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42xx seen on Icknield Port Road, running about 2 - 3 minutes behind shadowing the 80, when the 80 stopped the 42xx stopped, sorry didnt see the full number or indeed the 80 it was shadowing would this be route learning ??

It could be achieved by sending buses in both directions via Dudley Road and Grove Lane to do a u-turn where the 82/87 do on outbound journeys. Not ideal, would add to running time and possibly PVR, but could be done without missing out any of the current route.

Turn Right at the lights just after the prison, carry on upto the island left onto grove lane left onto dudley road, right onto city road, NOT missing Winson Green, NOT missing Dudley Rd - naturally as you cannot turn left at City Rd / Dudley Rd a minor alteration of route would be needed but only missing 1 stop then as above,
i get that its not happening, but to say your missing out large sections of route would not be correct, the extra journey time is probably negligable but if not maybe 10 - 15 minutes, not so hard to manage 10 minutes really ??

IMHO The 11A/11C Outer Circle needs to be diverted as it serves a now closed hospital (City) no revenue to be had from there, so in light of that & the nasty turn at Aberdeen Street, i would change the route to serve the new MMUH on Grove Lane in both directions, although there is not much business going on by the look of things down there anyway, but for Hospital Appointments etc, i do think it would be a smarter move than serving a closed hospital

H1006 on the back of a recovery truck

more mileage than most have done in ages - saves the tyres you know 

isnt anybody going to mention the Diversions on Dudley Road, 11A / 11C, 80, 82, 87 all affected, and its long term aswell, although i think the 11 should be re-routed away from City Hospital which is closed, & send it via MMUH although it doesnt look like the buses down there do much trade

Secrecy does not always mean conspiracy. It is possible that they are waiting for an example vehicle to make a big splash in a PR announcement.

Especially should they be the 130 WMCA ZEBRA ones and the mayor can be photographed behind the wheel (sarcasm)

ill be proved wrong in the end but i was told they are Yutongs, although this has since been denied, somebody said its more Wright stuff

Except I can't actually see where you would build an underground line to that would be worth spending the money on.

The putting a couple of extra platforms underneath New Street for the cross city line, which is the plan @Isle of Stroma mentioned would be useful for extra capacity at New Street, but the only two other corridors out of Birmingham that would justify a new railway are Harborne & Chelmsley Wood. Chelmsley could be served by far cheaper by building a branch line off the Derby line near the old Castle Bromwich Station with stations serving Bromford and Castle Vale. If you built the extra underground platforms at New Street for the cross city, that would also allow for a short underground section to Harborne & Bartley Green.

The underground Platforms at New Street idea has been around since i was at NS back in 1990, there have been many different suggestions made but as yet nothing concrete, but, bare in mind there is a network of old Post Office tunnels beneath NS (ive seen some of them) so you would have to go very deep to get beneath them, plus there are staff only levels beneath NS aswell, then there is the Hotels that have upto 4 floors beneath ground level, i dont think it will happen in my lifetime anyway

You honestly think that's going to happen?

why not, they were the first garage to gain electrics, it makes sense to finish one before you start another, i think you they should complete CV then complete YW before moving on again, probably WN & WA ??

As always, worth letting the dust settle as there are claims this is just the CRSTS2 money promised by the last government after truncating HS2 and is for five years, not just the metro extension.

I'm sure it will come out in the wash.

why can nobody see, your robbing peter to pay paul, The Tram (when it runs) takes money from the buses, so by adding trams to new areas, the buses will lose more money, which will result in routes being reduced in frequency, and also ultimatly bus drivers will lose jobs as the bus they were driving before no longer runs, its crazy why cant people see the tram is not needed

1915 withdrawn from YW with engine problems

cant you just fit a spare, there must a few spare P.U.'s around with so many Scania being withdrawn

That's a lot of buses gone in 1 day wow

They need to make room for the Electrics, plus the fleet needs to be slimmed anyway with service cuts expected in the not too distant future, cant have vehicles standing idle unless they are Hydrogens

How? Why?

well sending it elsewhere means they can run it into the ground while assessing it then hand it over as a pile of junk, it happened before, back in the day 3068 went to central on loan, when it went back to AG it was heap. 1830 / 6830 went to YW when it came back it was so unreliable drivers of ten refused to take it, it got downhraded from a DP

NX74 ZEB is currently on loan from Alexander Dennis to Reading Buses (will not be used in service)

so it will be wrecked before it even gets to Birmingham

4427 is having an engine change. No more there

would there ever be a possibility of Miller Street opening its doors for an open day-esq type of event in the future, a last chance to see certain vehicles before they are gone forever, and to see some that maybe people have not seen at all

Where would you suggest ?

AG maybe