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Title: Routes that interwork
Post by: Pat on March 27, 2020, 01:03:19 PM
Does anyone know any routes (all operators) that interwork?  I'll start off with some that I know of:

Arriva: Telford - 1&2, 5/A & 6, 8 & 297, 13 & 19, 113 & 114/5/6 Shrewsbury - 2 + 12 & 3A, 8 & 20, 23 & 26, 24 & 25, 64 & 164, 436 & 9, 544 & 546, 738 & 740
Banga: 52 & 53 (some 545 journeys interwork around lunchtime to allow for driver breaks on 52/53)
Diamond: 16 & 16W, 30 & 74A, 42 & 43, 68A & 68C,
NX - WN 15 & 16

Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: 2206 on March 27, 2020, 01:06:51 PM
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on March 27, 2020, 01:03:19 PM
NX - WN 15 & 16
X20/X21/X22, 58/31, 5/73 and some late night 55's interworked with the 17, not sure if they do with the temporary timetable at the minute though.
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: the trainbasher on March 27, 2020, 01:10:49 PM
Do the PN 18/19 still interwork?

The PN 10/28, 17/57 and 14A/24 interwork
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: Pat on March 27, 2020, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 27, 2020, 01:10:49 PM
Do the PN 18/19 still interwork?

The PN 10/28, 17/57 and 14A/24 interwork
Not sure about the 18/19.  I did have a feeling that there was something in Stourbridge that interworked.
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: Steveminor on March 27, 2020, 01:46:27 PM
Claribels 167 & 168 interwork
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: mesub on March 27, 2020, 06:11:12 PM
The 10S and 54(A?) interwork and I know some 23/4 boards interwork as well.
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: Solo1 on March 27, 2020, 08:52:38 PM
Does 82/87 interwork
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: 4679 on March 27, 2020, 11:05:23 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 27, 2020, 08:52:38 PM
Does 82/87 interwork

Yes

Others that interwork at WB 42/43, 12/A&13/A, 47&49 (evenings), 40&46 (Sunday), 45&46 (evenings)
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: Jack on March 28, 2020, 12:01:06 PM
The 29 and 70A interwork during the day, can't remember whether it's the Bloxwich or Blakenall shorts on the 29 that interwork with the 70A.
The 7 and 41 interwork on Saturdays.
The 11/11A did but I'm not sure if they still do since they took over the 81
The 4/4H/4M interwork on weekdays and on Saturdays just the 4 and 4H interwork.
The 3/3A interwork.
The 8/X8 interwork.

I'm fairly sure the 8/8A/9 interwork too, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 28, 2020, 12:55:03 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 28, 2020, 12:01:06 PM
The 29 and 70A interwork during the day, can't remember whether it's the Bloxwich or Blakenall shorts on the 29 that interwork with the 70A.
The 7 and 41 interwork on Saturdays.
The 11/11A did but I'm not sure if they still do since they took over the 81
The 4/4H/4M interwork on weekdays and on Saturdays just the 4 and 4H interwork.
The 3/3A interwork.
The 8/X8 interwork.

I'm fairly sure the 8/8A/9 interwork too, but I could be wrong.

I didn't think the 4H inter worked on weekdays either?
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: Lukeee on March 28, 2020, 10:54:29 PM
On normal timetables the 65 and 67 Saturday daytime services interwork
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: Jack on March 29, 2020, 01:26:56 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 28, 2020, 12:55:03 PM
I didn't think the 4H inter worked on weekdays either?
From my observation they did, but I could be wrong, but I'm sure the boards on it mix around so I could of got confused.
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: BH2004 on March 29, 2020, 01:31:40 PM
WN3/4/16 (few Evening Journeys)
WN3/6 (Sundays)
WN4/6 (Sundays)
WN5/10 (evening and Sundays)
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: Rob H on March 29, 2020, 02:50:09 PM
AG

5/73 (Monday to Saturday)
31/58 (Monday to Saturday)
5/31 (Sunday)

I stand to be corrected if any of the above are wrong
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 29, 2020, 08:39:12 PM
Quote from: BH2004 on March 29, 2020, 01:31:40 PM
WN3/4/16 (few Evening Journeys)
WN3/6 (Sundays)
WN4/6 (Sundays)
WN5/10 (evening and Sundays)

WN:
27/81 (Monday to Sunday). They interwork with the 11 Monday to Saturday evenings.

32/33 interwork with the 79 Sunday daytime, 11 on Sunday evening.

That was on a typical timetable before the current measures. From tomorrow there will be some different interworkings in place.
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on March 29, 2020, 08:53:42 PM
I suppose while we are on the topic, it might be worth discussing the operational benefits of Interworking and why certain routes are better of interworking as opposed to running to separate routes with their own vehicle requirements etc...

I reckon this would give many members here a better insight into the operations.
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: sonic84 on March 31, 2020, 10:49:43 AM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on March 29, 2020, 08:53:42 PM
I suppose while we are on the topic, it might be worth discussing the operational benefits of Interworking and why certain routes are better of interworking as opposed to running to separate routes with their own vehicle requirements etc...

I reckon this would give many members here a better insight into the operations.

I would find this really interesting. First and Midland Red West used to do a lot of interworking in Kidderminster and Redditch.
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: markcf83 on March 31, 2020, 12:17:45 PM
Town services in Caerphilly interwork between one and another. For instance, a bus working on the A will go onto a trip on route B and vice versa. Buses on the F-which serves the estate I live on-interwork with either the C and D or E depending on the time they are running.
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on March 31, 2020, 12:37:02 PM
Virtually all First Kidderminster services interworked save the 192
293/4 -303/4
2 -3
1- 7 -10
4-5-297
192E-233-294
123/4-295
133 - 22
Virtually rotas save the Centro contracts were interworked
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: Pat on March 31, 2020, 01:00:28 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on March 29, 2020, 08:53:42 PM
I suppose while we are on the topic, it might be worth discussing the operational benefits of Interworking and why certain routes are better of interworking as opposed to running to separate routes with their own vehicle requirements etc...

I reckon this would give many members here a better insight into the operations.
The purpose of interworking is to maximise the use of a driver and bus.  In other words, it is to save money basically.  For example, in Shrewsbury, routes 2 (Shrewsbury-Hawthorne Estate) and 12 (Shrewsbury-Kingswood Estate) interwork.  They both operate an hourly frequency.  The 2 is a 20 minute round trip, so to save a driver sitting around for 40 minutes, they drive the 12 which is a 40 minute round trip.
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: Bus Man K2 on March 31, 2020, 03:02:49 PM
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on March 27, 2020, 01:12:02 PM
Not sure about the 18/19.  I did have a feeling that there was something in Stourbridge that interworked.

Can anybody tell me if it's the 28 shorts that interwork with the 10s? If so how does that work as the 10A is at 5 past with the 28 Halesowen also being at 5 past and the 10C being at 35 with the other 28 (shorts) also being at 35.
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: the trainbasher on March 31, 2020, 03:42:52 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on March 31, 2020, 03:02:49 PM
Can anybody tell me if it's the 28 shorts that interwork with the 10s? If so how does that work as the 10A is at 5 past with the 28 Halesowen also being at 5 past and the 10C being at 35 with the other 28 (shorts) also being at 35.

Pre virus timetable the XX08 28 off Merry Hill goes onto the XX35 10C, which goes onto the XY05 10A then does the XY35 28 short.

The 28 full journeys are standalone
Title: Re: Routes that interwork
Post by: Bus Man K2 on April 03, 2020, 04:29:48 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 31, 2020, 03:42:52 PM
Pre virus timetable the XX08 28 off Merry Hill goes onto the XX35 10C, which goes onto the XY05 10A then does the XY35 28 short.

The 28 full journeys are standalone

Thanks @the trainbasher  or whoever is on here at the moment can you now please tell me if the 5 and 7 Coventry interwork?

Could you also list other Coventry services that interwork please?