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in the end i think buses will be pushed out of the city, to give trams priority, in my opinion the tram is a waste of time and money close Broad St to let the tram have exclusive access, put it under five ways then rejoin road traffic to Morrisons (what a joke) Hagley Rd cant cope now during peak periods, with a tram in the middle it will be a nightmare, talk about extending the tram via Hagley Rd is an even bigger joke, i have never been a fan of the tram, and even less so now, to the point ive only ridden in 3 times, and NOT since the extensions, i know it wont make any difference losing one fare, but its my protest, Electric / Hybrid / Hydrogen Buses im fully in favour of, but the tram ? are we not in danger of going backwards to the 50's ?

Yup

Once upon a time a company known as WMPTE OBTAINED 8 Ford A, Alexander S B22F (JOV 730P - 737P) all were based at Acocks Green and worked the ill fated Dial-A-Bus, since 1975 i followed these little buses, and their friends Commers 4238 & 4241
(EOF 238L & 241L), im appealing to EVERYBODY on this site, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE if you have ANY photographs of these vehicles, would it be possible for you to email them to me please, destined for my own personal collection ONLY if you can help, please email FORDALEXANDERB22F@GMAIL.COM

I forgot to mention that in the same files section on the facebook group, you'll find a pdf from me called 'BS75'.

The first edition of the B&S / DJS fleetbook came out in 1975 but in A5 format & without allocations. The BS75 pdf complements this with allocations (& corrections) in numerical & depot order as at 1/8/75.

Thanks Dave, my interest started with the introduction of The Ford A's, before that i knew nothing about buses, except as a child i was told "come away from those dirty smelly buses" and IF we went anywhere by bus it was get on and off as fast as you can dont talk to anybody dont move just look out of the window.......
all changed with the introduction of The Ford A
somebody brought a Telfor / Witton fleetlist to school the got it from WH Smith if i remember rightly, a friend then said if you get a proper one go to the WM Shop and ask for a fleetbook, well i got one, and that is when i started learning, my first wife threw most of them out the earliest survivor is 1989, but i did get some older ones from ebay a while ago, then last week i decided instead of flipping through for information, start a database, just fleet number, reg number, vehicle type, and all known garage allocations, then once finished i will add what became of the vehicles that survived the cutters torch (where known) therefore saving wear and tear on the books :)
that database im thinking i may offer to you and Tony when im done, so im trying to eliminate gaps where i can.....

i do update a current one (for me) every month but the mistake i made was when a vehicle leaves i remove it from the list - which in hindsight i shouldnt have done, but live and learn.......

thanks its not quite what im looking for, im creating a database in similar form to fleet books, but with every known allocation added instead of just a single one, ive downloaded all the ones i could find anyway  :)

I  still have all my B&S / DJS fleet books , all rather dog-eared now though !!  Very rare that I mark a "cop" in any of them now - has to be a museum / rally sighting . . . . . . I wish.  :D

Could we possibly agree a deal for me to "borrow" them please any pre 1978, then 1979, 1981, 1984 & 1990 please plus anything 1992 - 2020

How do i find him ?

[Thnks guys, thought it was a hopeless task ive got 1978, 80, 82, 83, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 91 (and 2021) im trying to build up a database of the PTE Garage Allocations as i keep one upto date (but not with historic allocations) its something i noticed is missing from the web, once a vehicle leaves the company its difficult to find anything else out, my intention was to put this together starting with the PTE and even following vehicles that have survived upto now at least if nobody else finds it interesting i would.... 8)]

Thnks guys, thought it was a hopeless task ive got 1978, 80, 82, 83, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 91 (and 2021) im trying to build up a database of the PTE Garage Allocations as i keep one upto date (but not with historic allocations) its something i noticed is missing from the web, once a vehicle leaves the company its difficult to find anything else out, my intention was to put this together starting with the PTE and even following vehicles that have survived upto now at least if nobody else finds it interesting i would.... 8)

for some years i have been collecting the DJS / B&S WEST MIDLANDS P.T.E. FLEET LISTS i've now come to the point where is still have gaps but cant find the ones i need does anybody know where / if i can find these please ?