I am delighted to be using the X8 tomorrow and look forward to reviewing the new timetable introduced yesterday for the first time and its operations in a constructive manner. I have created a thread aside from the WN thread to ring fence the X8 from other services operated by WN as it is a subject to be raised under Any Other Business at the TfWM Bus Champion's meeting tomorrow for consideration. I will update the forum in due course of the matter raised.
I'm very interested to see how you find the new timetable.
Quote from: mesub on January 27, 2020, 09:20:54 PM
I'm very interested to see how you find the new timetable.
This thread is not intended for me constantly bashing the bus service but for the long terms plans for the X8 and improvements circulated.
Just to confirm so far so good the new timetable on the X8 is working excellently and the bus departed The Market Place at the timetabled departure time of 06.48 This Morning. Full credit to West Midlands Travel Ltd & WN for thier sucessfull operation of the service This Morning.
Review of 06.48 X8 from Market Place:
1. The X8 arrived at The Market Place at 06.48 at the time registered with the OfTC which WMT should be congratulated on.
2. Overall Customer Service is still poor despite wishing the driver Good Morning on boarding & Thank You on alighting the driver sat transfixed like a Tussards dummy and made no attempt to acknowledge the gesture.
3. The overall driving standards were also poor as the drivers skills would be perhaps more suited to the Paris - Dakar Rally than Hagley Rd.
4. Unless someones Colostomy Bag had burst the bus had the strange aroma of poo and Woodbines which is common on the X8.
5. The bus had obviously not be cleaned from service yesterday as I was not only enjoying a copy of today's Metro but yesterdays as well however the McDonalds vouchers are always useful.
6.Conclusions:
The Customer Service side & the standard of the vehicle are still far from Plantnum and this devalues the brand compared with the standards set by PN on the X10 however the bus operated within the parameters of its statutory reqiirements to the OfTC & on this occasion WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LIMITED should be aplauded.
7.Overall Rating
7 out of 10.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 28, 2020, 07:18:09 AM
Just to confirm so far so good the new timetable on the X8 is working excellently and the bus departed The Market Place at the timetabled departure time of 06.48 This Morning. Full credit to West Midlands Travel Ltd & WN for thier sucessfull operation of the service This Morning.
Hallelujah!
Quote from: mesub on January 28, 2020, 08:09:26 AM
Hallelujah!
The new timetable worked well this morning and was I encouraged by its performance compered with previously Hallelujah indeed.
Quote from: karl724223 on January 28, 2020, 10:25:10 AM
I totally agree with every comment made by MW
Can I make a 4H thread?! 😂😂
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 28, 2020, 10:32:18 AM
Can I make a 4H thread?! 😂😂
Let's hope not - is that the service used by the 'Hayley Green' mafioso?! I've heard one of the operators allows its network-wide tickets to be used in Bolton, Lancs where famously a large number of holes once appeared - just a day in one's life I guess.
Anyway, I'm not a mod (thankfully - never could stand Lambrettas and Vespas), but surely the best bet is just to not read the stuff?
It's just @Richard's observations on his daily commute to the West Midlands Constipation Academy's offices and other related (to him) destinations. I just wish he would also post (on the Rotala thread) his experiences on those little blue buses you get on other routes in the Blackheath area - I'm sure they'd like to hear about erroneous crisp bags, old ladies with nowhere to put their shopping bags etc etc owing to the specification of the vehicles, and driving style on the low(ish) floor delivery van-type vehicles.
Quote from: karl724223 on January 28, 2020, 10:31:24 AM
Again I totally agree with this comment
Me too. Did you drive the last built Metrobuses which ran on the 137 (3118-3124 I think)?
I agree with every comment here too, bloody X8.
Quote from: don on January 28, 2020, 11:02:22 AM
Me too. Did you drive the last built Metrobuses which ran on the 137 (3118-3124 I think)?
yes I did at hartshill
@Tony your not by a sheer chance with the RPO MOB checking the tickets on 16/74 are you by Great Hampton Street I am just walking up from your excellent 8 service to The Mayors Palace and thought what a shock it would be to meet as I head to discuss the X8 with WMT , TfWM , WMCA and other stakeholders which is the purpose of this thread nothing to do with either WMT bashing or Blackheath now that would really would make your day wouldn't it!
I am delighted to inform everyone that meeting went excellent the X8 was taken offline in Any Other Business and the major concerns taken onboard by WMT and TfWM and the process of better regulation of the service taken onboard a process of route monitoring will commence and in the long term the service will be improved for the benefit of all stakeholders and just one other point I am exactly the same in my professional life as at today's meetings as I am on the forum no difference.
ROM FEBRUARY 2020:
1. The future structure of bus services were agreed today.
The West Midands Bus Allliance board led by Cllr Kath Hartley and other stakeholders will oversee West Midlands Bus Services
2. The bus operators will form a West Midlands Bus Operators Board and will report directly to the WMBA
3. Further Sub Groups will be formed to oversee:
Safer Partnership Group
Passengers Satisfaction Group
Sub Bus Operators Group
Connections Group
Community & Accessible Group
All the above will report to the WMBA Board
4. The role of the Bus Champions will be changed to work in all the other groups above
5. The Next West Midlands Bus Service run by the WMCA will be the old 410 the 40 with both NXWM & Diamond signing an Enhanced Partnership.
I am sure you will all agree a new decade and a new start for
West Midlands Bus
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 28, 2020, 04:23:50 PM
I am delighted to inform everyone that meeting went excellent the X8 was taken offline in Any Other Business and the major concerns taken onboard by WMT and TfWM and the process of better regulation of the service taken onboard a process of route monitoring will commence and in the long term the service will be improved for the benefit of all stakeholders and just one other point I am exactly the same in my professional life as at today's meetings as I am on the forum no difference.
Don't suppose you could raise the issues of the seriously shit 11A and 11C
6780 - X8
Departed Birmingham exactly on time and this evening West Midlands Travel are providing an excellent service.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 28, 2020, 04:48:44 PM
Don't suppose you could raise the issues of the seriously shit 11A and 11C
And the University routes, in regards to there being no shelter at north Gate.
Currently on 6881 and about 50 people waiting for it at University North Gate, so it's now completly full with standing passengers.
But not even a shelter at North Gate, while one stop in the Ladywood area only called at by a few 10H's a day has a shelter.
All the others I saw where full a short while ago as well.
Quote from: 2206 on January 28, 2020, 05:49:04 PM
And the University routes, in regards to there being no shelter at north Gate.
Currently on 6881 and about 50 people waiting for it at University North Gate, so it's now completly full with standing passengers.
But not even a shelter at North Gate, while one stop in the Ladywood area only called at by a few 10H's a day has a shelter.
All the others I saw where full a short while ago as well.
@Trident 4194 &
@2206 I posted well in advance I was attending meetings all day at the WMCA and would have more than been pleased to raise any issue I cannot do so after the agenda for 2020 has been agreed perhaps some on this forum may start to take me more serious I intend to take the forum more serious anyway after it was agreed it could be made public funny I know the next West Midlands Bus is the 40 &
@Tony confirmed it . This is the only comment I will make on the matter.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 28, 2020, 04:45:53 PM
ROM FEBRUARY 2020:
1. The future structure of bus services were agreed today.
The West Midands Bus Allliance board led by Cllr Kath Hartley and other stakeholders will oversee West Midlands Bus Services
2. The bus operators will form a West Midlands Bus Operators Board and will report directly to the WMBA
3. Further Sub Groups will be formed to oversee:
Safer Partnership Group
Passengers Satisfaction Group
Sub Bus Operators Group
Connections Group
Community & Accessible Group
All the above will report to the WMBA Board
4. The role of the Bus Champions will be changed to work in all the other groups above
5. The Next West Midlands Bus Service run by the WMCA will be the old 410 the 40 with both NXWM & Diamond signing an Enhanced Partnership.
I am sure you will all agree a new decade and a new start for
West Midlands Bus
More talking shops - great !
Quote from: metrocity on January 28, 2020, 06:27:40 PM
More talking shops - great !
Another waste of time and tax payers money, presumably buses will be need to be repainted, lets hope the Alliance is willing to cough up the money for this, why should NX bus and Diamond have to pay.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 28, 2020, 07:40:34 PM
Another waste of time and tax payers money, presumably buses will be need to be repainted, lets hope the Alliance is willing to cough up the money for this, why should NX bus and Diamond have to pay.
There's still no plans to repaint any buses other than those for joint routes.
Quote from: Tony on January 28, 2020, 07:58:14 PM
There's still no plans to repaint any buses other than those for joint routes.
ok
@Tony but who pays for those repaints, after all some buses may have only just been repainted into crimson?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 28, 2020, 08:00:04 PM
ok @Tony but who pays for those repaints, after all some buses may have only just been repainted into crimson?
I choose buses that could do with a repaint!
for the 40 I could have left the existing E200s on there, only spec was must be Euro 6, which WB's E200s are, but by moving 2232-2236 to WB has given those buses which had got a bit untidy a full repaint
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 28, 2020, 04:23:50 PM
I am delighted to inform everyone that meeting went excellent the X8 was taken offline in Any Other Business and the major concerns taken onboard by WMT and TfWM and the process of better regulation of the service taken onboard a process of route monitoring will commence and in the long term the service will be improved for the benefit of all stakeholders and just one other point I am exactly the same in my professional life as at today's meetings as I am on the forum no difference.
I can't see why they wouldn't simply receive this as a group of complaints about one service, which they would then ask the operator to provide a response on. As NXWM (and other organisations) have all the data on operations, punctuality and delays, I would have thought the operator's response would be considered along with the data provided to determine if there was a need for further action. Spending public funds on independent monitoring as a first response, without that, based on one complaint (even from a bus champion) would be a gross waste of public funds.
Well done for reporting your personal observations though.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 28, 2020, 04:23:50 PM
I am delighted to inform everyone that meeting went excellent the X8 was taken offline in Any Other Business and the major concerns taken onboard by WMT and TfWM and the process of better regulation of the service taken onboard a process of route monitoring will commence and in the long term the service will be improved for the benefit of all stakeholders and just one other point I am exactly the same in my professional life as at today's meetings as I am on the forum no difference.
Not quite sure who would take that on board by West Midlands Travel today as it was the annual Management conference at Edgbaston Cricket Ground today, and anyone responsible was there.
Quote from: Tony on January 28, 2020, 08:45:33 PM
Not quite sure who would take that on board by West Midlands Travel today as it was the annual Management conference at Edgbaston Cricket Ground today, and anyone responsible was there.
It was
@Tony your are quite right they were at ECC I did say my
agenda note on the X8 was taken offline didn't I I do not lie and was agreed
OFFLINE and agreement was concluded with all matters with WMT beforehand today was just the official WMCA meeting today . Apologies for the late response I have only just logged in after my lane swimming.
Quote from: karl724223 on January 28, 2020, 11:36:39 AM
yes I did at hartshill
Interesting - I always liked those silver/dark blue trim Metrobus Mk2a buses and especially the last ones. I have read the last ones (which were initially stored) had quality issues so if you drove them new was curious what you thought of them?
Quote from: don on January 29, 2020, 12:20:23 AM
Interesting - I always liked those silver/dark blue trim Metrobus Mk2a buses and especially the last ones. I have read the last ones (which were initially stored) had quality issues so if you drove them new was curious what you thought of them?
I think these final MBs were built either just before or after MCW going into/had gone into administration. IIRC some of the batch weren't delivered to WMT. Those that were I understand had a number of quality issues. Still, it was testament to the WMT engineers who persevered and did some of the remedial work themselves and had them operational.
Quote from: Wumpty on January 29, 2020, 09:27:56 AM
I think these final MBs were built either just before or after MCW going into/had gone into administration. IIRC some of the batch weren't delivered to WMT. Those that were I understand had a number of quality issues. Still, it was testament to the WMT engineers who persevered and did some of the remedial work themselves and had them operational.
There is no need to move this out this thread as the vehicles themselves If I remember correctly were used on the X8 regularly in its previous guise and used by many Aston Villa supporters to who Congratulations are due on reaching Wembley.
Yes I thought it was a bit off topic when I first mentioned it but if
@karl724223 drove them when fairly new I couldn't pass on the opportunity to ask him. They ran (originally from Wolverhampton and the last few, Hartshill) and indeed there was a wrangle over warranty owing to MCWs position at the time that severely delayed their entry into service. In my mind I saw them at the time possibly as fitting replacements for 6351-57, which did the same sort of job from 1976, even if they weren't in reality!!
I have seen a photo on Lady Wulfrun's Flickr site of the inside of one of the final 30 before it entered service with at least one ceiling cove panel adrift, hanging down.
3107 wasn't operated by WMT - it was subject to Optare dismantling it and reassembling as part of its purchase and development of the model as the Spectra - it ended up as part of the Ensignbus local service fleet (they had a batch of F reg ones new).
Oh and definitely - 'Up the Villa' - great stuff.
Quote from: don on January 29, 2020, 10:26:31 AM
Yes I thought it was a bit off topic when I first mentioned it but if @karl724223 drove them when fairly new I couldn't pass on the opportunity to ask him. They ran (originally from Wolverhampton and the last few, Hartshill) and indeed there was a wrangle over warranty owing to MCWs position at the time that severely delayed their entry into service. In my mind I saw them at the time possibly as fitting replacements for 6351-57, which did the same sort of job from 1976, even if they weren't in reality!!
I have seen a photo on Lady Wulfrun's Flickr site of the inside of one of the final 30 before it entered service with at least one ceiling cove panel adrift, hanging down.
3105 wasn't operated by WMT - it was subject to Optare dismantling it and reassembling as part of its purchase and development of the model as the Spectra - it ended up as part of the Ensignbus local service fleet (they had a batch of F reg ones new).
Oh and definitely - 'Up the Villa' - great stuff.
3107 was the one that wasn't operated, but yes, the finish was awful, and they were all stored at Miller Street before acceptance.
Sorry - I've corrected the post - I didn't realise they were stored at Miller St. That was the 'celebrity' where is it vehicle for many years until Ensign bought it. I heard it was actually delivered to WMT but went to Optare after storage - is that correct?
Quote from: don on January 29, 2020, 10:49:40 AM
Sorry - I've corrected the post - I didn't realise they were stored at Miller St. That was the 'celebrity' where is it vehicle for many years until Ensign bought it. I heard it was actually delivered to WMT but went to Optare after storage - is that correct?
I think it did come to Miller Street, but cannot remember for definite. It was never accepted by WMT, so never officially on stock.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 28, 2020, 07:39:02 AM
Review of 06.48 X8 from Market Place:
1. The X8 arrived at The Market Place at 06.48 at the time registered with the OfTC which WMT should be congratulated on.
2. Overall Customer Service is still poor despite wishing the driver Good Morning on boarding & Thank You on alighting the driver sat transfixed like a Tussards dummy and made no attempt to acknowledge the gesture.
3. The overall driving standards were also poor as the drivers skills would be perhaps more suited to the Paris - Dakar Rally than Hagley Rd.
4. Unless someones Colostomy Bag had burst the bus had the strange aroma of poo and Woodbines which is common on the X8.
5. The bus had obviously not be cleaned from service yesterday as I was not only enjoying a copy of today's Metro but yesterdays as well however the McDonalds vouchers are always useful.
6.Conclusions:
The Customer Service side & the standard of the vehicle are still far from Plantnum and this devalues the brand compared with the standards set by PN on the X10 however the bus operated within the parameters of its statutory reqiirements to the OfTC & on this occasion WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LIMITED should be aplauded.
7.Overall Rating
7 out of 10.
To most drivers it's just a job that pays £60 to £80 a duty after tax so where's the incentive to go that extra mile, may be WMCA could look into better pay structure I know it's not there dept, toilet facilities at interchanges, brum still nothing for drivers. I don't speak unless spoken to on Dudley rd the brothers on that road only care about the bus is kept rolling, we know well full people are carrying blades amongst other things . I only care about going home in one piece end of.
The unglazed vehicles were taken to Brownhills and sprayed by a contractor. A photo also appeared in a contemporary issue of Buses Magazine of 3124 and I think 3107, leaving the MCW works in Common Lane on delivery, captioned as the last to leave the factory so I guess it was. Presumably some deal was done with the administrators and/or purchaser re these vehicles, which resulted in 3107 going to Optare and the remainder being accepted by WMT. Interesting and quite unusual circumstances in the bus world though.
The police response to incidents on buses is painfully slow , they don't have resources to deal with people smoking woodbine etc etc. I don't bother I press the anti social and substance button on the innit tablet.
What I find amusing is the passengers that do complain are the ones that have completed there journeys and expect the driver to stop the bus and disrupt every one else's journey , I do make a point of showing the complainers the innit tablet page and I have logged there complaint, the look I get is price less.
Quote from: don on January 28, 2020, 08:41:30 PM
I can't see why they wouldn't simply receive this as a group of complaints about one service, which they would then ask the operator to provide a response on. As NXWM (and other organisations) have all the data on operations, punctuality and delays, I would have thought the operator's response would be considered along with the data provided to determine if there was a need for further action. Spending public funds on independent monitoring as a first response, without that, based on one complaint (even from a bus champion) would be a gross waste of public funds.
Well done for reporting your personal observations though.
All concerns about services are treated equally by NXWM & TfWM when reported and investigated its is not just the X8 that was reported. Any monitoring done by the TfWM is due within a wider scope and not restricted to one specific case, in the case it would be done as regular routine Hagley Rd monitoring of the WNX8 PN9 PN10 the fact the matter has been reported to the operator brings it to its attention any monitoring would not be at additional cost to the council tax payer but part of the monitoring teams routine work which happens 52 weeks a year on corridors. They are an excellent team providing valuable data to the operators and the WMCA.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 28, 2020, 04:45:53 PM
ROM FEBRUARY 2020:
1. The future structure of bus services were agreed today.
The West Midands Bus Allliance board led by Cllr Kath Hartley and other stakeholders will oversee West Midlands Bus Services
2. The bus operators will form a West Midlands Bus Operators Board and will report directly to the WMBA
3. Further Sub Groups will be formed to oversee:
Safer Partnership Group
Passengers Satisfaction Group
Sub Bus Operators Group
Connections Group
Community & Accessible Group
All the above will report to the WMBA Board
4. The role of the Bus Champions will be changed to work in all the other groups above
5. The Next West Midlands Bus Service run by the WMCA will be the old 410 the 40 with both NXWM & Diamond signing an Enhanced Partnership.
I am sure you will all agree a new decade and a new start for
West Midlands Bus
Didn't we have these back in the day I think they were called quangos jobs for Tory councilers wife's .
How do I apply for one these jobs, drinking coffee and biccies and discussing what happened on eastenders I could just about manage that, then rubber stamping the approval to paint bus shelters pink with purple spots.
Quote from: don on January 29, 2020, 11:09:53 AM
The unglazed vehicles were taken to Brownhills and sprayed by a contractor. A photo also appeared in a contemporary issue of Buses Magazine of 3124 and I think 3107, leaving the MCW works in Common Lane on delivery, captioned as the last to leave the factory so I guess it was. Presumably some deal was done with the administrators and/or purchaser re these vehicles, which resulted in 3107 going to Optare and the remainder being accepted by WMT. Interesting and quite unusual circumstances in the bus world though.
I do recall 3123 3124 coming to Hockley garage at some point I was really disappointed the way these drove they weren't the best by a country mile. Hockley scrapped many MK1s that were way superior to drive.
Quote from: don on January 29, 2020, 11:09:53 AM
The unglazed vehicles were taken to Brownhills and sprayed by a contractor. A photo also appeared in a contemporary issue of Buses Magazine of 3124 and I think 3107, leaving the MCW works in Common Lane on delivery, captioned as the last to leave the factory so I guess it was. Presumably some deal was done with the administrators and/or purchaser re these vehicles, which resulted in 3107 going to Optare and the remainder being accepted by WMT. Interesting and quite unusual circumstances in the bus world though.
I,m sure I read that article back in the day all very sad the demise of MCW
Quote from: 2900 on January 29, 2020, 11:22:27 AM
Didn't we have these back in the day I think they were called quangos jobs for Tory councilers wife's .
How do I apply for one these jobs, drinking coffee and biccies and discussing what happened on eastenders I could just about manage that, then rubber stamping the approval to paint bus shelters pink with purple spots.
I can honestly say the days of jobs for the wifes in quangos are long gone as most of them like myself and including Mayor simply do not have them! I can only speak from my own experience and I was invited to join we do get nice coffee and biscuits and you are spot I spent months at meetings discussing the new bus stop plates its hard work but someone has to do it we have now moved on to maps. We are not paid but just receive simple expenses mind you I have no time for Eastenders since they trashed those two Tridents the BBC is the ultimate quango that should be abolished as the current PM is indicating who needs it anyway when you have Now Tv.
Quote from: 2900 on January 29, 2020, 11:12:59 AM
The police response to incidents on buses is painfully slow , they don't have resources to deal with people smoking woodbine etc etc. I don't bother I press the anti social and substance button on the innit tablet.
What I find amusing is the passengers that do complain are the ones that have completed there journeys and expect the driver to stop the bus and disrupt every one else's journey , I do make a point of showing the complainers the innit tablet page and I have logged there complaint, the look I get is price less.
Why passengers are complaining to you is wrong I will raise the matter about Say Something See Something posters at the next meeting I attend as this is preferred method of reporting anti social behaviour on board to TfWM and not to the driver if you are approached by a passenger please refer them to the scheme.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 29, 2020, 11:37:52 AM
I can honestly say the days of jobs for the wifes in quangos are long gone as most of them like myself and including Mayor simply do not have them! I can only speak from my own experience and I was invited to join we do get nice coffee and biscuits and you are spot I spent months at meetings discussing the new bus stop plates its hard work but someone has to do it we have now moved on to maps. We are not paid but just receive simple expenses mind you I have no time for Eastenders since they trashed those two Tridents the BBC is the ultimate quango that should be abolished as the current PM is indicating who needs it anyway when you have Now Tv.
So its voluntary work then that sure does explain a lot.
When the BBC made programmes like Sherlock and Luther I thought it was well worth the licence fee ,Now I would nt mind the licence fee in my back pocket , cancelled sky many moons a go, streaming the way forward.
Quote from: 2900 on January 29, 2020, 11:49:44 AM
So its voluntary work then that sure does explain a lot.
When the BBC made programmes like Sherlock and Luther I thought it was well worth the licence fee ,Now I would nt mind the licence fee in my back pocket , cancelled sky many moons a go, streaming the way forward.
Yes fully agree streaming is the way forward I use Now Tv 100% now.
Things are looking bright, haven't had any passengers yet in Colmore Row asking driver have you seen the X8 anywhere. (still early days).
Quote from: 979 on January 30, 2020, 04:12:22 PM
Things are looking bright, haven't had any passengers yet in Colmore Row asking driver have you seen the X8 anywhere. (still early days).
Excellent news the new timetable appears to be working there seems to be more running time added in the peaks the one I boarded outside 1 Snow Hill it went to Colmore Row then went on a Brum Grand Prix Victory lap via Newhall Street & St Chad's visited 1 Snow Hill a second time then departed Colmore Row smack on time there is a marked improvement to the service on the new timetable for which West Midlands Travel should be congratulated on
@Tony it is good to see such a quality operation on the new timetable.
Genuine question. Is there any difference to a passenger or those obsessed with late running etc between a journey taking 45 minutes when it's timetabled to take 45 minutes, and a journey taking 45 minutes with 35 of those being the timetabled running time and the bus being 10mins late at its destination?
Quote from: Gareth on January 30, 2020, 05:01:11 PM
Genuine question. Is there any difference to a passenger or those obsessed with late running etc between a journey taking 45 minutes when it's timetabled to take 45 minutes, and a journey taking 45 minutes with 35 of those being the timetabled running time and the bus being 10mins late at its destination?
10 mins is acceptable
@Gareth Untill the new weekday timetable which was introduced on Monday the main problem was standing outside Poundland in Blackheath & having 2 or even 3 X8s arriving together this was a regular occurance and clearly not acceptable every day I had texts and emails from people who know me complaining about the X8 & to get something done which is what I have submitted to the WMCA however this week on the new timetable I have not had a single email or text so far in complaint as the Plastic Population of Blackheath would say to Yazz - The Only Way Is Up
Looks like the 8 interworking with the X8 seems to of improved things, for now...
Quote from: Jack on January 30, 2020, 09:51:05 PM
Looks like the 8 interworking with the X8 seems to of improved things, for now...
I currently have no complaints about the X8 or West Midlands Travel Limited
Quote from: Jack on January 30, 2020, 11:16:31 PM
Wonder how long that will last...
I have no complaints at all period about X8 as my complaints were raised to the WMCA and taken offline I no longer have anything to complain about as due process will follow if the current standards are not maintained my job is done
@Jack you and others on the forum will have to accept that I will not interfere with the regulatory body I work with it is now a matter for WMT & TfWM.
6775 - X8 - 13:23 ON TIME
Excellent Service from West Midlands Travel Limited
@Tony
Ever considered just starting a blog?
Quote from: richardjones210368 on February 05, 2020, 05:28:18 PM
Havent a clue what one is never ever using social media before@Dylan4579
It's a website one can make where one posts articles talking about whatever, so in your case 'Andy Street for King' and 'Why the X8 is the best thing since sliced bread'
Quote from: Dylan4579 on February 05, 2020, 05:39:03 PM
It's a website one can make where one posts articles talking about whatever, so in your case 'Andy Street for King' and 'Why the X8 is the best thing since sliced bread'
Oh right you live & learn but surely I cannot see anybody sane being interested about that who in there right minds would want to keep hearing someone constantly blogging about "Andy Street " or the X8 cant see it myself to be honest mind you isnt it Andy Street for Mayor and a much loved Aston Villa supporter for King I am not sure I would go as far as to say the X8 is as good as Mothers Pride
@Dylan4579 either.
Yesterday, I was sat at set of traffic lights in Wolverhampton City Centre, on my way to make a collection from in the city. In front of me at the lights was an X8 and an 8, and on its way out of the city was another X8. I'm sure Mr. Jones would've been delighted at the sight.
Quote from: ellspurs on February 05, 2020, 07:31:36 PM
Yesterday, I was sat at set of traffic lights in Wolverhampton City Centre, on my way to make a collection from in the city. In front of me at the lights was an X8 and an 8, and on its way out of the city was another X8. I'm sure Mr. Jones would've been delighted at the sight.
Oh dear that was most unfortunate when I used the X8 yesterday it was running to the correct timetable departure time as I duly posted
Does the X8 run from WN only? If so then why do see brand new platinums on there sometimes?
Quote from: mesub on February 19, 2020, 09:39:41 PM
Does the X8 run from WN only? If so then why do see brand new platinums on there sometimes?
You don't, only Platinums on the X8 are from the 6760-95 batch
Quote from: mesub on February 19, 2020, 09:39:41 PM
Does the X8 run from WN only? If so then why do see brand new platinums on there sometimes?
Probs seeing 6773/4 and 6789/90 which are unbranded like the new YW /PB ones
Quote from: Jack6101 on February 20, 2020, 05:34:24 AM
Probs seeing 6773/4 and 6789/90 which are unbranded like the new YW /PB ones
That's probably why, thank you.
Quote from: mesub on February 19, 2020, 09:39:41 PM
Does the X8 run from WN only? If so then why do see brand new platinums on there sometimes?
WB certainly did operate a morning peak journey into Birmingham before the timetable change but not sure if thats still the case.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on February 20, 2020, 05:38:33 PM
WB certainly did operate a morning peak journey into Birmingham before the timetable change but not sure if thats still the case.
Yes they do, usually an E400, as expected though.