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Title: X9
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 19, 2012, 08:47:39 PM
How about a limited stop service between Stourbridge and Birmingham, don`t think its ever been tried.

Would travel normal route to Halesowen, then take the dual carriage way to Quinton (avoiding Spies lane & Manor Lane) and then normal line of route to Birmingham.

Stops could be

Lye Cross
Colley Gate
Halesowen Bus Station
Quinton (Toby Carvery)
Bearwood (Kings Head)
Ivy Bush
Broad Street
Great Charles Street
Colmore Row

Would be favoured by Stourbridge commuters as the price of train travel between Stourbridge & Birmingham is becoming really expensive!!!
Title: Re: X9
Post by: winston on September 19, 2012, 08:54:36 PM
I've suggested that on here previously, taking the former 19 route down Quinton Expressway. You can have a combination of the existing 9 stopping service with an 9 limited stop/express service for passengers that use the full end to end route
Title: Re: X9
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 19, 2012, 08:58:50 PM
Sorry Winston, only just noticed you had already suggested it!!

It does make sense, many other areas have there own limited stop services into Birmingham, why not Stourbridge, Merry Hill & Dudley!!!
Title: Re: X9
Post by: John on September 19, 2012, 08:59:38 PM
Not a bad idea about the X9, I was thinking along the same lines about an express Stourbridge service a while back. I don't know how long it takes from Birmingham to Stourbridge on the train, but an express service would cut the bus journey from an hour to around 40 minutes?

I know I'm going off topic a bit, but...
Another one I was thinking off was an express service from Birmingham to Wolverhampton (I think it has been discussed elsewhere on the forum). I know there is the metro for that, but it would be good to have an express bus as well for people that don't want to pay extra to use the Metro, maybe the 926.
Stoping at Bearwood, Dudley, Roseville and a few places in between. Whenever I have done the 126 from end to end, there are always a good few other people travelling the whole route, which takes around 90 Minutes, with traffic and stops. With most of the roads used by the 126 are dual carriageways, it might not get caught up in too much traffic.
Title: Re: X9
Post by: winston on September 19, 2012, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: Stuharris63 on September 19, 2012, 08:58:50 PM
Sorry Winston, only just noticed you had already suggested it!!

It does make sense, many other areas have there own limited stop services into Birmingham, why not Stourbridge, Merry Hill & Dudley!!!

It's fine not a problem..... I see you've not long joined, you've got a fair bit to plough through.

I agree it has the potential to compete with rail or even encourage people to leave their cars at home and take the bus in to the City Centre if journey times can be cut
Title: Re: X9
Post by: richie on September 19, 2012, 09:39:10 PM
It would work up until bearwood then get snarled up on the Hagley rd
Title: Re: X9
Post by: vinh1000 on September 19, 2012, 09:39:47 PM
Quote from: John-s-91 on September 19, 2012, 08:59:38 PM
Not a bad idea about the X9, I was thinking along the same lines about an express Stourbridge service a while back. I don't know how long it takes from Birmingham to Stourbridge on the train, but an express service would cut the bus journey from an hour to around 40 minutes?

I know I'm going off topic a bit, but...
Another one I was thinking off was an express service from Birmingham to Wolverhampton (I think it has been discussed elsewhere on the forum). I know there is the metro for that, but it would be good to have an express bus as well for people that don't want to pay extra to use the Metro, maybe the 926.
Stoping at Bearwood, Dudley, Roseville and a few places in between. Whenever I have done the 126 from end to end, there are always a good few other people travelling the whole route, which takes around 90 Minutes, with traffic and stops. With most of the roads used by the 126 are dual carriageways, it might not get caught up in too much traffic.
agree
train takes about 25-30 mins to Stourbridge Junction with another 3 for the hopper to town centre
126 takes ages as ive seen train is only 20 minutes (i think fare is £3.80 return) and metro is 36 mins (£4.80 single i believe)
A express bus would be useful
74/75 than 79 is not much quicker either :(
Title: Re: X9
Post by: winston on September 19, 2012, 10:16:34 PM
Quote from: richie on September 19, 2012, 09:39:10 PM
It would work up until bearwood then get snarled up on the Hagley rd

It would also get stuck coming down Manor Way from the Motorway Island in the PM peak, but the standard 9's get suck in that as well.

I still think it has potential if it was limited to stopping at only the busier bus stops and provide faster journey's for end to end users throughtout the day, not just in the peaks to attract commuters
Title: Re: X9
Post by: Westy on September 19, 2012, 10:27:44 PM
Back in early deregulation days, there was a 926 Dudley to Birmingham.

It didnt last long, along with the 901 Walsall to Lichfield to Roughley to Brum!
Title: Re: X9
Post by: John on September 19, 2012, 10:31:24 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on September 19, 2012, 09:39:47 PM
A express bus would be useful

It would be useful for the passengers, on both an express Birmingham to Stourbridge and Birmingham - Wolverhampton, but would they be able to make money for NXWM because they could not run the route making a loss. Most people using the 9 and the 126 would only use parts of the routes, with a small number using the whole route. Just look at the X31.
Title: Re: X9
Post by: winston on September 19, 2012, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 19, 2012, 10:27:44 PM
Back in early deregulation days, there was a 926 Dudley to Birmingham.

It didnt last long, along with the 901 Walsall to Lichfield to Roughley to Brum!

The 900 & 966 the only original Timesaver routes that still remain today, abeit in a shortened versions
Title: Re: X9
Post by: danny on September 19, 2012, 11:16:15 PM
I am a firm believer that an X9 and X26 has potential, only problems i can see is the quinton expressway links to the motorway, soo if their are delays their it could back up the expressway defying the object.
with the X26 their is the problem of the wolverhampton road/birmingham new road has no such express road equivilent, soo a bus would simply catch up with standard 126's in the same traffic conditions,
I am however all in fovour of express services, it is cheaper and works if the conditiond are right, the black country seems to have less to work with in terms of lack off expressways, bar the black country route.
Title: Re: X9
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 20, 2012, 11:14:30 AM
I still think Soho Road should be bulldozed and turned into a dual carriageway, think how quickly you could get to West Brom on the 74/75 :D
Title: Re: X9
Post by: Discodave on September 20, 2012, 12:06:57 PM
express services only work if the road inferstructure can take bus lanes and has the capacity I see a lot of other posts about express route but as pointed out there are many pinch points at peak times and the train is quicker (yes I know it costs more) the only sucessful express route which has a slow bus is the X51 but the A34 has Bus lanes and the room for them and not just a lane taken from other traffic and causing delays look at the 529 bus lanes on the A454 but as they take out a lane there is a queue from horsley fields up to the Yale Factory both ways and the 529 has to sit in the queue before actually getting to the bus lane aree with express buses too but if they were sucessful would they have been introduced already
Title: Re: X9
Post by: Tony on September 20, 2012, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 20, 2012, 11:14:30 AM
I still think Soho Road should be bulldozed and turned into a dual carriageway, think how quickly you could get to West Brom on the 74/75 :D

That is why you have the tram!
Title: Re: X9
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 21, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
True! I'd still like to see Soho Road bulldozed though :) Doubt many soho road "customers" even pay anyway
Title: Re: X9
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 21, 2012, 03:31:11 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 21, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
True! I'd still like to see Soho Road bulldozed though :) Doubt many soho road "customers" even pay anyway

Most 'Soho Rd' customers are Youth  ;D
Title: Re: X9
Post by: vinh1000 on September 21, 2012, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 21, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
True! I'd still like to see Soho Road bulldozed though :) Doubt many soho road "customers" even pay anyway
When India won the cricket all indians allowed on for free-  others PAY
most fare dodge - dont care
Most drivers are known to youth and some are known to issue free daysavers to them
Title: Re: X9
Post by: Tony on September 21, 2012, 09:10:49 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on September 21, 2012, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 21, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
True! I'd still like to see Soho Road bulldozed though :) Doubt many soho road "customers" even pay anyway
When India won the cricket all indians allowed on for free-  others PAY
most fare dodge - dont care
Most drivers are known to youth and some are known to issue free daysavers to them

You are posting complete rubbish again.
Racist comments are just stupid
Soho Road has just as much of a mix of age as any other route.
Soho Road is not the worst route for fare evasion
Title: Re: X9
Post by: sonic84 on September 26, 2012, 05:54:36 PM
The X9 has the potential to work but like others have posted, the prob would be the Manor Way / Quinton Expressway during peak times which on occaisions can take longer than Mucklows Hill between 5-6pm.

I am very surprised there is not a limited edition route between Halesowen and Birmingham though. 
Title: Re: X9
Post by: winston on September 26, 2012, 06:21:20 PM
Quote from: sonic84 on September 26, 2012, 05:54:36 PM
The X9 has the potential to work but like others have posted, the prob would be the Manor Way / Quinton Expressway during peak times which on occaisions can take longer than Mucklows Hill between 5-6pm.

I am very surprised there is not a limited edition route between Halesowen and Birmingham though.

There had been a limited stop service for a long time,

WMPTE 902 B'ham - Hasbury (Limited Stop)
WMT Timesaver 900 Coventry - Hasbury (Limited Stop)
WMT/TWM 19S B'ham - Hasbury (Limited Stop)
Title: Re: X9
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 27, 2012, 09:45:36 AM
Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2012, 09:10:49 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on September 21, 2012, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 21, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
True! I'd still like to see Soho Road bulldozed though :) Doubt many soho road "customers" even pay anyway
When India won the cricket all indians allowed on for free-  others PAY
most fare dodge - dont care
Most drivers are known to youth and some are known to issue free daysavers to them

You are posting complete rubbish again.
Racist comments are just stupid
Soho Road has just as much of a mix of age as any other route.
Soho Road is not the worst route for fare evasion

Whats the worst route for fare evasion then ???
Title: Re: X9
Post by: vinh1000 on September 27, 2012, 10:01:17 AM
Quote from: NathanJC on September 27, 2012, 09:45:36 AM
Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2012, 09:10:49 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on September 21, 2012, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 21, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
True! I'd still like to see Soho Road bulldozed though :) Doubt many soho road "customers" even pay anyway
When India won the cricket all indians allowed on for free-  others PAY
most fare dodge - dont care
Most drivers are known to youth and some are known to issue free daysavers to them

You are posting complete rubbish again.
Racist comments are just stupid
Soho Road has just as much of a mix of age as any other route.
Soho Road is not the worst route for fare evasion

Whats the worst route for fare evasion then ???
Yes what is the worst route?
fyi i take this from experience !!!  :o
I spoke to a driver that is based at PB yesterday and asked him if he knew a Tony @ PB and indeed he does  ;D
Title: Re: X9
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 27, 2012, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on September 27, 2012, 10:01:17 AM
Quote from: NathanJC on September 27, 2012, 09:45:36 AM
Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2012, 09:10:49 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on September 21, 2012, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 21, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
True! I'd still like to see Soho Road bulldozed though :) Doubt many soho road "customers" even pay anyway
When India won the cricket all indians allowed on for free-  others PAY
most fare dodge - dont care
Most drivers are known to youth and some are known to issue free daysavers to them

You are posting complete rubbish again.
Racist comments are just stupid
Soho Road has just as much of a mix of age as any other route.
Soho Road is not the worst route for fare evasion

Whats the worst route for fare evasion then ???
Yes what is the worst route?
fyi i take this from experience !!!  :o
I spoke to a driver that is based at PB yesterday and asked him if he knew a Tony @ PB and indeed he does  ;D

I thought the Soho Rd (11A,C/74/75 - were the worst for fare evasion, clearley not
Title: Re: X9
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 27, 2012, 12:06:17 PM
It could be the 14?
Title: Re: X9
Post by: Discodave on September 27, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
a lot of routes suffer with fare evasion and suprisingly its not the ones we think run through rough areas no expert but i reckon its on routes we would say are nice (from a drivers point of view)
Title: Re: X9
Post by: danny on September 27, 2012, 02:30:43 PM
i was on the 49 once and we got stopped by the inspector squad an transport police outside northield, where the 18 joins the route and the X64 carries on to bartley, and was shocked that so many people were asked off the buss, and the other side of the road wasnt much better either xx
Title: Re: X9
Post by: Tony on September 27, 2012, 10:18:43 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on September 27, 2012, 10:01:17 AM
Quote from: NathanJC on September 27, 2012, 09:45:36 AM
Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2012, 09:10:49 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on September 21, 2012, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 21, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
True! I'd still like to see Soho Road bulldozed though :) Doubt many soho road "customers" even pay anyway
When India won the cricket all indians allowed on for free-  others PAY
most fare dodge - dont care
Most drivers are known to youth and some are known to issue free daysavers to them

You are posting complete rubbish again.
Racist comments are just stupid
Soho Road has just as much of a mix of age as any other route.
Soho Road is not the worst route for fare evasion

Whats the worst route for fare evasion then ???
Yes what is the worst route?
fyi i take this from experience !!!  :o
I spoke to a driver that is based at PB yesterday and asked him if he knew a Tony @ PB and indeed he does  ;D

Yes the operations manager at PB is called Tony, I am not normally based at Perry Barr, although I did spend a fortnight there covering another job last month

Tony
Title: Re: X9
Post by: monkeyjoe on September 27, 2012, 10:46:51 PM
Ask Tony to put some decent state buses on the 94 then will ya fella? Cheers  ;D

I'll get bored if it soon.