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The way electric buses are scheduled means fewer buses are out all day on the same route. This is the reason for the lack of route branding in Coventry

This is my point, I just think route branding's time has probably come and gone, if it was to continue I  would suggest group branding eg

PB - Network Sutton - X3, X4, X5, X14 and 907
BC - Network Chelmsley - X12, X13, 14, 94, 95 and 97

I'm led to believe that the new electrics at PB will not be route branded due to them going onto different routes on a working day.
Are we going to see route branding becoming a thing of the past ?

I'm led to believe that the new electrics at PB will not be route branded due to them going onto different routes on a working day.
Are we going to see route branding becoming a thing of the past ?

If true, that's a major supplier of BRT artics (e.g. Belfast Glider) leaving the market. Sprint procurement implications?

https://www.sustainable-bus.com/news/van-hool-stop-production-buses/

Great, we'll have double deckers instead !
Artics will be unpopular with passengers.

They are nothing like an Omnilink

I can't any other garage wanting them 

No, to the best of my knowledge, PB, WB and YW are the only garages never to have had these. (And BY when it was open)

That may change in the near future though...

I hope so, I much prefer the Volvo's (from a passengers point of view).
What is more interesting is what will happen to the Scania double deckers ?

If you read the article, it says that the buses are safe to use, but the HVAC system should be turned off when the vehicle is not in use as a precaution, until a permanent solution can be applied.

It is typical of the Daily Mail though to 'over-egg' the seriousness of this.

In short: a potential issue with the HVAC (heating, ventilation and air-conditioning) system has been identified which could cause a fire risk.

Nothing to do with the battery or electric drivetrain.

Lets hope there are no more of this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13141825/Britains-e-bus-ticking-timebomb-nearly-TWO-THOUSAND-electric-buses-worth-800m-face-urgent-recall-fears-burst-flames.html

Just come across this.

What are trying to achieve with this ?
There have been other comments (most of them irrelevant about this subject and unsubstantiated) about electric buses on this forum, please think again and do some research before you post things like this.

Wouldn't it make sense to have them at a closer garage like AG or BC because of tyseley?

If it was a straight forward as that it would of already been done by now

[The buses were bought with funding from the government that was awarded to Birmingham City Council.]

I'm afraid that your comment is untrue Stu.

I would point you in the direction of the press release issued on behalf of Waseem Zaffar in 2021 when these vehicles were first used, where a breakdown of the funding was given.
The buses were paid for by a combination of....  OLEV funding, the GBSLEP,  FCH JU (a European Union project) funding and the rest made up by Birmingham City Council themselves.
Last time I checked it was indeed taxpayers who gave BCC their spending money, where they choose to waste it is out of ours hands sadly.
You will also find reference in recent newspaper articles on the council going bankrupt that they have to date spent £50million on both the Hydrogen Bus project and Cycle lanes combined although the exact amount spent on each isn't disclosed.
Why would buses funded wholly by the UK government carry EU flags?
The only money that came from the UK government was the OLEV funding. If the government paid in full for buses, especially such high cost zero emission buses, every operator and authority would be at their door with a begging bowl and the country would be bankrupt within a year!

So please do forgive people for showing an interest in these buses, especially those of us who are now looking at fortnightly bin collections!

if you look at Stu's comment, he wrote:

The buses were bought with funding from the government that was awarded to Birmingham City Council.

This has nothing to do with Council Tax Payers

The clue to when they can be fueled is you'll see them in service.

25th come and gone with no news

Exactly, that's my point, there is no news, we all want to see the Hydrogens and Electrics in service but we're all going to have to wait !

Are we seriously going this road again, it's been documented on this forum many times about the Hydrogen situation, yes it's frustrating but not as frustrating as it is for NX. This will be sorted in time, we are all going to have to be patient

Nice to see 2104 on loan, mainly used on the FD service and also a short stint on the 28. I hope PB gets some if these in the future to replace those horrible Scanias

So they are breaking the rules then...

They quite simply shouldn't be going under there, with them being exempt it's been said from NX.

What part you don't understand that these routes can't be Decker operated I don't understand.

He's clearly not listening.

Whenever I have been at Bradford Place, WA buses run dead via Caldmore Road, Upper Hall Lane and Dudley Street. Also the B7RLEs can't go under the Bridgeman Street bridge either (as they're never on 39) but they're at Bradford Place every day.... are they meant to run dead down Bridgeman Street?

B7RLE's have been on the 39:
9/02/24 - 2133 was on there on the 1039 and 1209 Walsall - Stowlawn and 1124 Stowlawn - Walsall