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Started by Ash, March 19, 2012, 08:10:16 PM

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Tony

Quote from: 2206 on May 31, 2021, 07:10:04 PM
Are the B7TL ALX400 and Crimson Gemini at AG & WB compliant for the 4/4A & 80A?

No Volvos at AG are. WB have 11 compliant Gemini

Trident 4194

Will any ALX 400 B7TL be allowed in the city. I've seen quite a few omnilinks on 13A and they do seem to struggle with loadings

Tony

Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 31, 2021, 08:11:18 PM
Will any ALX 400 B7TL be allowed in the city. I've seen quite a few omnilinks on 13A and they do seem to struggle with loadings

I've just answered that question right above you asking!

Jack

Quote from: Tony on May 31, 2021, 08:29:04 PM
I've just answered that question right above you asking!
All PB Gemini's are compliant aren't they? Or (at a guess) the Crimson MMC's may be replacing some?

BBS

New Charges apply tommorow. A big problem to garages like AG who dont have enough euro 6 buses.
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

cardew

Compliance can be checked on the government website using the vehicle registration number https://www.gov.uk/clean-air-zones

AG can always use 11 branded E400MMCs  on city routes.  Maybe some shortages will be catered for by transfers when the hydrogen buses arrive at Walsall

2206

#5136
Quote from: cardew on May 31, 2021, 09:15:39 PM
Compliance can be checked on the government website using the vehicle registration number https://www.gov.uk/clean-air-zones
That link seems to be saying the last few of the PB batch 4498 - 4504 aren't compliant and have a £50 charge.
Quote from: cardew on May 31, 2021, 09:15:39 PM
  Maybe some shortages will be catered for by transfers when the hydrogen buses arrive at Walsall
And possibly more new buses/cascades if there are still potentially 200 coming this year?
Quote from: Tony on January 01, 2021, 10:29:26 AM
Because it is not worth making the entire fleet 'Euro 6' as there is a possibility of around 200 new buses in 2021
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

BBS

#5137
Quote from: 2206 on May 31, 2021, 09:21:31 PM
That link seems to be saying the last few of the PB batch 4498 - 4504 aren't compliant and have a £50 charge.And possibly more new buses/cascades if there are still potentially 200 coming this year?
All of AG's geminis arent compliant either and thats a problem for the 4 then. Also ALX400 too
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

MW

AG does have enough compliant vehicles. They just wear Outer Circle branding!

I expect to see Geminis & ALX400s return properly to the Outer Circle from tomorrow then.

BBS

#5139
Quote from: MW on May 31, 2021, 09:43:57 PM
AG does have enough compliant vehicles. They just wear Outer Circle branding!

I expect to see Geminis & ALX400s return properly to the Outer Circle from tomorrow then.
Oh yeah. Expect a lot of outer circle brandeds and 67** on the 4 a lot then. Also omnilinks are on the 4 quite a lot too.Also thats good for the 5 too because the 5 can have E400MMC and platinums on the 4 sometimes.
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

2206

#5140
Quote from: bbs on May 31, 2021, 09:48:22 PM
Oh yeah. Expect a lot of outer circle brandeds and 67** on the 4 a lot then. Also omnilinks are on the 4 quite a lot too.
I don't think they had enough MMC for the 11 as it is anyway as the ALX400 and Gemini are always on there anyway, including 4295 & 4301.
Maybe the 11 could get new buses and then the 61XX can move onto the 4/4A or other City routes at other garages full time as part of the 200 new buses if thats still happening?
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Jack

#5141
Quote from: bbs on May 31, 2021, 09:48:22 PM
Oh yeah. Expect a lot of outer circle brandeds and 67** on the 4 a lot then. Also omnilinks are on the 4 quite a lot too.
The 67** are pretty much kept to the 5, theres no other compliant Deckers apart from the Circle Branded 61** that are allowed on the 5, they'll most likely use any branded 61** on the 4/4A that will make up for the B7TL's coming off, unless they give the 5 the single deckers and keep the 67** on other routes but I highly doubt that.

When AG had 6111-6114, then 6101-6108/10 there was enough for the 11 but they seemed to be kept to the other AG services as well as the 11.

I have to say its a shame to no longer see B7TL's on the 4/4A anymore, they've pretty much been usual on it since they first came to AG.

BBS

#5142
Quote from: Jack on May 31, 2021, 09:52:54 PM
The 67** are pretty much kept to the 5, theres no other compliant Deckers apart from the Circle Branded 61** that are allowed on the 5, they'll most likely use any branded 61** on the 4/4A that will make up for the B7TL's coming off, unless they give the 5 the single deckers and keep the 67** on other routes but I highly doubt that.

When AG had 6111-6114, then 6101-6108/10 there was enough for the 11 but they seemed to be kept to the other AG services as well as the 11.

I have to say its a shame to no longer see B7TL's on the 4/4A anymore, they've pretty much been usual on it since they first came to AG.
I completely agree with you.it will be a real shame not seeing geminis on the 4 anymore.ill deeply miss them on the 4 but its for the better.But i also agree with my friend because branded buses are for specific routes. if they arent going o their allocated routes then whats the point in branding them.
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

Jack

Quote from: bbs on May 31, 2021, 10:02:44 PM
I completely agree with you.it will be a real shame not seeing geminis on the 4 anymore.ill deeply miss them on the 4 but its for the better.But i also agree with my friend because branded buses are for specific routes. if they arent going o their allocated routes then whats the point in branding them.
Lets be honest AG have never been great with the E200MMC's since they was new, I think theres too many branded for the 4/4A, considering they are never always on there and off trotting about on other routes. It was worse when they had the 71/72 branded as they would be going anywhere and they still seem to.

BBS

#5144
Quote from: Jack on May 31, 2021, 10:11:28 PM
Lets be honest AG have never been great with the E200MMC's since they was new, I think theres too many branded for the 4/4A, considering they are never always on there and off trotting about on other routes. It was worse when they had the 71/72 branded as they would be going anywhere and they still seem to.
Yeah i always see 4/4A brandeds on 58/31,32 & 17. Oh the 71/72 brandeds those were chaotic.Also seeing 2203 the other day didnt surprise me wither
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

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