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Title: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: J GL on August 24, 2020, 08:41:21 PM
On behalf of the news of DeCourcey sadly going into administration, it made me wonder what are the longest running routes in the West Mids/Warwickshire area. I know the 585 is very old which is has its near enough original number as well as other routes like the 86.
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: Busboy105 on August 24, 2020, 08:52:07 PM
Quote from: J GL on August 24, 2020, 08:41:21 PM
On behalf of the news of DeCourcey sadly going into administration, it made me wonder what are the longest running routes in the West Mids/Warwickshire area. I know the 585 is very old which is has its near enough original number as well as other routes like the 86.
Considering the amount of routes that have been changed/withdrawn over the years, it's probably hard to find one that's been running for a long period of time.
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: Tony on August 24, 2020, 09:52:55 PM
Quote from: Busboy105 on August 24, 2020, 08:52:07 PM
Considering the amount of routes that have been changed/withdrawn over the years, it's probably hard to find one that's been running for a long period of time.

The 1 between Five Ways and Acocks Green is basically the same route and service number for close on 100 years
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: Sh4318 on August 25, 2020, 04:47:09 PM
How long has the 2 (Maypole - Birmingham) been running for?
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: Steve3229vp on August 25, 2020, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on August 25, 2020, 04:47:09 PM
How long has the 2 (Maypole - Birmingham) been running for?
It was originally a 24 City-Warstock introduced in 1930, re-numbered 2 in 1987, extended to Maypole in 1991 and re-routed via Stoney Lane in 2018 so it doesn't really qualify as a longest-running bus route bearing in mind it's changes in the last 33 years.

Longest running bus routes which have changed very little are:
60 City-Cranes Park introduced in 1951
74 Birmingham-West Bromwich-Dudley introduced in 1939
82 Birmingham-Bearwood introduced in 1939
87 Birmingham-Oldbury-Dudley introduced in 1939
The 74 and the 87 are two of only a few routes that had the same numbers when they were trams, so the 74 and 87 are very old.
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: Ian Hardy on August 25, 2020, 08:42:18 PM
Tony,

According to Malcolm Keeley's book "Birmingham Buses Route by Route 1925 – 1975" the service that is now route 1 gained that number from March 1916, as it is was route 9 from October 1914 when BCT took over the route from BMMO.

Some other old routes long standing routes that are similar today:

8 Inner Circle 08/02/1928
9 03/03/1919 between Birmingham & Quinton
11 Outer Circle 07/04/1926
14 13/12/1933
18 20/03/1929
27 02/10/1935

Ian Hardy
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: BBS on September 23, 2020, 12:00:05 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 24, 2020, 09:52:55 PM
The 1 between Five Ways and Acocks Green is basically the same route and service number for close on 100 years
Really? That's Unbelievable.Not that many people tend to use it now-er days. :)
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: Tony on September 23, 2020, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: bbs on September 23, 2020, 12:00:05 PM
Really? That's Unbelievable.Not that many people tend to use it now-er days. :)

Really? If that was true it would have had single decks allocated
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: Steve3229vp on September 23, 2020, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: bbs on September 23, 2020, 12:00:05 PM
Really? That's Unbelievable.Not that many people tend to use it now-er days. :)
You're a regular user on the 1 are you ?
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: MasterPlan on September 23, 2020, 02:28:07 PM
Quote from: bbs on September 23, 2020, 12:00:05 PM
Really? That's Unbelievable.Not that many people tend to use it now-er days. :)

I don't buy that to be honest. When I used to wait at Five Ways for the 29 I noticed that stop was very busy at peak times.
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: 2206 on September 23, 2020, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 23, 2020, 02:28:07 PM
I don't buy that to be honest. When I used to wait at Five Ways for the 29 I noticed that stop was very busy at peak times.
Probably depends on time of day/where they are seeing them i'd have thought.
They're probably seeing some of the less busier journeys on there or at quiet times of the day.
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: bususer28 on September 23, 2020, 05:03:58 PM
Quote from: bbs on September 23, 2020, 12:00:05 PM
Really? That's Unbelievable.Not that many people tend to use it now-er days. :)
You'll be very surprised! I find it incredibly useful because not everyone needs the city centre.
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: MW on September 23, 2020, 08:34:18 PM
The 1 is a busy route that warrants deckers at peak times. Off peak it can be quiet but during the peaks it can get very busy. The issue is that AM peak is busy towards Five Ways and very quiet towards Acocks Green. In PM peak it's the opposite.

Other routes like the 4 & 6 are busy both directions during peaks.
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: Sh4318 on September 23, 2020, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: bbs on September 23, 2020, 12:00:05 PM
Really? That's Unbelievable.Not that many people tend to use it now-er days. :)

The main stretch of the route is every 10 minutes on weekdays, I'm not buying that
Title: Re: What are the longest-running bus routes in the Warwickshire/West Midlands Area?
Post by: x68 on September 24, 2020, 08:06:48 PM
Tram service78 Bus service 65 Birmingham -Short Heath have basically kept to same route since service started. 65 bus was extended to Perry Common 1986 still uses original route not including City Centre changes.