The refurb programme is now restarting as the Euro 6 conversation programme winds down. First bus in is WA 862
2nd waiting to go in is 733
3rd is 4935
1808 & 1809 both now in for refurb
734 is now in for repaint eiminating red/white minibuses from Pensnett
With 1808 and 1809 is this a repaint or refurb what consists in a refurb
Quote from: Jack D on January 16, 2021, 12:41:03 PM
With 1808 and 1809 is this a repaint or refurb what consists in a refurb
Quote from: Tony on January 06, 2021, 07:22:33 PM
1808 & 1809 both now in for refurb
Same as every other Scania
So what's happening to them I didn't realise they were being refurbed
Quote from: Jack D on January 16, 2021, 01:30:32 PM
So what's happening to them I didn't realise they were being refurbed
Exactly the same as every other bus that goes Crimson
Vehicles currently in for refurbishment
AG - 1789
BC - 4902
CV - nil
PB - 1808, 1809
PN - 733, 734, 2095
WA - 862
WB - nil
WN - 4935
YW - nil
Training - 1783
Heritage - 119L, 3035, 3997
Not sure if anyone asked but why wasnt any of coventrys
dennis tridents repainted into full livery like a lot of the ones at bc
Pn Wa & the same with the gemmi
Quote from: Solo1 on February 20, 2021, 08:38:29 AM
Not sure if anyone asked but why wasnt any of coventrys
dennis tridents repainted into full livery like a lot of the ones at bc
Pn Wa & the same with the gemmi
Because they didn't need trapping to run in Coventry. Only trapped tridents and Geminis were refurbished
Quote from: Tony on February 20, 2021, 08:46:07 AM
Because they didn't need trapping to run in Coventry. Only trapped tridents and Geminis were refurbished
ok thanks
There is a temporary fix at the paintshop, so expect a rush of repaints appearing from Tuesday onwards. The first three out will be 4902, 733 & 862
Repaints now getting back in to full swing, 4902 back to BC today, 733 will be the next
https://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4902.html
733 back at PN
2099 now in paint
852 next one due out, followed by 1808, then 2095
Quote from: Tony on May 06, 2021, 07:56:54 PM
733 back at PN
2099 now in paint
852 next one due out, followed by 1808, then 2095
I think you mean 862
@Tony
2095 on the way back to PN repainted
1808 back at PB repainted
1823 & 2101 have replaced them in paint
is 1789 any nearer to completion?
Quote from: cris 99 on May 12, 2021, 08:47:33 PM
is 1789 any nearer to completion?
Everything is in the queue for the booth
Quote from: Tony on May 12, 2021, 07:54:20 PM
1823 & 2103 have replaced them in paint
Is this meant to be 2101 as on the main site it's got the crimson colour by the dept name and fleet number and 2103 hasn't left the depot according to bustimes.org
Quote from: SN65 OMC on May 12, 2021, 09:37:32 PM
Is this meant to be 2101 as on the main site it's got the crimson colour by the dept name and fleet number and 2103 hasn't left the depot according to bustimes.org
Yes
758 going in for paint? As passed it on Bloxwich Rd around 12:30am
Quote from: 4679 on May 13, 2021, 12:49:43 AM
758 going in for paint? As passed it on Bloxwich Rd around 12:30am
Not yet. It's on the Oldbury staff bus today
Tony, I don't know if it's my eyes playing tricks on me but has 734 got the right Reg Plate? It looks like it's on a 16 plate and not 61 in it's fresh coat of paint.
Quote from: 966 on May 13, 2021, 10:35:24 PM
Tony, I don't know if it's my eyes playing tricks on me but has 734 got the right Reg Plate? It looks like it's on a 16 plate and not 61 in it's fresh coat of paint.
It's not your eyes, it definitely has a 16 plate in the latest photo.
Quote from: 966 on May 13, 2021, 10:35:24 PM
Tony, I don't know if it's my eyes playing tricks on me but has 734 got the right Reg Plate? It looks like it's on a 16 plate and not 61 in it's fresh coat of paint.
Now got the right plates on and collected, swapped for 2103
2142 on loan at PN
2105 now in paint
Vehicles currently in for refurbishment
AG - nil
BC - nil
CV - nil
PB - 1823, 1824
PN - 2099, 2101, 2103, 2105
WA - 860
WB - 754
WN - nil
YW - nil
Training - nil
Heritage - 119L, 3035, 3997
Vehicles painted since last update
733, 734, 862, 1782, 1789, 1808, 1809, 2095, 4902, 4935
Are 'skirts' still being touched up?
Noticed one of Walsall's Eclipse 2's looked a bit worse for wear.
2106 now at Walsall for repaint, so that eliminates red/white or blue/white B7RLEs from the fleet
2099 and 2101 returned.
2103 also now returned, replaced by 2111 from Volvo.
837 now in for repaint.
2105 also returned, replaced by 834.
Real progress with the PN single deckers remaining in the old livery, and presuming the WA, WB, PB and AGs will continue as well.
But is there any plan to start up the E400 programme again - noting there are around 65 to do, plus presumably another 54 ex CVs if/when they're replaced by electrics?
Quote from: don on June 28, 2021, 11:56:11 PM
Real progress with the PN single deckers remaining in the old livery, and presuming the WA, WB, PB and AGs will continue as well.
But is there any plan to start up the E400 programme again - noting there are around 65 to do, plus presumably another 54 ex CVs if/when they're replaced by electrics?
When the lift in the spray booth broke we have had a temporary fix which allows single decks to be painted, but cannot paint doubles until the booth has a complete refit
Vehicles currently in for refurbishment
AG - nil
BC - nil
CV - nil
PB - 1823, 1824
PN - 834, 2106, 2111
WA - 860
WB - 754
WN - 837
YW - nil
Training - nil
Heritage - 119L, 3035, 3997
Vehicles painted since last update
2099, 2101, 2103, 2105
Vehicles currently in for refurbishment
AG - nil
BC - nil
CV - nil
PB - 1823
PN - 834, 2106, 2111
WA - 855
WB - 754
WN - 837
YW - nil
Training - nil
Heritage - 119L, 3035, 3997
Vehicles painted since last update
860, 1824
Typo error there, 1824?
2106; 2111 now returned
Replaced with 835; 836
I swear Acocks green still have remaining red and white scanias and 4658 which is red and white?
Quote from: bbs on July 20, 2021, 10:55:22 AM
I swear Acocks green still have remaining red and white scanias and 4658 which is red and white?
No idea what you mean but Perry Barr have a lot of Red and White Scanias and Walsall may still have a couple.
Quote from: bbs on July 20, 2021, 10:55:22 AM
I swear Acocks green still have remaining red and white scanias and 4658 which is red and white?
There's all the ALX400's too... all the garages still have vehicles in red and white...
Quote from: bbs on July 20, 2021, 10:55:22 AM
I swear Acocks green still have remaining red and white scanias and 4658 which is red and white?
And?
Quote from: bbs on July 20, 2021, 10:55:22 AM
I swear Acocks green still have remaining red and white scanias and 4658 which is red and white?
Walsall have 1834 and 1835 in red and white i presume they will be painted shortly.
Quote from: bbs on July 20, 2021, 10:55:22 AM
I swear Acocks green still have remaining red and white scanias and 4658 which is red and white?
No deckers under 4718 are being repainted into crimson
Quote from: filbus1 on July 20, 2021, 01:00:23 PM
No idea what you mean but Perry Barr have a lot of Red and White Scanias and Walsall may still have a couple.
Perry barrs ones are slowing going crimson like 1823
Quote from: bbs on July 20, 2021, 09:39:34 PM
Perry barrs ones are slowing going crimson like 1823
What?
Anyway, are anymore being sent from AG and PB or are E200's taking priority?
Quote from: Jack on July 20, 2021, 09:41:09 PM
What?
Anyway, are anymore being sent from AG and PB or are E200's taking priority?
Double decks can't still be done can they?
4658 was repainted iirc in the old livery because of the 4718 cut off point (double decks). I think it was discussed here at the time.
It's obvious that the WN, PN, WA and WB E200s are being done as priority currently - presumably PB and AG Scanias will go through when they can be spared (maybe more will be freed with the school holiday timetables). You could imagine the two WA Scanias being dealt with when the last couple of their E200s are finished.
Maybe 2201-31 will follow those.
I'm sure Tony has a plan for all this which we know will not be disclosed apart from as vehicles go through the shop - but you can see how it's being dealt with just from observation - as I queried before, completion of the double deck fleet repaint must also be high priority when they can be done and no doubt the cascade of blue vehicles from CV, as their fleet is renewed with zero emission will figure somewhere in due course also.
From the photos posted the earlier Platinums and 6101-48 (now 6 yrs plus old) look ok, if not good, externally - certainly nothing like the awful faded pink peril 4801 etc when at PN. The single deck equivalent 2201 onwards look a bit more faded though (2232-50 have already been repainted).
The deckers can't be done yet as the lift in the Paint shop not working there was a post on here about it
Quote from: Solo1 on July 20, 2021, 11:47:43 PM
The deckers can't be done yet as the lift in the Paint shop not working there was a post on here about it
Yes, Tony said they had a fix enabling single deckers only to be fully repainted at the moment, which is why I said in respect of double deckers "when they can be".
835, 836 now returned.
Replaced by 866.
Quote from: BN on August 13, 2021, 04:41:55 PM
835, 836 now returned.
Replaced by 866.
1833 which has been off the road for 7 months with mechanical problems has also gone straight to Walsall for paint after repair
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2021, 06:13:32 PM
1833 which has been off the road for 7 months with mechanical problems has also gone straight to Walsall for paint after repair
867 will be there Monday too leaving only 2 left at PN
1797 back at AG this morning and already out inh service on the 17
866 just arrived back.
867 back too, replaced by 869.
Only 1 left now!
865 back
1833 back from paint
861 crimson
870 now back, completing the PN fleet.
Has a vehicle already in crimson received a crimson repaint yet? Or is it just red and white, hybrids and Dundee liveried vehicles that have been crimsoned?
Quote from: Stevo on October 29, 2021, 09:39:07 AM
Has a vehicle already in crimson received a crimson repaint yet? Or is it just red and white, hybrids and Dundee liveried vehicles that have been crimsoned?
some of the pensnet are getting a touch up was a post on here
859 complete all E200 at WA crimson
Quote from: Stevo on October 29, 2021, 09:39:07 AM
Has a vehicle already in crimson received a crimson repaint yet? Or is it just red and white, hybrids and Dundee liveried vehicles that have been crimsoned?
It says a lot for the quality of the crimson repaints so far, that barring any minor touch ups due to accident repairs or panel replacements that most of the crimson painted vehicles are nowhere near requiring any kind of full repaint yet.
Quote from: Stu on October 29, 2021, 06:24:10 PM
It says a lot for the quality of the crimson repaints so far, that barring any minor touch ups due to accident repairs or panel replacements that most of the crimson painted vehicles are nowhere near requiring any kind of full repaint yet.
Out of the UK at the moment so not as accurate, but when I last saw some of the E200MMCs in Solihull 6 weeks ago, some were looking battle scared.
Quote from: Stu on October 29, 2021, 06:24:10 PM
It says a lot for the quality of the crimson repaints so far, that barring any minor touch ups due to accident repairs or panel replacements that most of the crimson painted vehicles are nowhere near requiring any kind of full repaint yet.
The same can be said for the Platinums.
Quote from: MW on October 29, 2021, 06:43:31 PM
Out of the UK at the moment so not as accurate, but when I last saw some of the E200MMCs in Solihull 6 weeks ago, some were looking battle scared.
definitely acocks greens bashed up mmcs
Aren't photo memories nice on your phone, "on this day 5yrs ago" WN had 2019 back, Done in the new crimson.
I have a couple of questions, some of which have been asked elsewhere and may have been answered already, but can't find them now, but thought this topic would be a good one to 'revive', save others keep asking the same questions elsewhere!
First one, is the paint shop at Walsall requipped to repaint double-deck vehicles again?
Secondly, with an influx of Coventry vehicles set to transfer into the West Mids fleet, it stands to reason that many will be used in service in the Coventry livery.
If any are to be repainted, will they go straight into the 'new' grey Platinum design, or will any in the 'old' Coventry blue/white style just get a 'quick touch-up' with the blue being painted over with red?
Personally I wouldn't expect all the vehicles to go through the whole refurb process, especially some of the older ones such as the Geminis or Tridents, as they probably only have a couple more years life left in them, so wouldn't be worth it.
Just curious as to what will happen with these, and I wouldn't personally be bothered if they stayed in sky-blue with just some vinyls applied.
Any full repaints done will be done in two tone grey, 838 is the first.
The process to start painting double decks again is now underway, but it will take a few weeks to fit the new kit into the booth
I would think the oldest ones will have a basic respray while others may get the full treatment.
QuoteI would think the oldest ones will have a basic respray while others may get the full treatment.
Doubt respray, just vinyl would do the job
As there are only 8 Tridents, 3 AlX 400 B7TLs and 10 (in Coventry) Geminis left, surely they're mostly likely to be withdrawn. I would doubt the handful transferred to West Midlands would be repainted.
However the 54 E400s are another matter!!
Quote from: Tony on October 25, 2022, 07:35:09 PMAny full repaints done will be done in two tone grey, 838 is the first.
The process to start painting double decks again is now underway, but it will take a few weeks to fit the new kit into the booth
Has it been about 2 years since the last double decker was painted?
How come the new kit for the spray booth has taken so long to source?
I seem to remember
@Tony saying the new spray booth would be capable of taking a full size coach as well as double deckers - the part which wasn't functioning was stated to be the vehicle lift so presumably quite a big investment to replace.
I've been quite surprised alternative arrangements haven't been made via external contracts - I think a couple of 49xx were dealt with like this and 6106. That said, the old liveried 49xx don't look bad still.
I guess the need to repaint at least 54 double deckers from Coventry has brought forward the need to either resolve the problem or find an alternative - I was hopeful we might see some bottom half grey temporary fixes or something similar but it looks like full repaint/refurb service will be resumed fairly soon - good to see the photo of the 47xx with red patch fleet names.
The 49xx now being transferred to WN haven't been painted/trimmed from new (so 8 yrs or so).
Had a ride on 2229 this afternoon on the 4A from Shirley to Acocks Green.
Didn't realise that as well as a repaint, all the seats have been retrimmed with a new design, stripes instead of dots.
It's been a while since I travelled on any of these E200s, have any of the interior plastic mouldings been replaced or repainted as well? (Like those around the front wheels and the rear of the seats behind the driver) Seem to be a darker shade of grey to me compared to what I remember.
Honestly, if you didn't know otherwise, you'd swear this was a brand new bus!
QuoteHad a ride on 2229 this afternoon on the 4A from Shirley to Acocks Green.
Didn't realise that as well as a repaint, all the seats have been retrimmed with a new design, stripes instead of dots.
It's been a while since I travelled on any of these E200s, have any of the interior plastic mouldings been replaced or repainted as well? (Like those around the front wheels and the rear of the seats behind the driver) Seem to be a darker shade of grey to me compared to what I remember.
Honestly, if you didn't know otherwise, you'd swear this was a brand new bus!
No interior panels changed, on some the floor has needed replacement in places, but the refurb is Normally remove any dented bodywork, retrim seats, replace any damaged seat backs, and a repaint
QuoteHonestly, if you didn't know otherwise, you'd swear this was a brand new bus!
Shame there's no new bus smell!
What's happening with 1837? Is it a new heritage Bus?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1837.html
Quote from: BNH2004 on November 07, 2022, 07:17:19 PMWhat's happening with 1837? Is it a new heritage Bus?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1837.html
I was wondering why it had all its vinyl logos removed in the previous photo...
Reminds me very much of when two B10Ls were painted purple with the intention of using them on the S9 service to Blythe Valley, only then for NX Bus to lose the contract...
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1317-1514/1415.html
Previously carried on B6LEs 594 and 595:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0501-0830/594.html
It's being prepared for a non PSV role, all will be revealed next week
Quote from: don on October 26, 2022, 12:08:14 AMAs there are only 8 Tridents, 3 AlX 400 B7TLs and 10 (in Coventry) Geminis left, surely they're mostly likely to be withdrawn. I would doubt the handful transferred to West Midlands would be repainted.
However the 54 E400s are another matter!!
I'd have to agree, especially the newest Enviros.
Quote from: Tony on November 07, 2022, 08:36:42 PMIt's being prepared for a non PSV role, all will be revealed next week
while visiting the health bus at Westbrom recently the staff they were saying they're getting a replacement for the Mercedes Evobus 0405N which still looks in great condition, may be the chassis is on its last legs as these were known for rotting.
The replacement for the health bus is 2246