Most of Coventry's Enviro 400s are to receive 21 route branding, properly over the next couple of days, not little window strips like the one has
Thanks for the update - no doubt there'll be some photos appearing soon :)
I saw 4833 earlier with the branding. Not sure orange was the best colour to go with the blue, but it looked alright. Plus the front part under the window is also orange with "nationalexpress Coventry21", unlike the NXWM branded Enviro's which don't have this. Do we know if any other Coventry routes are to be branded in the future?
Quote from: CraigStar on August 29, 2012, 02:54:50 PM
I saw 4833 earlier with the branding. Not sure orange was the best colour to go with the blue, but it looked alright. Plus the front part under the window is also orange with "nationalexpress Coventry21", unlike the NXWM branded Enviro's which don't have this. Do we know if any other Coventry routes are to be branded in the future?
Spotted one today, not impressed.
Here it is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/7887435184/
To be honest, I do like it better than the 33/51/935/X51 style branding.
From the front it looks a bit like the old Stagecoach livery now, not sure about the grill strip atall...
I quite like that - at least there's sufficient blue remaining on the fornt to make it look like an NXC bus.
Nope. Do not like.
They've covered up the windows instead of the white and covered over the blue when the black surround is a perfect place for branding! That little orange strip just looks weird.
I didn't even notice the frequency on the windows at first, so they're hardly showing off the fact how often they are.
It would've been good if it said "Coventry City Centre" in the middle as it's the main destination. Just having "city centre" looks odd.
And they've not put on the mini connection bars, so there's even more white. What will they be doing with this space, as there's no orange circle at the back?
Quote from: jrwxyz on August 29, 2012, 09:32:13 PM
Nope. Do not like.
They've covered up the windows instead of the white and covered over the blue when the black surround is a perfect place for branding! That little orange strip just looks weird.
I didn't even notice the frequency on the windows at first, so they're hardly showing off the fact how often they are.
It would've been good if it said "Coventry City Centre" in the middle as it's the main destination. Just having "city centre" looks odd.
And they've not put on the mini connection bars, so there's even more white. What will they be doing with this space, as there's no orange circle at the back?
Why would they put 'Coventry' City Centre on? That is obviously someone not from Coventry saying that. I don't know of any branding from any company that uses something similar to that. If a route runs between towns you normally just use the town name, and if it is a local service you normally use town centre or City Centre
So why don't they put City Centre on the 33/51, etc? They don't go to any other city centres or outside of Birmingham for some of the routes.
And branding isn't just for locals. Didn't they just have people from around the world there for the Olympic football? City centre might've been Birmingham for all they knew... if NXC had even had their best buses in the city.
The branding looks quite smart as suits the enviro 400's well in my opinion, Tony is it likely any other services will follow in Coventry may be 13 branding for the gemini's?
Because both the 33 and 51 finish their journies in Walsall (yes Pheasey is in Walsall) so you put Birmingham, not not Birmingham City Centre you want.
Think about what people say. If you are in Wood End people won't say I am going to Coventry City Centre it will be either 'Town' or the City Centre. Hence the use of City Centre on the 21
People in Pheasey whould normally say they are going to Birmingham or Walsall.
People in Walsall certainly wouldn't say they were going to City Centre if heading of shopping in Birmingham
About 50 yards into Walsall from the Queslett Road... Hardly Walsall town centre, is it?
And all the buses in Birmingham say that on the front of them when they're in service, even the ones which never touch another local authority. So why don't they just put City Centre? There isn't another city for miles! And then Town Centre for Walsall, West Brom, Dudley or Solihull depending on which garage they're with, just to make things more confusing. In Coventry some routes go miles away as well, so it could even be Lichfield City Centre... if Facebook Reiss ever gets his way.
I suppose NXC know nothing about branding and graphic design, so I'll just leave them to it... Maybe one day we'll get National Express Birmingham around here and be able to put City Centre.
You would have trouble with the 126 as it would be city centre on both destination blinds for both Wolverhampton and Birmingham.
Quote from: John-s-91 on August 29, 2012, 08:53:25 PM
Here it is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/7887435184/
To be honest, I do like it better than the 33/51/935/X51 style branding.
Agreed. I prefer it to the 33, 51 etc branding primarily because it avoids most of the vinyl around the destination display, although it would look better without the random orange strip over the destination box. Looks a touch more modern than other recent branding efforts.
The white font on the big sticker looks much better than black like the 33.
Oh and onto Tony's point, yes Pheasey is classed as Walsall, well the taxes go Walsall council but the postcode is B43!
I say town meaning Birmingham but a lot of people mean Walsall!
This is just getting rediculous now, every route branding is different, surely NXWM have had enough identity problems and this is only going to add to it, they all look badly finished, ill thought out and plain pointless, can't wait for the bumps and scrapes and broken windows to start which as we all well know will be replaced with plain unbranded panels and panes which will start to kill off the branding! The only one in my opinion which works is the 126 branding, which has lasted now a good 8 years, probably 6 years longer than all the recent attempts! This is because it is clear, simple, and actually serves a useful purpose in explaining where the long route actually does go.
What`s happened to the connector bars?
4841 and 3 others, all branded for the 21 were all parked at the side of Coventry garage today, are some not ready for service yet? As none of the ones that had returned from London were in service today.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7907995750
Looks great and Im sure that no one will be confused by the city centre/birmingham/coventry thing. Bus users arent that inept
Another thing I noticed yesterday that 4832 had been given an old 21 display, as the number is on the left and it says via Pool Meadow.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7907963032
Not keen on the colour :o, but the design is more effective, and more informative, rather than just "Every XX minutes..."
Quote from: John-s-91 on September 02, 2012, 10:38:47 AM
Another thing I noticed yesterday that 4832 had been given an old 21 display, as the number is on the left and it says via Pool Meadow.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7907963032
Havent been to Coventry for a couple of months but does anyone know if 6021 still has its number on the left side too, this bus has never had the number on the right like the other bendi buses at Coventry but this could of changed recently.
Quote from: Ash on September 02, 2012, 09:46:47 PM
Havent been to Coventry for a couple of months but does anyone know if 6021 still has its number on the left side too, this bus has never had the number on the right like the other bendi buses at Coventry but this could of changed recently.
I can't remember seeing one with the number on the left, as I was only looking for 6012/17/18. That doesn't mean 6021 has not had it changed (might not have been out on Saturday). Will be going back in October so will look if no-one else does before.
Quote from: John-s-91 on August 29, 2012, 08:53:25 PM
Here it is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/7887435184/
To be honest, I do like it better than the 33/51/935/X51 style branding.
The 997 should recive a branding like that I think ? same with the Sutton Lines
Quote from: thetruth on September 13, 2012, 04:32:46 PM
Anyone seen if 4835, 4839 and 4840 are branded yet?
Yes all those three done, just 4830 left unbranded, 4835 & 4839 were the two I happened to photograph yesterday, now on main site
Are there any plans to brand any other route on the Coventry network ?
4830 didn't receive 21 route branding! There are 4831-4842 have 21 route branding.
4842-Again faulty destination equipment!
Quote from: NXCOV21 on September 27, 2012, 02:40:04 PM
Are there any plans to brand any other route on the Coventry network ?
I have read from a good source on Flickr that there are 3 routes in total to be branded in Coventry (one been the 21).
If im guessing i would think the 13 and the Foleshill Road routes would be the other two services. With the Foleshill Road omnilink getting the new branding style. Another candidate may be the 4 service and branding some of the citaro bendibuses.
Any news on anymore coventry services to be branded in the near future