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Title: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: IMarkeh on November 18, 2021, 09:15:57 PM
I have started a list of employee and work buses. I have got a good amount of routes so far and hopefully people here can assist in filling the list.

It is linked on Google Sheets purely because this thread would be never ending if I posted the tables here. I have split the routes into 4 categories.
Home - Workplace - Routes here specifically contracted work buses which generally have more stops and at least 1 stop is not a Park and Ride, Bus Station or Train Station.
Interchange - Workplace - Routes here are specifically contracted work buses which only call at a Park & Ride site, Bus Station or Train Station
Local Bus Services - Routes here are registered as a local bus route. Unless otherwise stated, all of the routes in this category can be used by the public to make their a journey.
Internal Work Shuttle - This is for buses which don't pick up anywhere except the companies sites or just does a loop of the site if it is a large site. This can include park and rides just outside if it is part of a normal service.

Where the information is known, I have put the operator. If applicable and again, if known, the contractor is put (Zeelo and National Express Transport Services (NETS) for example contract out the buses to an operator and don't run their own buses. The contractor, at least with NETS and Zeelo, is the person to contact with regards to the service and and booking seats. The operator is purely put in for enthusiasts.

I am thinking about maybe including some regular work buses which run all day but where would the line be drawn in terms of whether it is a works bus or a local service (ie Nottingham Boots).

If anyone can fill any gaps, it would be greatly appreciated and hopefully this helps a few people who want to spot buses in obscure places and job seekers to spot where an unadvertised bus may run. That said, I take not responsibility for any wrong information and do not rely upon this list for a job or bus spotting, please do some of your own research as well.


RULES:
There must be some evidence online that the service runs recently (so within the past few months) and believed to still run (Buses currently Covid suspended are not included. These can be included as/when these routes restart).
Any services must have a return run. No 'only to work' links, must be able to get people home.
For local bus services, if the bus runs quite regularly, the primary use for the bus has to be for the workplaces. The route/route group should not be a normal bus providing local travel for local people but happens to pass through an industrial estate. That said, diversions at certain times to specifically to serve an industrial estate (for example) do count. Perhaps use some common sense on this.
Bus operator staff routes (home to the depot) are only included if they are open to the public. I say this because each operator will have too many potential shuttles and it will be difficult to draw the line between a home - work bus and a changeover shuttle.

For some example, D1/D2/D3 Deeside Shuttles count because they are specific shuttles which exist to serve the industrial estate. Stagecoach X10 to Moulton Park is a good example of a diversion run. It goes out of it's way, off the core route, just to serve the area at peak times.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14Dd7R3skLrvS4EiaAGuwBsQeY04j9WlzT2bgmCeaaZ4/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: ellspurs on November 19, 2021, 02:27:38 AM
The Coventry 7 no longer extends around to Amazon as far as I can tell. I think it changed back in September. Their current procedure is to get off at Browns Lane and walk down a cul-de-sac to get to a walk-in entrance I believe.
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: Wumpty on November 19, 2021, 08:08:06 AM
@IMarkeh this is impressive!
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: Kevin on November 19, 2021, 08:33:17 AM
Very interesting.

I wonder whether bus companies own staff buses come into this? I know NXWM have some arrangements based on a more door-to-door service for times when service buses aren't running, but down here in Oxfordshire there is the 11X between a few city centre stops in Oxford and the Cowley BMW factory (the stop name, but a convenient stop for Oxford Bus Company depot) as a frequent public registered service.
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: Wumpty on November 19, 2021, 08:40:02 AM
Quote from: Kevin on November 19, 2021, 08:33:17 AM
Very interesting.

I wonder whether bus companies own staff buses come into this? I know NXWM have some arrangements based on a more door-to-door service for times when service buses aren't running, but down here in Oxfordshire there is the 11X between a few city centre stops in Oxford and the Cowley BMW factory (the stop name, but a convenient stop for Oxford Bus Company depot) as a frequent public registered service.

NXWM runs 807/808/809 Wolverhampton Circulars from Wolverhampton garage as set-route staff services, so probably worth including.

I love the concept of this register @IMarkeh
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: Solo1 on November 19, 2021, 09:19:58 AM
D&G Bus have one to alton towers  & stagecoach leamington spa depot run a bus for national grid
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: ellspurs on November 19, 2021, 03:06:07 PM
Quote from: Kevin on November 19, 2021, 08:33:17 AM
Very interesting.

I wonder whether bus companies own staff buses come into this? I know NXWM have some arrangements based on a more door-to-door service for times when service buses aren't running, but down here in Oxfordshire there is the 11X between a few city centre stops in Oxford and the Cowley BMW factory (the stop name, but a convenient stop for Oxford Bus Company depot) as a frequent public registered service.

Oh I was wondering why they were running an "express service" with a tiny bus.
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: IMarkeh on November 19, 2021, 08:58:38 PM
Quote from: ellspurs on November 19, 2021, 02:27:38 AM
The Coventry 7 no longer extends around to Amazon as far as I can tell. I think it changed back in September. Their current procedure is to get off at Browns Lane and walk down a cul-de-sac to get to a walk-in entrance I believe.
Thank you for that. I didn't know that it had changes. It's now been removed.

Quote from: Kevin on November 19, 2021, 08:33:17 AM
Very interesting.

I wonder whether bus companies own staff buses come into this? I know NXWM have some arrangements based on a more door-to-door service for times when service buses aren't running, but down here in Oxfordshire there is the 11X between a few city centre stops in Oxford and the Cowley BMW factory (the stop name, but a convenient stop for Oxford Bus Company depot) as a frequent public registered service.
I have put the 11X into the spreadsheet purely on the basis that the public can use the route. For bus operators, most of them are closed services and I think the list would be so long if we included every possible bus operator shuttle and we will have too many potential shuttles. It will be difficult to draw the line between a home - work bus and a changeover shuttle.

Quote from: Wumpty on November 19, 2021, 08:40:02 AM
NXWM runs 807/808/809 Wolverhampton Circulars from Wolverhampton garage as set-route staff services, so probably worth including.

I love the concept of this register @IMarkeh
Is there any information online anywhere for these routes? Bustimes tracking or online timetables?

Quote from: Solo1 on November 19, 2021, 09:19:58 AM
D&G Bus have one to alton towers  & stagecoach leamington spa depot run a bus for national grid
Already in mate.
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: ellspurs on November 20, 2021, 08:39:26 AM
Quote from: IMarkeh on November 19, 2021, 08:58:38 PM
Is there any information online anywhere for these routes? Bustimes tracking or online timetables?

https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/807-wolverhampton-bus-garage-perton-gate-circular

https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/808-wolverhampton-bus-garage-sedgley-circular

https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/809-wolverhampton-bus-garage-ashmore-circular
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: IMarkeh on November 20, 2021, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: ellspurs on November 20, 2021, 08:39:26 AM
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/807-wolverhampton-bus-garage-perton-gate-circular

https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/808-wolverhampton-bus-garage-sedgley-circular

https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/809-wolverhampton-bus-garage-ashmore-circular
No return working on them though for anyone to get home (unless people are working 22hrs or 5 minutes)
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: ellspurs on November 20, 2021, 01:29:04 PM
Quote from: IMarkeh on November 20, 2021, 01:03:36 PM
No return working on them though for anyone to get home (unless people are working 22hrs or 5 minutes)

The services are to pick up the Wolverhampton garage staff/bus drivers in the early morning. There'll be normal daytime services to allow them to get home.
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: IMarkeh on January 22, 2022, 02:56:50 AM
As NatEx TravelSol have lost the Amazon contracts with First TravelSol taking over, is anyone able to fill any of the operator gaps which are left? Or does anyone know of any other services which could be added?

I have kept the list updated as much as possible.
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: Solo1 on January 22, 2022, 07:02:03 AM
Fastline based in Walsall runs a works service
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: IMarkeh on January 22, 2022, 11:23:33 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on January 22, 2022, 07:02:03 AM
Fastline based in Walsall runs a works service
Didn't they used to run the Amazon Rugeley stuff?
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: Hector on January 22, 2022, 11:02:54 PM
An internal shuttle operates between County Hospital, Stafford and Royal Stoke University Hospital. The service is operated by ABC Supreme Coaches, Stoke
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: B61 ANDREW on January 23, 2022, 03:53:32 PM
 Does any one have any info on Johnsons M95 service ,going by the timings it's definately a "shuttle" .  :D
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: JPC on January 23, 2022, 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on January 23, 2022, 03:53:32 PM
Does any one have any info on Johnsons M95 service ,going by the timings it's definately a "shuttle" .  :D
Car park shuttle for the Covid Megalab staff in Leamington Spa I believe.
NX Cov were operating this (usually with a B7RLE) up until some point during Xmas/New Year.
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: B61 ANDREW on January 24, 2022, 12:39:57 PM
Quote from: JPC on January 23, 2022, 06:31:16 PM
Car park shuttle for the Covid Megalab staff in Leamington Spa I believe.

  Thank you JPC.  I gather that Johnsons latest aquisition can usually be found on this working.
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: karl724223 on January 24, 2022, 03:59:39 PM
Does pensnett Saturday only staff bus shuttle count running from the garage to Russell's hall hospital for its drivers
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: IMarkeh on January 25, 2022, 01:45:12 AM
Quote from: Hector on January 22, 2022, 11:02:54 PM
An internal shuttle operates between County Hospital, Stafford and Royal Stoke University Hospital. The service is operated by ABC Supreme Coaches, Stoke
Added, thank you

Quote from: B61 ANDREW on January 23, 2022, 03:53:32 PM
Does any one have any info on Johnsons M95 service ,going by the timings it's definately a "shuttle" .  :D
Are there any timings online or just any information at all? All that I can find online is that there is a shuttle in place. Nothing more than that.

Quote from: karl724223 on January 24, 2022, 03:59:39 PM
Does pensnett Saturday only staff bus shuttle count running from the garage to Russell's hall hospital for its drivers
Unlikely. Is it staff only? Does it have workings both ways or is it just 2 trips in the early morning like the Wolverhampton ones?
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: Wumpty on January 25, 2022, 07:47:13 AM
Quote from: karl724223 on January 24, 2022, 03:59:39 PM
Does pensnett Saturday only staff bus shuttle count running from the garage to Russell's hall hospital for its drivers
I'd class that as a shuttle, yes!
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: B61 ANDREW on January 25, 2022, 09:06:18 AM
Quote from: IMarkeh on January 25, 2022, 01:45:12 AM
Are there any timings online or just any information at all? All that I can find online is that there is a shuttle in place. Nothing more than that.
Check Johnsons on Bustimes.  The service is not listed on the timetable page but you can scroll down the list of  vehicles to check which bus is on the M95.  Its usually right at the bottom of the list  !!  !! 
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: IMarkeh on January 25, 2022, 11:44:48 AM
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on January 25, 2022, 09:06:18 AM
Check Johnsons on Bustimes.  The service is not listed on the timetable page but you can scroll down the list of  vehicles to check which bus is on the M95.  Its usually right at the bottom of the list  !!  !!
Added in, thank you.
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: karl724223 on January 25, 2022, 05:53:57 PM
QuoteUnlikely. Is it staff only? Does it have workings both ways or is it just 2 trips in the early morning like the Wolverhampton ones?

pn staff bus on Saturday runs every 20 min from 11 to 1630 doing garage to hospital and back for drivers only to get connecting buses to dudlay Stourbridge and merry hill also drivers can catch this bus back from the hospital to garage
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: IMarkeh on January 26, 2022, 06:00:32 AM
Quote from: karl724223 on January 25, 2022, 05:53:57 PM
pn staff bus on Saturday runs every 20 min from 11 to 1630 doing garage to hospital and back for drivers only to get connecting buses to dudlay Stourbridge and merry hill also drivers can catch this bus back from the hospital to garage
Is there any information online about it?
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: Dom on January 26, 2022, 10:16:27 AM
Quote from: IMarkeh on January 26, 2022, 06:00:32 AM
Is there any information online about it?

Why would there be? It's ran for employees of the company that runs it...
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: IMarkeh on January 27, 2022, 07:42:09 AM
Quote from: Dom on January 26, 2022, 10:16:27 AM
Why would there be? It's ran for employees of the company that runs it...
Some of them still have information online and it is one of the requirements that I have put on whether the service can go onto the list. Even if it just tracks on bustimes, that's fine.
Title: Re: Employee/Work Shuttles
Post by: Wumpty on January 27, 2022, 07:44:40 AM
Quote from: IMarkeh on January 27, 2022, 07:42:09 AM
Some of them still have information online and it is one of the requirements that I have put on whether the service can go onto the list. Even if it just tracks on bustimes, that's fine.

Fair comment :)