands but I can see not a bus war but a hard slog to make things work with NXWM being the major operator.  Its just with Arriva past attempt they failed miserably with Chase and gave up in Walsall and as noted elsewhere the 560 is gone on the 28th April which was left to rot anyway it could have been improved run from wednesfield but oh well.   

[nx4737]

As the subject, does anyone else find it annoying that on West Midlands Bus Photos, you get the same few banging on about the same thing everyday, yes it might not be a good operation, but there's no need to tell us all 12 times a day... Rant over.

I have worked at Cannock as a driver and I think their operation is a joke too much messing with services and still is and I have also worked on loan to other depots and can see the vast difference in service as well as bus quality the only place which I could say could do with a little more improvement is Head Office in Leicester some of the motors were rough but at least they were looked after.  I hope Arriva in the West Midlands but I can see not a bus war but a hard slog to make things work with NXWM being the major operator.  Its just with Arriva past attempt they failed miserably with Chase and gave up in Walsall and as noted elsewhere the 560 is gone on the 28th April which was left to rot anyway it could have been improved run from wednesfield but oh well.

...as has been mentioned, sour grapes.

[Discodave]

As the subject, does anyone else find it annoying that on West Midlands Bus Photos, you get the same few banging on about the same thing everyday, yes it might not be a good operation, but there's no need to tell us all 12 times a day... Rant over.

I have worked at Cannock as a driver and I think their operation is a joke too much messing with services and still is and I have also worked on loan to other depots and can see the vast difference in service as well as bus quality the only place which I could say could do with a little more improvement is Head Office in Leicester some of the motors were rough but at least they were looked after.  I hope Arriva in the West Midlands but I can see not a bus war but a hard slog to make things work with NXWM being the major operator.  Its just with Arriva past attempt they failed miserably with Chase and gave up in Walsall and as noted elsewhere the 560 is gone on the 28th April which was left to rot anyway it could have been improved run from wednesfield but oh well.

...as has been mentioned, sour grapes.

An Arriva guru with an NX bus as an avitar talking bollocks.