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Started by Nathan4775, April 18, 2012, 06:16:51 PM

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Which of the hybrids do you prefer?

Volvo B5LH
45 (55.6%)
Enviro400H
36 (44.4%)

Total Members Voted: 81

Discodave

Quote from: nitromatt1 on March 10, 2013, 10:44:08 PM
Quote from: Ashley on March 10, 2013, 10:35:59 PM
Be nice to get any sort of decker on the 3 , a hybrid woud be fab though even if I'm not a big fan

They don't give you that "fizz" do they Ash? ;)

His name is Ash not James May lol

nitromatt1

Quote from: Discodave on March 11, 2013, 03:51:53 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on March 10, 2013, 10:44:08 PM
Quote from: Ashley on March 10, 2013, 10:35:59 PM
Be nice to get any sort of decker on the 3 , a hybrid woud be fab though even if I'm not a big fan

They don't give you that "fizz" do they Ash? ;)

His name is Ash not James May lol

Personal joke.

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Roy on March 11, 2013, 02:01:06 PM
I saw 5511-5517 in service on the 1 this morning.  5510 and 5518 could have been in service but I did not see them personally during the time I was in Wolverhampton.  5515 to 5517 have route branding, 5511 to 5514 do not.

travelled on both 5511 & 5515 this morning and two nice new clean buses, however i do wonder if they will last on the 1.

Unlike in Birmingham where on the 22/23 even during the middle of the day, they are very much stop // start, on the two journey's i took today there was plenty of long non stop running and 5511 even when it stopped the engine continued running?
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

Trident 4609

Quote from: Roy on March 11, 2013, 02:01:06 PM
I saw 5511-5517 in service on the 1 this morning.  5510 and 5518 could have been in service but I did not see them personally during the time I was in Wolverhampton.  5515 to 5517 have route branding, 5511 to 5514 do not.

5518 is in service and has route branding so 5515-18 has branding with 5510-14  unbranded

Mike K

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 11, 2013, 07:17:48 PM
Quote from: Roy on March 11, 2013, 02:01:06 PM
I saw 5511-5517 in service on the 1 this morning.  5510 and 5518 could have been in service but I did not see them personally during the time I was in Wolverhampton.  5515 to 5517 have route branding, 5511 to 5514 do not.

travelled on both 5511 & 5515 this morning and two nice new clean buses, however i do wonder if they will last on the 1.

Unlike in Birmingham where on the 22/23 even during the middle of the day, they are very much stop // start, on the two journey's i took today there was plenty of long non stop running and 5511 even when it stopped the engine continued running?O

It's down to the driver as to whether they use the stop / start on these when stationary from what Ive observed. Excuse my ignorance as I've never driven a bus but do you need to apply the handbrake, put it into 'neutral' or something like that? On the 22/23 with some drivers the engines do cut out when stopped but others seem to always keep the engine running. 

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Mike K on March 11, 2013, 08:39:26 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 11, 2013, 07:17:48 PM
Quote from: Roy on March 11, 2013, 02:01:06 PM
I saw 5511-5517 in service on the 1 this morning.  5510 and 5518 could have been in service but I did not see them personally during the time I was in Wolverhampton.  5515 to 5517 have route branding, 5511 to 5514 do not.

travelled on both 5511 & 5515 this morning and two nice new clean buses, however i do wonder if they will last on the 1.

Unlike in Birmingham where on the 22/23 even during the middle of the day, they are very much stop // start, on the two journey's i took today there was plenty of long non stop running and 5511 even when it stopped the engine continued running?O

It's down to the driver as to whether they use the stop / start on these when stationary from what Ive observed. Excuse my ignorance as I've never driven a bus but do you need to apply the handbrake, put it into 'neutral' or something like that? On the 22/23 with some drivers the engines do cut out when stopped but others seem to always keep the engine running.

Well if drivers don't use the stop/start mode, is there any point in using hybrid buses.

Maybe i am wrong, but i assumed that the savings with these buses was achieved when you pulled away from bus stops/traffic lights etc when the engine didn't kick in till the vehicle was moving at a certain speed.
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

Tony

Down to the driver? Didn't tell me that when I was type trained on them! I certainly wasn't controlling it in Saturday

Mike K

Oh ok, I assumed that it was to do with the way the bus was driven as on some journeys buses cut out at every single stop, on others they can be sat in traffic for an eternity and still not cut out. I would be interested to know what does influence this as on some journeys the B5LHs seem to behave very differently to on others.

Andrew1991

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 11, 2013, 07:17:48 PM
Quote from: Roy on March 11, 2013, 02:01:06 PM
I saw 5511-5517 in service on the 1 this morning.  5510 and 5518 could have been in service but I did not see them personally during the time I was in Wolverhampton.  5515 to 5517 have route branding, 5511 to 5514 do not.

travelled on both 5511 & 5515 this morning and two nice new clean buses, however i do wonder if they will last on the 1.

Unlike in Birmingham where on the 22/23 even during the middle of the day, they are very much stop // start, on the two journey's i took today there was plenty of long non stop running and 5511 even when it stopped the engine continued running?

you should try having a ride between 8 - 9am or 5 - 6pm in Wolverhampton street or Sedgley. then you'd see the difference. but then again Saturday afternoons on Tettenhall road are bad too

Andrew1991

Quote from: Mike K on March 11, 2013, 09:29:06 PM
Oh ok, I assumed that it was to do with the way the bus was driven as on some journeys buses cut out at every single stop, on others they can be sat in traffic for an eternity and still not cut out. I would be interested to know what does influence this as on some journeys the B5LHs seem to behave very differently to on others.

the ones I was on were working correctly, 5511, 5513, 5515 & 5517. 5513 had a problem with the ticket machine when I was on there though.

Mike K

Quote from: Tony on March 11, 2013, 09:00:49 PM
Down to the driver? Didn't tell me that when I was type trained on them! I certainly wasn't controlling it in Saturday

I stand corrected. This article explains how it works. It would appear that whilst the driver doesn't have direct control over when the bus cuts out, it is influenced by driving style. Thrash the bus = fewer engine cut outs.

http://www.focustransport.org.uk/fhybrid3.aspx


Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Mike K on March 11, 2013, 09:38:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 11, 2013, 09:00:49 PM
Down to the driver? Didn't tell me that when I was type trained on them! I certainly wasn't controlling it in Saturday

I stand corrected. This article explains how it works. It would appear that whilst the driver doesn't have direct control over when the bus cuts out, it is influenced by driving style. Thrash the bus = fewer engine cut outs.

http://www.focustransport.org.uk/fhybrid3.aspx

Very interesting article, really enforcing the argument that if you drive the buses 9and any buses) sensibly, then you will get maximum savings.
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

SMK

I had a ride on 5513 around midday.
Already it had what looked like shoe scuff marks on the floor and some one had spilt some cola near the stairs  :-\
We'll get rid of your bus to Wolves and replace it with one to Walsall instead.......... Oh the joy of a Network Review. -_-

the trainbasher

5512 was back in service this evening


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Stuharris 6360

Can't understand why they have placed the next stop displays on the top deck right behind the front seat.

Have sat down twice today and hit my head on it! (and no, i haven't got a big head, before anybody asks)

Its the same with the BC Hybrids!
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

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