NX Hybrids

[wilmotm (Matt Wilmot)]

Oh yes sorry, I associate true ADL vehicles with the Enviro range I suppose, but I think most of WN's are Transbus and Dennis ones?

[4504]

WNs 45**-46** are a bit random, some sound like transbus tridents, while some sound like Dennis tridents, but they're hard to differentiate between because they both have tv screens and tree deflectors

I saw another hybrid on the 24, do they just use the spare hybrids that aren't on the 22/23 on the 24?

[Phil]

4565-84 (the126 branded ones) have a slightly different engin or make a different noise to the others. The Spare Hybrds are often used on the 24 (saw 5501 on it today) but can also be seen on the 97 as well.

[Stevo]

4586 had an experimental Euro 4 engine for some time, a prototype for the Enviro 400. Has it still got it?

[4504]

I'm not sure. I was on 4579 today, noticeably, 4186 doesn't sound like other Dennis tridents

4586 had an experimental Euro 4 engine for some time, a prototype for the Enviro 400. Has it still got it?

[PM]

yes, the adl e400s are miles better than the volvos-why does anyone want them?

[Roy]

According to both Buses Magazine and Coach and Bus Weekly, NXWM have just ordered 9 Volvo B5LH hybrids.  There is no news on what the other 12 buses in the 2012/2013 hybrid order will be.  If the other 12 turn out to be Enviro 400H's, it will be interesting to see if the 9 new Volvos join the other 9 at BC, with the Enviro 400H's going to WN.

[MW]

According to both Buses Magazine and Coach and Bus Weekly, NXWM have just ordered 9 Volvo B5LH hybrids.  There is no news on what the other 12 buses in the 2012/2013 hybrid order will be.  If the other 12 turn out to be Enviro 400H's, it will be interesting to see if the 9 new Volvos join the other 9 at BC, with the Enviro 400H's going to WN.

That's the plan. BC will lose one type of Hybrid.

[PM]

Oh right-I didnt know that tho I can see it makes sense.....

[4504]

Could the engine be the same as the 41** and 43** tridents, cause it sounds exactly the same. Would be nice to see some single decker hybrids, I wonder what chassis would be available

4565-84 (the126 branded ones) have a slightly different engin or make a different noise to the others. The Spare Hybrds are often used on the 24 (saw 5501 on it today) but can also be seen on the 97 as well.

[MW]

Could the engine be the same as the 41** and 43** tridents, cause it sounds exactly the same. Would be nice to see some single decker hybrids, I wonder what chassis would be available

4565-84 (the126 branded ones) have a slightly different engin or make a different noise to the others. The Spare Hybrds are often used on the 24 (saw 5501 on it today) but can also be seen on the 97 as well.

The engines are all the same! 4425 onwards are fitted with a ZF gear box, whilst the previous ones have a Voith box. Voith box ones basically have 3 gears, whilst ZF ones have more. When the vehicle is in idle, the ZF ones just rattle like a normal engine whilst the Voith make a high pitch sound.

Edit: I'm not sure about 4565 - 84 which a mentioned above.

[Phil]

Could the engine be the same as the 41** and 43** tridents, cause it sounds exactly the same. Would be nice to see some single decker hybrids, I wonder what chassis would be available

4565-84 (the126 branded ones) have a slightly different engin or make a different noise to the others. The Spare Hybrds are often used on the 24 (saw 5501 on it today) but can also be seen on the 97 as well.

Yeah, they do sound the same, only they have one more gear they can go to like Michael said

[mranon]

was on 4552 earlier, and that sounds more beefy than my trip home, same driver but 4305 on return to dudley. This seemed to rev higher and not change as much. I take it then this one 4305 has a voith box.

[Zach Jordan]

The latter Wolverhampton Tridents (126 branded ones, and a few others I think but don't know exact numbers) are also Voith, and I presume (but not certain) that the Pershore Road 46xx Tridents are also Voith (if anyone can confirm that'd be great!). Basically, the Y-TOHs, BX02s and BV52s are all voith, with the BJ03s, BL53s being ZF. There is then a split with some BU04s being ZF, some being voith. Its been that long since I travelled on a BX54, I can't remember what they are! To avoid questions like this further down, all of the B7TLs are ZF except the ALX400s which are voith - apparently the Coventry Gemini's are also Voith, but I've had conflicting stories on this one!

[PM]

Im sure the 54 reg tridents are ZF and I much  prefer the ZF tridents to the others