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Are you going to list the May withdrawals etc soon ?

This was answered earlier in this thread, on page 41:
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?msg=328468

(You must have seen that as you quoted my comments! )

ah there you have me, now i have read more, i see my question may have seemed a little pointless, i had not read the article i am grateful to you pointing it out as i have now and im upto speed on it, i confess i do not spend much time on here i dip in and out, just to see what is happening i go for unread topics, when i think Ive seen all i want i depart, but this is not an everyday thing, i apologize for dipping in & out occasionally, im nosey and inquisitive i like to know whats happening, i hate to think im missing something.

obviously i know about the refueling problems, with Hydrogen's and believe me my only criticism is the lack of use, but after 3 years and at one time stating at least another 100 to be ordered, have we seen the end of this white elephant now, or are plans still in place to persist with them in future ?

personally i would like to see at least 1 Electric & 1 Hydrogen do a stint on the Outer Circle (Just Saying) my opinion doesn't matter anyway, wouldn't be hard to put 1 electric on there, i know AG can't charge them but maybe as PB used to have them 1 board could go temporarily to PB to run it ?

Yes, that was an interesting read indeed. It would seem to me that based on the current experience, NX have little to no desire to pursue the hydrogen route at this time, which is understandable as it seems that the electric buses are performing better than expected.

Of course, being out in service all day every day for most of the day, carrying passengers and earning revenue, comes in very handy.

I suppose that while NX do not intend to invest in further hydrogen-fuelled vehicles, they will still make what use they can of these 20 examples they already have.

Great news that they can be used again from next week, if the refuelling facility is available again, but then I guess the question is how long until it breaks down again?

I would anticipate that NX will keep hold of these hydrogens for the short-term, at least until a lot more brand-new electric buses are delivered, then at some point, maybe next year, NX will hand them back to Birmingham City Council, as I presume NX only have them under some kind of lease arrangement. What BCC do with them next is anyone's guess, but it is no longer a problem for NX to deal with!

A Hydrogen Bus actually in service, blimey, when & where can i phot such a rare beast ?

And when you told the driver he'd missed your stop after passing the first one what did he say

he said "we are allowed to delete stops if we are running late in order to keep time, as long as we do not delete timing points !" 

WM are getting like Gestapo, cant use a Camera at West Brom or Coventry (even with a license) now you can only use a bus if The Driver is keeping time, WM Buses are becoming a joke rather quickly i thought the idea was to move people from A to B not for somebody using the vehicle as he sees fit

well, Labour are in IT'S OFFICIAL (just announced) so lets see how much of Andy Streets mess, they can clear up ???

Did you press the bell and make it clear to the driver you wished to alight?

what do you think ?
i just sat there and hoped for the best ?

OF COURSE I STOOD UP & PRESSED THE BELL !!
(some people )

It will do eventually, but only when the time is right and circumstances allow it.

I doubt NX will restore it just to satisfy a few 'nostalgics' and other people who don't actually rely on this service.

There are enough people who already complain about the reliability of this service as it is now, the complaints would only increase if the service becomes more unreliable again.

I was ready to suggest that perhaps a 'phased' reintroduction could be adopted, with evening and Sunday journeys restored to a full loop, but having been faced with a near 25-min wait for an 11A from Bearwood back to Billesley this evening, I think I've changed my mind.

In recent years (before the split) The Circle had become intensely unreliable, often i waited for a bus 45 minutes to the Hour, the display says one will be along in 5 minutes or whatever but nothing came along, no social media info on why its not running, phone AG Garage they say its reported as running with no issues,
The Following day it said there might be delays "yesterday"

The 80 has become as bad, often buses have just ignored stops either when trying to get off or when waiting to get on,
i recently inquired from the driver when i was over carried by 5 stops on the 80 - the response was "we are allowed to delete stops if we are running late in order to keep time, as long as we do not delete timing points !"

REALLY ??!!

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Current locations

PB	BC	WA	WN	PN	Aston	MS	Roberts
E165	E213	E166	E164	E169	E176		E174
E167	E219	E171	E168	E184	E201		E175
E170	E220	E178	E172	E189	E204		E177
	E224	E195	E173	E194			E179
	E225	E198	E191	E196			E180
	E227	E218	E197	E199			E181
	E228	E221	E205	E200			E182
	E231	E222	E207	E203			E183
	E239	E223	E208				E185
	E240	E226	E210				E186
		E230	E211				E187
		E235	E216				E188
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							E192
							E193
							E202
							E206
							E209
							E212
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							E215
							E217

Just a little question, its something that struck me, in time (with Diesel Buses being phased out) will the E prefix be dropped or is it something we have to live with, a brief comparison would be as steam was Phased out D was for Diesel, E was for Electric in time with steam gone, both D & E were dropped, just a question no drama no criticism

sorry i only saw the video yesterday morning, and had no idea how old it was, i do apologize, and will now go away

I see E062 has had a nasty shunt, front end badly damaged by the looks, platform appears to be pushed right back and not much left below the windscreen, from what ive seen......

ive seen less damage finish vehicles off, is this likely the end of E062

probably more where on route you look, between Bull Street and Wolverhampton I have never been on one with less than around 40 people on. They are quieter Bull Street to Edgbaston village

Morrisons to 5 ways, usually, if i go to Birmingham, then Broad St / Corporation St, not arguing, just saying......

I've deliberately ignored the forum recently because of all the rubbish posts.

But having just stood from Birmingham to West Brom and far too intimate with a few people around me, I'm calling bullshit on the above

(This was no different to normal on the 3 days I commute on the metro each week...)

maybe its the time of day ? its certainly not inacurate, but im willing to concede it could be time of day, mid afternoon when im about theyre empty (well maybe upto 20 people at most)

It will be at least a couple of years before we ever see trams running on those tracks in Digbeth; it can't be linked up until the Curzon Street HS2 station nears completion.

just what we need, more congestion and traffic jams due to roads being occupied by empty trams, ive yet to see a full one, i see a lot of people walk away from the stop at Morrisons and get a bus or taxi instead........... thinks what a wonderful mayor we have he provides all the things we dont want and dont need loits dont even work