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#8086
Garage threads / Re: West Bromwich Garage
April 30, 2012, 02:38:15 PM
Quote from: Michael on April 30, 2012, 02:09:55 PM
Presidents in 2000.

No President's have been new to West Brom, They are Yardley Wood cast off's in 2002 when the Trident's replaced them on the 6. 4087-4097, 4099 all moved in May 2002 and then moved to BC when Hockley Closed. I'm guessing to make room for the 42** Volvo's and other buses gained during the closure. West Brom didn't have any President's again until 2007 when the 451 gained refurbished examples.
#8087
Garage threads / Re: West Bromwich Garage
April 29, 2012, 06:22:43 PM
Quote from: Ash on April 29, 2012, 06:17:19 PM
has Coventry ever ran the service?

Yes, they used branded MK2A Metrobuses, not sure when but late 90's/early 00's.
3063, 3065, 3068, 3073, 3074, 3085-7 were branded, might have been more.
#8088
National Express West Midlands / Re: NX Hybrids
April 29, 2012, 05:46:22 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on April 29, 2012, 10:35:53 AM

Didnt they YW plaxtons for the 6 have a yellow circle with 6 in the middle

Yes, new in 2000, and replaced by Trident's in 2002.
#8089
National Express West Midlands / Re: Optare Excel
April 29, 2012, 05:22:50 PM
Quote from: don on April 29, 2012, 10:51:43 AM
Any update.........are the remainder still going. A pic of 711 in NXWM livery appeared on Flickr the other day, so I'm guessing some are still running.

I saw 712 still in 1st livery on Friday on the 81
#8090
The Archive / Re: Some unusual workings?
April 26, 2012, 10:15:18 PM
Quote from: Ash on April 26, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
1756 was on the 51 saw at perry barr at 16:10 is it normal to see eclispes on the 51 around this time, also whilst on the 404 saw a diamond hybrid broken down

It was on the 51 all day, I saw it and took a pic around 10am
#8091
The Archive / Re: Birminghams new Emmison
April 25, 2012, 02:19:19 PM
Quote from: Ash on April 23, 2012, 10:46:04 PM
the 900 is usually operated by the 46xx tridents and its rare to see anything else on it

The full 900 is mostly the 46** Trident's with maybe 1 or 2 older Trident's on there a day.

The 900E has more older Dennis Trident's on it, as I am pretty sure that the 900E does not interwork with the 900 (At least some journeys of the 900 interworks with the 957).

Quote from: NathanJC on April 24, 2012, 10:08:57 AM
& A new Enviro400 Hybrid bus on the 900E aswell a couple weeks back now
I would have loved to see that.
#8092
National Express West Midlands / Re: Wrong link
April 25, 2012, 02:15:12 PM
One I have found, On the Ring and Ride Fleetlist, when you click on fleet number 104, it takes you to 103.
#8093
The Archive / Re: Some unusual workings?
April 24, 2012, 09:40:29 PM
They used to sneak onto the 17 quite a bit while at Bordesley.
#8094
The 451 branded Presidents are 4044, 4047, 4049, 4054, 4055,  4083, 4087 and 4114.
#8095
If that happened then the Merc will have to run as an E journey as far into Birmingham as it can, or they might have to borrow another Scania from another garage if possible
#8096
I saw most, if not all of the buses on the 28, the ex Dundee OmniLink's on there were 7021, 7022, 7023, 7026 and 7027, which were the ones that I were looking for. Also on there were 1401, 1405, 1462, 1469, 1473 and 1835 & 1842.
#8097
National Express West Midlands / Re: NX Hybrids
April 23, 2012, 07:04:25 PM
This is all my personal opinion, however silly it might sound! (sorry it is long winded!)

The President's will have to be transferred elsewhere rather than to WB I think, as only one of their current double decker operated routes does not go into Birmingham, which is the 451, which I would think takes about 14 buses on it in the peak. Unless West Brom are planning to convert other routes such as the 401, 402, 448, 449 to double decker if possible maybe to repalce B6's or 0405Ns, then West Brom would have to lose some Presidents itself, and replace them with double deckers that could go into the city centre. As it seems, there are not enough Volvo B7TL's currently at West Bromwich to cover all of the 74, 75, 80, 82, 87, 127 and 128, so that means that from somewhere, buses will have to come to West Bromwich for all of these routes that are allowed into the city centre, even if they have to introduce Tridents from Wolverhampton/Walsall to help clear Presidents from their city centre routes. Not from Perry Barr, because all of their B7TL's are needed for their own city centre routes. Acocks Green might be able to spare a few more Gemini's, but not enough for the amount that WB might need.

As for Acocks Green, I have 39 President's currently there, and the only routes that could have President's on there are the 11, 966 and the 1, so a few more Presidents could transfer there to cover these 3 routes completely, which guessing would be a total of about 55?, including spares, not forgetting that they still need enough double deckers that can enter the City Centre for the 31 and the 5, and 37 workings.

Birmingham Central still have 31 President's, all of which need to go elsewhere, the solution might be to transfer these to garages not in Birmingham like Wolverhampton, Walsall or Coventry, or maybe even Yardley Wood (for Solihull routes 49, 76 and 18) unless there is a specific reason why they can't, who can spare Trident's to replace the President's at Central. I think that the 900 could be upgraded with the 7 ex 997 Gemini's at Walsall, to replace 7 President's at BC, as there must be enough Enviro's, both old and new at Walsall to Cover the 997 and 51/X51, or even some Gemini's from Acocks Green, transferred for President's.

Somewhere it is more than likely that at least one garage will have to take in a new type of bus that they have not operated before or for a very long time, even if this is only short term until more new buses are ordered next year.

I don't think that many people will agree with what I have said, but this is just what I am thinking (with no insider knowledge of NXWM).
#8098
The Archive / Re: Birminghams new Emmison
April 23, 2012, 05:46:35 PM
Yes, President's used to appear on there a few times, before BC transferred a lot to AG/WB. After this, no, they are all Trident's perhaps for the very rare occasion.
#8099
The Archive / Re: Birminghams new Emmison
April 23, 2012, 05:23:28 PM
It depends, it can vary from having 100% Tridents some days to a mix of both Presidents and Trident's other days.
#8100
The Archive / Re: Birminghams new Emmison
April 23, 2012, 04:58:06 PM
The 59 does have President's on it quite a bit, Last time I saw it there was 2, 4028 and 4031.
I agree with the 900 and 957
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