Anybody know if most of these will go to West Brom? Theyre pretty tired and rattly now and too small for the 31/32/33 routes that theyre used on but might be suited to contract services
Cannock have a nice new Dart for the 31
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/2315.html
Well a 12 year old ex Dual Door London one anyway
The MPDs are good around cannock due to badly parked cars etc on most routes not so good on long services need a more heavy duty bus VDLs both new and older ones in c :annocks fleet do the job well :)
Some of the older darts, UVG bodied & the odd pointer have been withdrawn at Cannock recently, anybody know what will replace them??
Recently theres been a handful of darts transfered from elsewhere, the X523 GGO In Cannock which was listed in fleet updates, but recently theres been a S-KHN pointer in Stafford anda Y-TGM One in telford, but these havent yet been listed in fleet updates, anyone know where they came from and of anymore to come?
Not more crappy darts come on arriva stop sending the tat down here but then again nothing changes at Cannock/Stafford
i hate em, i hate most of Cannocks fleet its crap.MPDs - rubbish, noisy rattly no legroom and unpleasant to travel on. SPD/SLF - Much the same. SB200s- Ok but massively underpowered and HORRENDOUSLY noisy when having to over rev cos the engines too small. Scania Omnilink- these seem ok, quiet, a bit diwn market for the X31 tho, it should be a dual purpose bus at least! SB120- really crap! Worn out tatty seats, and legroom that a midget would struggle with! Volvo B10BLE- Probably my favourite, plenty of room, confortable, and sounds like a proper bus not some screaming hair dryer!
spot on description of the current cannock fleet B10 volvos are the best remember when I had bring a alx200 low floor dart to Hinkley ex pye green which had just been refurbished for one of the 3601-12 volvos noisy clapped out crap down the A5 struggled for 50 mph luxury on the way back nice cruise with a smooth engine would hold 60 easy felt quicker though and would not be suprised if it was.
Yep. The darts are truly rubbish. There just about bearable on local routes, but what are they thinking of running them to Walsall Wolverhampton etc? Awful, and if youve ever caught the sat only Cannock to Telford route, 1hr 20 mins on a MPD? absolute hell!
could never stand the 76 (876) it was when I was there and in a MPD was hell screaming on top revs on the A449
To answer original question I have :-
2359 S614KHN - SY - EX ARRIVA SCOTLAND WEST
23?? S619KHN - SY- EX ARRIVA SCOTLAND WEST
2364 S632KHN - SY - EX ARRIVA SCOTLAND WEST
2366 S643KHN- SD - EX ARRIVA SCOTLAND WEST
2383 Y40TGM - TF - EX ARRIVA NORTH EAST PREVIOUSLY SCOTLAND AND TGM
2384 Y50TGM - TF - EX ARRIVA NORTH EAST PREVIOUSLY SCOTLAND AND TGM
Tony
Any more transfers due in? maybe Cannock will get some
as long as its not darts or dafs please
S614 KHN is running from Stafford not Shrewsbury
Quote from: bob on July 04, 2012, 06:41:58 PM
S614 KHN is running from Stafford not Shrewsbury
ok based on other reports entered service stafford 24/6 then transferred and entered service at SY 26/6 so this is back at Stafford now?
it was yesterday
There was an ALX200 bodied either Dart or B6LE on the 26 Pye Green yesterday, it had a private reg num, looked like ut had been refurbed and quite smart. anyone know anymore about this? why are all these buses bein transferred in & what are they replacing espec at cannock :)
Quote from: bob on July 08, 2012, 11:15:48 AM
There was an ALX200 bodied either Dart or B6LE on the 26 Pye Green yesterday, it had a private reg num, looked like ut had been refurbed and quite smart. anyone know anymore about this? why are all these buses bein transferred in & what are they replacing espec at cannock :)
It is a 10 year old, forth hand ex D&G vehicle fleetnumber 2328. A photo will appear on the main site in a couple of minutes
is it destined for Cannock services?
Quote from: tphi12000 on July 02, 2012, 02:25:58 PM
To answer original question I have :-
2359 S614KHN - SY - EX ARRIVA SCOTLAND WEST
23?? S619KHN - SY- EX ARRIVA SCOTLAND WEST
2364 S632KHN - SY - EX ARRIVA SCOTLAND WEST
2366 S643KHN- SD - EX ARRIVA SCOTLAND WEST
2383 Y40TGM - TF - EX ARRIVA NORTH EAST PREVIOUSLY SCOTLAND AND TGM
2384 Y50TGM - TF - EX ARRIVA NORTH EAST PREVIOUSLY SCOTLAND AND TGM
Tony
Stafford's 2366 has been caught in a flood right up to to window level, interior totally wrecked, cannot see that getting repaired
And is Cannock getting anymore?
The P & R reg darts need replacing cos theyre knackered
agree they need replacing but as they have only just had some 61 plates it will be a while just more cast offs
Newer 02 plate onward darts with the quieter engines would be better than the old 1s
Quote from: bob on July 08, 2012, 08:43:16 PM
Newer 02 plate onward darts with the quieter engines would be better than the old 1s
more than likely the midland tat
yea but the majority of the midlands are MPD darts, not really suitable for anything other than the 2 or 68, a lot of the time full size buses or bigger darts/sb120s are used on the 31/32/33
The famous 5 :) the 5 51 plate rattle boxes from cannock, any1 agree that these either need withdrawing or transfering now as they are too small to work Cannock routes?? its not just the 51 plates though now
2209 SN03 LGC
2268 SK52 MLE
2270 SK52MLJ
2274 FK52 MML
2276 SN53 ESG
2277 SN53 ESO
Just transfered from leicester to cannock, they are better than the 51 plates but theres no difference in size so are these really suitable for cannock?
the 51 plates should go to stafford and be swapped for W231/2/3 SNR and a couple of R or S reg SLFs i would say P314 FEA but surely thats up for withdrawal?
p314 fea? wasnt this 1 withdrawn ages ago? theres p307 fea and p316 fea left at stafford and i agree about the w/snr darts, i started a thing on here about those
its not even on the fleetlist was definately in service there last week
are you talking about the oold p/fea darts that were route 8 branded? or the ex-burton dart?
Ah yea typo sorry i meant Spryte-bodied former 8 branded P311 FEA, it must be coming up for withdrawal surely? Altho i never got why they withdrew the others of this batch to be honest, I always thought they were a bit better than the pointers. Had strange seats though in a hard to explain way, different to the P316 onwards/ R reg Pointer seats
wheres 2270 now and it was at cannock before though wasnt it and as for the p/fea's going to cannock, why replace crappy 51 plate darts with buses that are surely due for withdrawal soon?? if cannock are to have more darts why not bring 2390 v338mbv to cannock from burton as cannock have the other 1?
Well they could send 3 of the 51 plates & have the W reg ones at least. V338 MBV is a horrid bus, noisy rattly and horrid interior, bright yellow panels, yukk, send it back to burton
well they could send the 51 plates to derby and send 5 w/snr darts from there because derby do have a couple of the ex - stafford mpd's in service up there 2284/2285
imnot really a fan of them but they are better than the 51 plate darts
Ex London Darts that were meant to be coming to the Midland operation 2151 , 2154 - 2156 are parked outside Derby Ascot Road Depot freshly painted . Tony
Surely OFT has finished looking at the case and Midland should have these Darts soon.
Any pics of these now there repainted??
Quote from: arrivaaston on October 21, 2012, 06:58:57 PM
Any pics of these now there repainted??
pics of these 4 would have been difficult today as they are parked along the edge of the depot amongst trainers and others service darts . Of interest is that ex ANW Olympian 3283 is still there parked by the gates.Tony
Are these darts x/ggo? And will they be put in to service any time soon??
Think theyre 51 platers
Quote from: bob on October 22, 2012, 12:18:46 AM
Think theyre 51 platers
Yes, registrations are 2151-6 (LJ51 DAU/BU/V/Y/Z/CE)
I've just saw R330 TJW on route 68 to Wolverhampton I thought this was a Stafford depot bus any ideas if it's on hire ?
I had this 1 this morning, I've just got back to cannock and just saw 2347 wich was also a stafford veihcle so are these hired or permanent transfers??
christ more crappy darts!!! maybe theyve been displaced by b6s at stafford?
What will happen to the B6s when Wednesfield is officially Arriva'd ? It will leave Stafford short of buses. I doubt Cannock will get any more of the R-TJW's, it looks like the batch are starting to slip out of use, a couple were scrapped i think. Although, saying that, theyre probably better inside than the S-YOG's and the 03 Plate sb120s st Cannock, now they are HORRIFIC!!
2329 is sitting with withdrawn buses in cannocks yard, such a shame really as this was 1 of the refurbished ones
2332 still working at Stafford - been reprieved twice as others have had major faults.
Cant wait til theyve all gone tbh crap buses!!
I thought the stafford to burntwood route was operated out of Cannock? So either 2337 is now cannocks or u meant it was on the Stafford to Great Wyrley route
They are confusing the college routes, don't no much about the Stafford route all I no is its the 837 wich is Stafford - Great Wyrley
The 835 is some how connected with the 31 as is the 836 but the 836 arrives in cannock to work the 5pm 60
Can any Arriva expert tell me if these two, seen in the Ibstock area, are Stevensons or Leicester vehicles? It's sort of borderline but I suspect Leicester ..... :)
Many thanks!
They are leicesters mate, transfered from Telford along with 2373, 2375, 2376 and 2377, I did have a querey about these myself mentioned in another topic
2347 now cannocks, seen workin the Pye Greens tonight
Stafford does the 837 Great Wyrley. I was driving it earlier today with 2626 V226KDA
I saw it coming in to cannock tonight about 4.55, I assume you was droppin at cannock then to Great Wyrley
Yep. Stafford has done the 837 the last few years as its sponsored and they get quite a bit of money for it which in turn keeps some of the rural routes going in Stafford.
Cheers, thanks!
No worries, I get confused myself with buse between leicester and burton especialy the BF52***
I can remember when the M/MOJ darts at stafford used to turn up on the 837, bet they had standing loads
hope not
Did hear that 2231/2232/2233 were going to wardles. Subject to change.
No not wardle!! Send them to cannock!! Or burton or back to derby!!
What would Cannock want with them? Theyre not very good buses
I quite like them and thy would be better than the MPD's at cannock
So if stafford depot is going to be V/KDA Volvos and the 4 V/KDA darts, what will happen to 2130, 2262, 2266 and 2267?? 2330 and 2347 are at cannock, stafford still have 2332, 2231, 2232 and 2233 and where has 2359 gone?
all 9 MPDs still allocated to stafford and are NOT leaving. 2352 S352YOG was OFF FLEET last Thursday and pretty sure its left and is now at Cannock.
Not seen 2352 in Cannock, any chance it might of gone to Shrewsbury with 2345 S345YOG/2346 S346YOG/ 2348 S348YOG/ 2353 S353YOG, the only S/YOGS at Cannock are 2350 (Reserve), 2351 and 2347
2349 is to go OFF FLEET very soon. 2352 is OFF FLEET and is parked up by wash alongside withdrawn 2332 R332TJW.
Are they going to be allocated anywhere else, sold or scrapped? I'd of thought they've got abit of life left in them yet
2347 was in Cannock on Pye Greens yesterday
Whilst driving the 837 this morning, 2330 was on a 33 and 2347 was parked up at Hednesford. 2349 is now off fleet and is parked up with the other withdrawn buses: 2332/2337/2344/2349/2352.
I've always wondered why Leicester transfered the sk52 rather than the y/ybc? I know several were transfered, I personaly thought leicester would of kept the 'newer' ones rather than the older ones
That is a good question they seem to be shifting a lot of buses to other place at the moment I reckon new buses will be going to them if any on order so more leciester scrap for Cannock
Always wondered that 1, and any chance of that versa been repaired?
Have not being keeping up with arriva did not know a versa was smashed up.
2952 I think it is there's pics of it on flickr, all the fronts smashed in
Quote from: arrivaaston on December 28, 2012, 09:18:12 PM
2952 I think it is there's pics of it on flickr, all the fronts smashed in
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55205968@N03/8209088509/
more than likely be repaired, damage doesn't look too bad.
I wish theyd transfer all the MPDs and SB120s out of Cannock permanent!! MPDs are too small and SB120s dont even have enough leg room for a shorta**e!!
Quote from: arrivaaston on December 28, 2012, 09:18:12 PM
2952 I think it is there's pics of it on flickr, all the fronts smashed in
crikey but yes would be repairable and worth it with its age still plenty of life left
Quote from: ARRIVA SD on January 02, 2013, 07:00:12 PM
Anybody seen any of these 3 Dennis low floors around recently / S347 YOG / 2347 / S349 YOG / 2349 / S352 YOG / 2352
2347 was reported as been parked up at Thurmaston last weekend
Still working at Stafford are 2231/2/3. 2349/2352 withdrawn parked up at Stafford along with 2332/2337/2344. HTH Dave
There withdrawn aren't they and aren't the S/YOG darts supposed to be going to cannock? There's a few S/YOG darts in Cannocks yard from Shrewsbury
Noooooooooooo not more crap :-/
Quote from: bob on January 03, 2013, 06:32:03 AM
Noooooooooooo not more crap :-/
It looks at Cannock will forever be a Dennis Dart SLF garage if the longer ones are going there I would not be suprised if you say bye bye to the VDL all types and the volvos
Maybe the SLFs might go to Wednesfield? They could have a sweepstake on whether any of Midlands two-bit routes could fill one? lol
Quote from: bob on January 03, 2013, 09:03:59 PM
Maybe the SLFs might go to Wednesfield? They could have a sweepstake on whether any of Midlands two-bit routes could fill one? lol
You could call Wednesfield Cannock 2 eventually hill top cannock 3 Some of the E200 buses pop up now and again
Quote from: ARRIVA SD on January 07, 2013, 09:05:15 PM
I made a comment in the past saying would not be surprised if the SD / S / YOG could come to CK they are withdrawn at SD
you were right they are here.
Hopefully theyll just go like the p & r reg ones for scrap
Just to correct the main page, 2307 and 2316 are NOT scrapped, from what I saw in the yard today there's
2307, 2308, 2316 (P-FEA)
2329, 2330, 2332, 2335 (R-TJW)
All the S/YOG darts that were there from Shrewsbury seem to of gone from Cannocks yard, anybody know where they're headed??
And there's a Midland dart in the depot, couldn't see the fleet number as there was another dart parked behind it
Am u sure it was a midland dart could of bin a wardle 1 lol. I hope there all headin for the scrapyard there nothin but junk lol
95 % sure it was a midland 1, it looked like it had Midland above the drivers window
Quote from: arrivaaston on January 08, 2013, 07:06:06 PM
Just to correct the main page, 2307 and 2316 are NOT scrapped, from what I saw in the yard today there's
2307, 2308, 2316 (P-FEA)
2329, 2330, 2332, 2335 (R-TJW)
All the S/YOG darts that were there from Shrewsbury seem to of gone from Cannocks yard, anybody know where they're headed??
And there's a Midland dart in the depot, couldn't see the fleet number as there was another dart parked behind it
I think the midland dart at cannock is Accident damaged it could be waiting a repair
There was a Midland MPD that had been in a bump was parked around the back then vanished so good chance it was a Midland one will see if it becomes Arriva as it needs a new front so a repaint will be needed and a refurb yes a polished turd.
Whats people's opinion of these buses? I think they were ok for minibus replacement when new as thats what theyre designed for but other than that find them noisy and horrid to travel on and completely unsuitable for anything other than the most local short route. 52 plate upwards are marginally better as they don't have crappy B series engines
Quote from: bob on March 13, 2013, 06:09:36 PM
Whats people's opinion of these buses? I think they were ok for minibus replacement when new as thats what theyre designed for but other than that find them noisy and horrid to travel on and completely unsuitable for anything other than the most local short route. 52 plate upwards are marginally better as they don't have crappy B series engines
I would say that Telford's MPDs (W-SNR and 2135) are okay. They're not bad - but I do not like the 52-plates as much, because they vibrate a lot when stationery!
FK52 MML in Cannock vibrates horrendously! It was parked up out of service for ages at Cannock but has been back in use sounding even worse lately! The BU51 batch are really knackered now, SN03 LGC is probably the only decent one
Quote from: bob on March 13, 2013, 09:30:12 PM
FK52 MML in Cannock vibrates horrendously! It was parked up out of service for ages at Cannock but has been back in use sounding even worse lately! The BU51 batch are really knackered now, SN03 LGC is probably the only decent one
I remember that Telford used to have 2 03-plate MPDs, branded for the 76/77 service - but with the 76 abolished, they were sold to some other company. Telford used to have FK52 MML, didn't sound too bad when we had it - but that was probably a while back.
It probably hasn't been very well maintained at Cannock. They used to be used mainly on the 33 service in Cannock which is what the 51 plates wei bought for but are used on anything nowadays including big bus routes
Quote from: bob on March 14, 2013, 07:32:55 AM
It probably hasn't been very well maintained at Cannock. They used to be used mainly on the 33 service in Cannock which is what the 51 plates wei bought for but are used on anything nowadays including big bus routes
That's what it's like at Telford - a lot of the small buses are used on the 11/22s and 33/55s.