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Title: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on July 31, 2019, 08:26:48 PM
This is expected to be the opening fleet

http://wmbusphotos.com/NEAT/fleetlist.html
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: paulb1973 on July 31, 2019, 08:40:55 PM
The 'A' before the fleet number reminds me of when WMPTE took-over the municipal fleets in the late 60s/early 70s. Prefixed rather than a suffix this time.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on July 31, 2019, 08:44:23 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on July 31, 2019, 08:40:55 PM
The 'A' before the fleet number reminds me of when WMPTE took-over the municipal fleets in the late 60s/early 70s. Prefixed rather than a suffix this time.

A stands for Accessible, and every vehicle is renumbered, not just having an A stuck in front of the old number
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: B61 ANDREW on August 01, 2019, 05:02:27 PM
Any decision made about fleet livery ??  8)
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on August 01, 2019, 05:25:54 PM
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on August 01, 2019, 05:02:27 PM
Any decision made about fleet livery ??  8)

Yes, 1001 is in the new livery, but is being kept under wraps until the launch
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: 2206 on August 01, 2019, 06:13:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 01, 2019, 05:25:54 PM
Yes, 1001 is in the new livery, but is being kept under wraps until the launch
Why have the ex ATG Solo and E200 been allocated fleetnumbers, 323 - 327 and 729 - 730?
Do NX have any plans to use them at some point?
They'd probably be more suitably sized vehicles for the 10/10H and 36, than what is currently used.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on August 01, 2019, 06:15:43 PM
Quote from: 2206 on August 01, 2019, 06:13:29 PM
Why have the ex ATG Solo and E200 been allocated fleetnumbers, 323 - 327 and 729 - 730?
Do NX have any plans to use them at some point?
They'd probably be more suitably sized vehicles for the 10/10H and 36, than what is currently used.

All assets are allocated fleetnumbers
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Solo1 on August 01, 2019, 08:52:45 PM
When is the launch of the new livery of ring &ride  please
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: B61 ANDREW on August 01, 2019, 09:07:50 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 01, 2019, 05:25:54 PM
Yes, 1001 is in the new livery, but is being kept under wraps until the launch


Thanks for the reply. My thoughts for some reason include the colour green . . . . . ? ! ?  :o
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on August 01, 2019, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: 2206 on August 01, 2019, 06:13:29 PM
Why have the ex ATG Solo and E200 been allocated fleetnumbers, 323 - 327 and 729 - 730?
Do NX have any plans to use them at some point?
They'd probably be more suitably sized vehicles for the 10/10H and 36, than what is currently used.

They're a long way off meeting National Express standards so won't be used for a long time if at all
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: SK68MEV on August 05, 2019, 05:02:49 PM
When is the launch of the new livery that 1001 is currently in
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Wumpty on August 09, 2019, 10:23:31 AM
Bus 1744 (ex igo training bus and former BBC outside broadcast unit) has been added to photo pages.

What's happening with this bus?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on August 09, 2019, 10:28:08 AM
Quote from: Wumpty on August 09, 2019, 10:23:31 AM
Bus 1744 (ex igo training bus and former BBC outside broadcast unit) has been added to photo pages.

What's happening with this bus?

It's been inspected at Miller Street, along with YJ10 EYR which may become 327, to see if it is worth purchasing to add to the NXWM training fleet. At the moment those are still owned by the Administrators of ATG
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: winston on August 09, 2019, 10:31:04 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 09, 2019, 10:28:08 AM
It's been inspected at Miller Street, along with YJ10 EYR which may become 327, to see if it is worth purchasing to add to the NXWM training fleet. At the moment those are still owned by the Administrators of ATG

You've got them all down as already acquired with the July NXWM changes:

323; 324; 325; 326; 327; 729; 730; 800; 1744 aquired with the assetts of ATG. Not in use
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on August 09, 2019, 10:36:10 AM
Quote from: Winston on August 09, 2019, 10:31:04 AM
You've got them all down as already acquired with the July NXWM changes:

323; 324; 325; 326; 327; 729; 730; 800; 1744 aquired with the assetts of ATG. Not in use

They are on NX premises, and as you can see I am able to move them around, by the two being at Miller Street, but they are not formally purchased yet
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Wumpty on August 09, 2019, 10:46:27 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 09, 2019, 10:28:08 AM
It's been inspected at Miller Street, along with YJ10 EYR which may become 327, to see if it is worth purchasing to add to the NXWM training fleet. At the moment those are still owned by the Administrators of ATG

Would NXWM purchase this as it's a non-standard type to the main fleet being East Lancs Myllenium bodied MAN 14.220?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on August 09, 2019, 10:53:07 AM
Quote from: Wumpty on August 09, 2019, 10:46:27 AM
Would NXWM purchase this as it's a non-standard type to the main fleet being East Lancs Myllenium bodied MAN 14.220?

Yes. It's not often a cheap bus comes available with only 75,000 miles on the clock!
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: winston on August 09, 2019, 10:54:26 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 09, 2019, 10:36:10 AM
They are on NX premises, and as you can see I am able to move them around, by the two being at Miller Street, but they are not formally purchased yet

That's what I was getting at, i.e. they aren't purchased yet - where the July fleet changes says 'acquired with the assets of ATG'
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Wumpty on August 09, 2019, 11:15:41 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 09, 2019, 10:53:07 AM
Yes. It's not often a cheap bus comes available with only 75,000 miles on the clock!

Have they indicated a book/sale price for it yet?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on August 09, 2019, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: Winston on August 09, 2019, 10:54:26 AM
That's what I was getting at, i.e. they aren't purchased yet - where the July fleet changes says 'acquired with the assets of ATG'

The 7 white E200s at BC aren't purchased yet either then!
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: winston on August 09, 2019, 11:48:43 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 09, 2019, 11:31:14 AM
The 7 white E200s at BC aren't purchased yet either then!

You tell me!?! We don't have access to the same info you do.

I'd assume being from Dawson's they are leased / rentals.

The fleetlist updates / forum posts are contradicting each other. 
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on August 09, 2019, 12:02:28 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 09, 2019, 11:48:43 AM
You tell me!?! We don't have access to the same info you do.

I'd assume being from Dawson's they are leased / rentals.

The fleetlist updates / forum posts are contradicting each other.

The MMCs are Dawsons, the 83xx are Mistral. Bus enthusiasts generally record who is 'looking after' a vehicle or who's op disc it Carrie's. Not who owns it as that is generally unknown. For instance all Levantes new from 2011 are owned by various banks
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: winston on August 09, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 09, 2019, 12:02:28 PM
The MMCs are Dawsons, the 83xx are Mistral. Bus enthusiasts generally record who is 'looking after' a vehicle or who's op disc it Carrie's. Not who owns it as that is generally unknown. For instance all Levantes new from 2011 are owned by various banks

I know the 8354 etc were new to NX ops from Mistral & leased hence their MX regs. I though the fleet changes were based on NX 'official status'.

I.e. the NXWM July changes have allocated them fleetnumbers & says they're acquired, but then on Facebook your posting the following:

Tony Hunter They have not been purchased yet, but I will be moving some of them for inspections to see if they are worth purchasing...

They're either acquired/leased/rented & taken in to fleet or not - i.e. do NX often allcoate fleet numbers to stuff they've not yet bought / added to fleet yet.....?

Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on August 09, 2019, 05:09:23 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 09, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
I know the 8354 etc were new to NX ops from Mistral & leased hence their MX regs. I though the fleet changes were based on NX 'official status'.

I.e. the NXWM July changes have allocated them fleetnumbers & says they're acquired, but then on Facebook your posting the following:

Tony Hunter They have not been purchased yet, but I will be moving some of them for inspections to see if they are worth purchasing...

They're either acquired/leased/rented & taken in to fleet or not - i.e. do NX often allcoate fleet numbers to stuff they've not yet bought / added to fleet yet.....?

They are on the list of vehicles NX are responsible for from 1/8/19. Several vehicles still on site, mostly 56 & 07 plate Mercs aren't on that list and are returning to Dawson Rentals.

On a different subject A1001 will make its first appearance next Thursday
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Solo1 on August 15, 2019, 08:51:30 AM
Where will the best place to see A1001 in the new livery please thank you
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on August 15, 2019, 08:55:34 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on August 15, 2019, 08:51:30 AM
Where will the best place to see A1001 in the new livery please thank you


It was going to be done inside Aston depot, so you wouldn't see it anyway, but been cancelled again!
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Solo1 on August 15, 2019, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 15, 2019, 08:55:34 AM

It was going to be done inside Aston depot, so you wouldn't see it anyway, but been cancelled again!
ok thank you
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: mesub on September 04, 2019, 03:41:23 PM
Does the new livery contain a darkish pink and white?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on September 04, 2019, 03:50:03 PM
Quote from: mesub on September 04, 2019, 03:41:23 PM
Does the new livery contain a darkish pink and white?

See
http://wmbusphotos.com/NEAT/A1001.html
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Martin on September 27, 2019, 12:01:40 PM
Just seen A680 in Kidderminster bus station. Has anybody got any idea why it was so far out of the area please?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on January 05, 2020, 10:51:38 AM
I have updated the NEAT fleet now to be correct as at 1/1/20
http://wmbusphotos.com/NEAT/fleetlist.html

I can now start doing the same monthly updates as with NXWM from this month
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: kernow dave on January 05, 2020, 04:35:26 PM
Tony

Many thanks for the updates of the all of the fleets, I can imagine the work and time it takes.

Just a little question about the NEAT fleet, is it mainly owned or leased?

Many thanks in anticipation
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on January 05, 2020, 05:07:45 PM
Quote from: kernow dave on January 05, 2020, 04:35:26 PM
Tony

Many thanks for the updates of the all of the fleets, I can imagine the work and time it takes.

Just a little question about the NEAT fleet, is it mainly owned or leased?

Many thanks in anticipation

Owned except 502-520; 702-750 & 1001 upwards which are all Dawson Group vehicles
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: kernow dave on January 05, 2020, 10:22:01 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 05, 2020, 05:07:45 PM
Owned except 502-520; 702-750 & 1001 upwards which are all Dawson Group vehicles

Tony

Many thanks for the prompt reply.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Cedric on January 19, 2020, 02:57:44 PM
seen in kidderminster  bus station yesterday around  midmorning  a  vehicle   unloading a passanger  driver had hi viz jacket  with National express neat on  and vehicle was displaying a    board  showing route 9  any idea what the route is
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: winston on February 19, 2020, 01:19:19 PM
Whatever happened to the NEAT fleet being repainted/rebranded?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: winston on February 22, 2020, 12:13:51 AM
NX have also now acquired the former ATG Aston Depot & HQ:
https://www.insidermedia.com/news/midlands/former-base-of-transport-group-sold
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: winston on April 01, 2020, 01:03:46 PM
Ring & Ride minibuses to be used to ferry NHS staff:
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/health/coronavirus-covid19/2020/04/01/ring-and-ride-buses-to-ferry-nhs-staff-to-hospitals/
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: karl724223 on May 22, 2020, 07:13:48 PM
In company email today neat been awarded more contracts
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: mikestone on May 30, 2020, 06:26:57 PM
The application for an o-licence appeared in N&P 2411 (30/8), repeated in N&P 2425 (06/12) with all the conditions added and finally published as granted in 2443 (10/04).
;
My interpretation is that the licence was granted in December and put in the wrong section - presumably operators are advised direct rather than waiting for it to appear in N&P?
;
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on May 30, 2020, 06:31:56 PM
Quote from: mikestone on May 30, 2020, 06:26:57 PM
The application for an o-licence appeared in N&P 2411 (30/8), repeated in N&P 2425 (06/12) with all the conditions added and finally published as granted in 2443 (10/04).
;
My interpretation is that the licence was granted in December and put in the wrong section - presumably operators are advised direct rather than waiting for it to appear in N&P?
;

It was finally granted on the 31/3/20.
All vehicles are now displaying discs starting on this date
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: mikestone on May 30, 2020, 09:51:17 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: midlandred2003 on July 07, 2020, 06:45:08 PM
Seen today in halesowen KV20LMU
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Mayfield on August 15, 2020, 08:54:12 PM
Not sure if I've missed a post but can you enlighten me on the livery, A1001 is in the 2 tone colour, there is an image of A162 in Walsall paint shop in silver and all new deliveries are white.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: D10 on October 25, 2020, 10:12:57 AM
From next week all manner of contracts for the rural services won across Warwickshire (and taking them into Leicestershire and Oxfordshire too):

PD2026292/20 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Nuneaton to Hinckley via Bramcote, Wolvey

Service number: 220

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/19 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Rugby to Hinckley via Newbold, Pailton, Wolvey

Service number: 210

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/18 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Rugby to Bedworth via Pailton, Withybrook, Shilton

Service number: 213

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/17 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Princethorpe to Leamington via Hunningham, Offchurch

Service number: 538

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/16 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Princethorpe to Rugby via Birdingbury, Leamington Hastings, Dunchurch

Service number: 203

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/15 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Princethorpe to Rugby via Lawford Heath, Long Lawford

Service number: 209

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/14 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Napton to Banbury via Southam, Harbury, Bishops Itchington

Service number: 496

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/13 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Rugby to Nuneaton via Pailton, Monks Kirby, Wolvey

Service number: 241

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/12 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Churchover to Rugby

Service number: 211

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/11 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Appleborough to Long Marston

Service number: U BUS

Service type: Flexible Registration

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/10 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Hockley Heath to Stratford upon Avon

Service number: U BUS

Service type: Flexible Registration

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/9 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Stratford upon Avon to Little Compton

Service number: U BUS

Service type: Flexible Registration

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: ellspurs on October 25, 2020, 10:23:55 AM
Quote from: D10 on October 25, 2020, 10:12:57 AM
From next week all manner of contracts for the rural services won across Warwickshire (and taking them into Leicestershire and Oxfordshire too):

PD2026292/20 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Nuneaton to Hinckley via Bramcote, Wolvey

Service number: 220

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/19 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Rugby to Hinckley via Newbold, Pailton, Wolvey

Service number: 210

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/18 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Rugby to Bedworth via Pailton, Withybrook, Shilton

Service number: 213

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/17 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Princethorpe to Leamington via Hunningham, Offchurch

Service number: 538

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/16 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Princethorpe to Rugby via Birdingbury, Leamington Hastings, Dunchurch

Service number: 203

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/15 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Princethorpe to Rugby via Lawford Heath, Long Lawford

Service number: 209

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/14 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Napton to Banbury via Southam, Harbury, Bishops Itchington

Service number: 496

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/13 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Rugby to Nuneaton via Pailton, Monks Kirby, Wolvey

Service number: 241

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/12 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Churchover to Rugby

Service number: 211

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/11 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Appleborough to Long Marston

Service number: U BUS

Service type: Flexible Registration

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/10 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Hockley Heath to Stratford upon Avon

Service number: U BUS

Service type: Flexible Registration

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/9 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Stratford upon Avon to Little Compton

Service number: U BUS

Service type: Flexible Registration

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

Some of those are A&M flexibus services. Have they became a victim of the circumstances?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: 2206 on October 25, 2020, 11:00:18 AM
Quote from: ellspurs on October 25, 2020, 10:23:55 AM
Some of those are A&M flexibus services. Have they became a victim of the circumstances?
Will they be run with ring and ride vehicles or buses such as the 76X E200 MMC?
As think Flexibus uses Solos on the contracts that they run to Solihull.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on October 25, 2020, 11:43:06 AM
Quote from: D10 on October 25, 2020, 10:12:57 AM
From next week all manner of contracts for the rural services won across Warwickshire (and taking them into Leicestershire and Oxfordshire too):

PD2026292/20 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Nuneaton to Hinckley via Bramcote, Wolvey

Service number: 220

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/19 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Rugby to Hinckley via Newbold, Pailton, Wolvey

Service number: 210

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/18 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Rugby to Bedworth via Pailton, Withybrook, Shilton

Service number: 213

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/17 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Princethorpe to Leamington via Hunningham, Offchurch

Service number: 538

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/16 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Princethorpe to Rugby via Birdingbury, Leamington Hastings, Dunchurch

Service number: 203

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/15 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Princethorpe to Rugby via Lawford Heath, Long Lawford

Service number: 209

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/14 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Napton to Banbury via Southam, Harbury, Bishops Itchington

Service number: 496

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/13 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Rugby to Nuneaton via Pailton, Monks Kirby, Wolvey

Service number: 241

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/12 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Churchover to Rugby

Service number: 211

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/11 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Appleborough to Long Marston

Service number: U BUS

Service type: Flexible Registration

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/10 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Hockley Heath to Stratford upon Avon

Service number: U BUS

Service type: Flexible Registration

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/9 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Stratford upon Avon to Little Compton

Service number: U BUS

Service type: Flexible Registration

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

These will be proper buses, not minibuses. 732 is currently on loan from PN along with 765-8
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: 2206 on October 25, 2020, 12:09:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 25, 2020, 11:43:06 AM
These will be proper buses, not minibuses. 732 is currently on loan from PN along with 765-8
Thanks for the info.

I also notice that the Solihull 513/514/517/519 and other A & M routes are showing that they will be operated by "Coventry Minibuses" on the VOSA site.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: ellspurs on October 25, 2020, 12:37:08 PM
From the Warwickshire council website:

https://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/news/article/1374/improved-ubus-service-changes-to-flexibus-in-stratford-upon-avon-from-26th-october-2020


Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: bususer28 on October 25, 2020, 05:32:09 PM
Quote from: D10 on October 25, 2020, 10:12:57 AM
From next week all manner of contracts for the rural services won across Warwickshire (and taking them into Leicestershire and Oxfordshire too):

PD2026292/20 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Nuneaton to Hinckley via Bramcote, Wolvey

Service number: 220

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/19 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Rugby to Hinckley via Newbold, Pailton, Wolvey

Service number: 210

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/18 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Rugby to Bedworth via Pailton, Withybrook, Shilton

Service number: 213

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/17 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Princethorpe to Leamington via Hunningham, Offchurch

Service number: 538

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/16 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Princethorpe to Rugby via Birdingbury, Leamington Hastings, Dunchurch

Service number: 203

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/15 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Princethorpe to Rugby via Lawford Heath, Long Lawford

Service number: 209

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/14 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Napton to Banbury via Southam, Harbury, Bishops Itchington

Service number: 496

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/13 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Rugby to Nuneaton via Pailton, Monks Kirby, Wolvey

Service number: 241

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/12 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Churchover to Rugby

Service number: 211

Service type: Normal Stopping

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/11 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Appleborough to Long Marston

Service number: U BUS

Service type: Flexible Registration

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/10 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Hockley Heath to Stratford upon Avon

Service number: U BUS

Service type: Flexible Registration

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020

PD2026292/9 Registered (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED

Route: Stratford upon Avon to Little Compton

Service number: U BUS

Service type: Flexible Registration

Effective date: 26 Oct 2020
Is there a reason there being taken on at such short notice? Interesting move- I personally would've expected them to taken on contracts slightly closer to the garage.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on October 25, 2020, 07:52:57 PM
Quote from: bususer28 on October 25, 2020, 05:32:09 PM
Is there a reason there being taken on at such short notice? Interesting move- I personally would've expected them to taken on contracts slightly closer to the garage.

None of them are that far away from garage
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: 2206 on October 25, 2020, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 25, 2020, 07:52:57 PM
None of them are that far away from garage
Are they being run from Aston or somewhere else? And do they still do the BCC Adult Education contracts?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on October 25, 2020, 07:58:11 PM
Quote from: 2206 on October 25, 2020, 07:53:45 PM
Are they being run from Aston or somewhere else? And do they still do the BCC Adult Education contracts?

Unsurprisingly they are being run from their Coventry garage,  why would they run from Aston
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: 2206 on October 25, 2020, 07:59:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 25, 2020, 07:58:11 PM
Unsurprisingly they are being run from their Coventry garage,  why would they run from Aston
Thanks for the info.
Didn't know NEAT had a depot in Coventry as well.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: bususer28 on October 25, 2020, 09:04:31 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 25, 2020, 07:58:11 PM
Unsurprisingly they are being run from their Coventry garage,  why would they run from Aston
Oh right that makes sense.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on October 25, 2020, 10:27:18 PM
Quote from: 2206 on October 25, 2020, 07:59:54 PM
Thanks for the info.
Didn't know NEAT had a depot in Coventry as well.

Waste of time me putting allocations on the fleet list then
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: B61 ANDREW on October 26, 2020, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 25, 2020, 10:27:18 PM
Waste of time me putting allocations on the fleet list then

On a lighter note , I did wonder for a time if Runcorn [Road] was an out-station in Cheshire ?!? :o
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on October 26, 2020, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on October 26, 2020, 02:31:29 PM

On a lighter note , I did wonder for a time if Runcorn [Road] was an out-station in Cheshire ?!? :o

It bafflesd me at first when WMSNT started supplying me with fleet lists several years ago, because they didn't use Road,  the allocation was just shown as Runcorn
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on November 27, 2020, 09:40:16 AM
NEAT have optare Solo xFE demonstrator OP14 ARE on loan, It will be used in service, currently at BC garage for ticket machine fitting
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Gareth on November 27, 2020, 09:55:39 AM
What does the xFE stand for? Is it an electric vehicle?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on November 27, 2020, 10:23:39 AM
Quote from: Gareth on November 27, 2020, 09:55:39 AM
What does the xFE stand for? Is it an electric vehicle?

I've no idea. It isn't electric, and to drive appears just like an SR
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: CL on November 27, 2020, 12:38:23 PM
Found this on the Allison site; looks as though xFE stands for 'Extra Fuel Economy'

https://www.allisontransmission.com/why-allison/xfe
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: the trainbasher on November 27, 2020, 05:16:46 PM
Where can I find the timetables for the NEAT warks routes (thinking of a post lockdown ride on a couple of their routes)
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: 2206 on November 27, 2020, 05:20:47 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 27, 2020, 05:16:46 PM
Where can I find the timetables for the NEAT warks routes (thinking of a post lockdown ride on a couple of their routes)
Warwickshire County Council site.

https://apps.warwickshire.gov.uk/BusTimetable/services/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&search_term=496&button=

https://apps.warwickshire.gov.uk/BusTimetable/services
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Michael Bevan on May 06, 2021, 01:39:32 PM
NEAT are running the "West Midlands On-demand" bus service in coventry using 69 plate Sprinters.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: busfan2847 on May 06, 2021, 02:35:47 PM
What happened to 8354 and 8355 (MX61 BBE/F)?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Sayeed on May 06, 2021, 03:03:29 PM
Quote from: busfan2847 on May 06, 2021, 02:35:47 PM
What happened to 8354 and 8355 (MX61 BBE/F)?

IIRC they were on lease so I believe they were returned.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: CL on May 24, 2021, 02:33:52 PM
Is SK15HBG (8378) with NEAT now? It's just passed me on Great King Street North, devoid of any University of West London branding
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: 2206 on July 09, 2021, 08:13:29 AM
One of their drivers was at Ward End, Fox & Goose this morning asking bus passengers for a "Coneywood Lane, B34 and how he can get there".
And if this is "Bromford Lane, B34", though I think Ward End & Alum Rock are B8 postcodes anyway.
I put it into the map just now and only similar name that comes up is Coneyford Road, Shard End, B34 so presume that's the one & he is lost.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: broma1k on November 23, 2021, 09:05:04 PM
Visited Runcorn Road today & on depot was Merc KV70 RHJ which does not appear on Tonys fleetlist .Is it a NEAT vehicle?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on November 23, 2021, 09:07:08 PM
Quote from: broma1k on November 23, 2021, 09:05:04 PM
Visited Runcorn Road today & on depot was Merc KV70 RHJ which does not appear on Tonys fleetlist .Is it a NEAT vehicle?

Yes, fleetnumber A1090, allocated to Coventry normally
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: broma1k on November 23, 2021, 09:11:36 PM
Thanks for the prompt reply
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on January 07, 2022, 08:00:04 PM
Fleet Summary as at 1/1/22
Aston: 8378, A112/3/20/1/31/7/42/62/4/6/71/86/90, A200/1/11/2/4/9/31/2/45/9/51/3/5/6/8/60/2-4/7/9/74/6/81/3/4/6/92/5/7.
      A304-7/11/3(t)/6, A401/3/4/7/9/11/2/4/5/20/2/4/32/4/5, A501/2/5/8/9/11/3/5/25/30/3/8, A686/9,
      A714/6/8/22/5, A902, A1004/26/31/2/4/58/59/60/2-4/6-70/81/7-9.
Coventry: 766, A223/44/6/8/48, A302/3, A503/27, A1002/5/9/11/2/4/20/1/5/30/3/7/47/55/65/80/90.
Frankley: A116/9/25/9/30/8/41/6/9/57/60/1/72/5/84/7-9/92/4, A206/7/9/18/22/42/79/85/7/9/91/6/9, A300/14(t)/5(t).
      A402/29/31, A504/10/7(t)/8(t)/20/3/32/6/7, A720/3/4, A1001/6/7/10/6-8/22-4/7/8/35/56-8/71/2/4-6.
Runcorn Road: A111/8/23/7/8/47/50/1/5/6/69/70/9/83/5/91/5, A205/8/13/5/6/60/98, A308/9, A506/7/14/6/9/21/2/4/6/8/9/31/4/5,
      A687/90, A717/21/7, A1003/13/5/9/29/43/5/6/51-4/61/77/9
Wednesbury: A051, A114/22/34/6/43/8/67/8/73/4/7/81/98, A203/10/7/25/30/4/5/7/40/1/3/6/59/65/6, A301/10/2
      A416-9/21/3/5-8/30, A512, A688, A715/26, A1008/36/44/9/50/77/82/3.
Reserve: A101/2/3/26/54/93, A226-8/47/68/70/7/80/2/90/3, A408/10/3/33, A588/91/4/6, A603, A904/43/6/7.
Withdrawn: A132/3/44/52/8/9/63/78, A252/4/7/61/71-3/5, A405/6, A913/45.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on March 15, 2022, 09:22:12 AM
755 is in service for the first time today running the Warwickshire contracts. Currently in Rugby on the 213
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: the trainbasher on July 02, 2022, 11:45:02 PM
Will the Warks services that National Express Accessible Transport run (203, 209, 210, 211, 213, 220, 241 & 496) ever track on the likes of bustimes, and what buses do NEAT use on those routes (I know 755 has tracked once or twice on the 220/241, but does anyone know what else they use)?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on July 03, 2022, 08:43:13 AM
QuoteWill the Warks services that National Express Accessible Transport run (203, 209, 210, 211, 213, 220, 241 & 496) ever track on the likes of bustimes, and what buses do NEAT use on those routes (I know 755 has tracked once or twice on the 220/241, but does anyone know what else they use)?
I need to do a fleet update to NEAT, but the regular vehicle is A1090 (WX 71 KHJ) a Mellor bodied Mercedes
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on July 06, 2022, 06:15:11 PM
I have updated the NEAT fleet list on the main site to be correct as at 26/6/22

N.E.A.T. fleetlist (wmbusphotos.com) (http://wmbusphotos.com/NEAT/fleetlist.html)
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Isle of Stroma on July 06, 2022, 07:14:21 PM
QuoteI have updated the NEAT fleet list on the main site to be correct as at 26/6/22

N.E.A.T. fleetlist (wmbusphotos.com) (http://wmbusphotos.com/NEAT/fleetlist.html)

Is A137 still at Aston, as I photographed it in Frankley depot on 24/5?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on July 06, 2022, 07:47:49 PM
QuoteIs A137 still at Aston, as I photographed it in Frankley depot on 24/5?
The fleetlist is correct as at 26th June!
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Isle of Stroma on July 06, 2022, 08:12:38 PM
QuoteThe fleetlist is correct as at 26th June!

Fair enough. Thought I'd mention it as A112 (AN), A137 (AN), A166 (AN), A179 (RR), A216 (RR), A248 (CY), A690 (RR), A946 (CY) were also present & now listed at FY as per your update, leaving A137 as the odd one out.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on December 05, 2022, 08:34:38 PM
I have updated the fleet list to be correct as of today at:-

N.E.A.T. fleetlist (wmbusphotos.com) (http://wmbusphotos.com/NEAT/fleetlist.html)
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Mayfield on October 11, 2023, 04:23:18 PM
Just wondering why NEAT is never mentioned or updated on the forum anymore, is it still part of NX ?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: winston on October 11, 2023, 04:32:40 PM
Quote from: Mayfield on October 11, 2023, 04:23:18 PMJust wondering why NEAT is never mentioned or updated on the forum anymore, is it still part of NX ?
It's still part of NX. no doubt Tony has enough work to do keeping everything else up-to-date. 
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on October 11, 2023, 04:43:15 PM
Quote from: Mayfield on October 11, 2023, 04:23:18 PMJust wondering why NEAT is never mentioned or updated on the forum anymore, is it still part of NX ?
Nothing changes there much!
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Mayfield on October 11, 2023, 06:56:38 PM
That was not meant as a criticism, it's just nobody posts anything 
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on October 19, 2023, 09:32:05 PM
Quote from: Mayfield on October 11, 2023, 04:23:18 PMJust wondering why NEAT is never mentioned or updated on the forum anymore, is it still part of NX ?
The NEAT fleet list is now correct as if today
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Sandy Lane on December 06, 2023, 07:25:49 PM
Quote from: ellspurs on October 25, 2020, 12:37:08 PMFrom the Warwickshire council website:
https://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/news/article/1374/improved-ubus-service-changes-to-flexibus-in-stratford-upon-avon-from-26th-october-2020
Stratford-on-Avon District Council said it had faced losing the service because of a hold-up in agreeing a new contract.
BBC report

BBC News - Stratford-on-Avon on-demand bus service gets reprieve
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-67640598

An on-demand bus service will keep running after a council agreed to find £60,000 from its reserves to fund it.
Stratford-on-Avon District Council said it had faced losing the service because of a hold-up in agreeing a new contract.
UBUS serves people with health or mobility issues and those who lack access to regular buses.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Isle of Stroma on September 24, 2024, 09:51:07 PM
A143 (DX10GZP) is now with AFJ, Nechells.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: BN on September 25, 2024, 10:56:20 AM
Quote from: Isle of Stroma on September 24, 2024, 09:51:07 PMA143 (DX10GZP) is now with AFJ, Nechells.
Think it was approx 35 they bought
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on October 28, 2024, 07:22:26 PM
With the fleet now much small without the Birmingham Council 'home to school' contract I have updated the fleetlist to as of today

N.E.A.T. fleetlist (https://wmbipcouk.ipage.com/NEAT/fleetlist.html)
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: midlandred2003 on October 29, 2024, 11:57:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 28, 2024, 07:22:26 PMWith the fleet now much small without the Birmingham Council 'home to school' contract I have updated the fleetlist to as of today

N.E.A.T. fleetlist (https://wmbipcouk.ipage.com/NEAT/fleetlist.html)
Hi Tony looking at the list I presume the Frankley and Runcorn Rd depots have closed?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on October 29, 2024, 01:16:52 PM
Quote from: midlandred2003 on October 29, 2024, 11:57:34 AMHi Tony looking at the list I presume the Frankley and Runcorn Rd depots have closed?
That's correct, yes
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: B61 ANDREW on October 30, 2024, 10:22:45 AM
A103 looked to be working some sort of [staff?] shuttle service at Stourbridge Town bus station yesterday.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: B61 ANDREW on October 30, 2024, 10:27:21 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2024, 01:16:52 PMThat's correct, yes
Quote from: midlandred2003 on October 29, 2024, 11:57:34 AMHi Tony looking at the list I presume the Frankley and Runcorn Rd depots have closed?
It will be interesting to see if any other operator moves in to these premises.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Mayfield on October 30, 2024, 11:35:03 AM
Seems to be a much reduced fleet, if I'm correct have they lost work or just given it up
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on October 30, 2024, 11:50:27 AM
Quote from: Mayfield on October 30, 2024, 11:35:03 AMSeems to be a much reduced fleet, if I'm correct have they lost work or just given it up
They didn't quote for the Birmingham home to school contract
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Celestial Toymaker on November 01, 2024, 11:41:34 PM
A416 appears to be named PAT, its a rough old heap, seats are too close for anybody over 5 foot, suspension is rock hard, ive been unlucky enough to get this one twice in 3 wks, on the flip side, A1044 is so smooth, very comfortable, inner seats by the window are too close but isle seats have more leg room, dunno why ?
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Mayfield on November 02, 2024, 09:11:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 30, 2024, 11:50:27 AMThey didn't quote for the Birmingham home to school contract
Another poor purchase along with all the coach companies which has since disappeared 
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on November 02, 2024, 09:29:06 AM
Quote from: Mayfield on November 02, 2024, 09:11:34 AMAnother poor purchase along with all the coach companies which has since disappeared
Why another poor purchase? Bought the assetts cheap of the administrator, kept important services running that no one else would and ended up with a nice coach garage close to Digbeth. Just decided the Birmingham Council contract wasn't worth doing again.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Solo1 on November 03, 2024, 05:37:33 AM
Where's the stuff from frankly 
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2024, 01:16:52 PMThat's correct, yes
Quote from: midlandred2003 on October 29, 2024, 11:57:34 AMHi Tony looking at the list I presume the Frankley and Runcorn Rd depots have closed?
Wonder if the staff from there have joined nxwm as drivers & other roles or moved to other depots with neat
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: winston on November 03, 2024, 11:03:15 AM
Quote from: Mayfield on November 02, 2024, 09:11:34 AMAnother poor purchase along with all the coach companies which has since disappeared
You're also conveniently forgetting the impact that Covid had in changing travelling patterns for the likes of The Kings Ferry & Clarkes that were built around their commuter services.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Celestial Toymaker on November 15, 2024, 01:42:10 PM
:lipsrsealed:

Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Tony on November 15, 2024, 02:05:10 PM
Quote from: Celestial Toymaker on November 15, 2024, 01:42:10 PMJust had trouble with Ring & Ride (https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=888.msg263023#msg263023)
xxx
THIS DRIVER NEEDS TO LEARN SOME MANNERS FOR ONE & FOR TWO HE NEEDS TO BE RETRAINED.


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As do you.

Naming and shaming people who cannot reply is not only against forum rules. It is extremely rude.

This forum is not a place for complaints of that nature. The company is.
Title: Re: N.E.A.T.
Post by: Celestial Toymaker on November 15, 2024, 11:13:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2024, 02:05:10 PM(Content of post deleted)

As do you.

Naming and shaming people who cannot reply is not only against forum rules. It is extremely rude.

This forum is not a place for complaints of that nature. The company is.
we did contact the company = post #102 deleted (did not mean to break rules, i dealt with it on my show aswell)